Episode 364: Book Friends Forever and You, Me, and the Writing Journey Podcast crossover

Grace Lin and Alvina Ling are joined by Danielle Render Turmaud, host of the podcast You, Me, and the Writing Journey podcast to do a crossover episode! Danielle is a therapist and a kidlit author, and You, Me, and the Writing Journey meets at the intersection of all thing literary + mental health, so they discuss anxiety and stress in the writing industry. The distinguish between the anxiety and stress involved with the actual writing vs publishing. They talk about the potential joy of the doing/writing, but the stress and anxiety that's introduced once you share your work with others, try to get published, and then actually get published! Danielle talks about how your writing can change, and your relationship to writing can change, once you decide that publishing your writing is your goal. They talk about how publishing brings the market and capitalist element into your art. They also talk about how uncertainty in publishing contributes to anxiety, as well as the personal nature of writing, and the danger of comparison.  Danielle shares a few factors that research has found that are highly likely to contribute to stress: lack of control, suddenness, and ambiguity. They discuss how these three factors are intrinsic in the industry. They also talk about how stress and anxiety manifest in their lives and bodies (like insomnia, rumination, and "stress eating"), and what things they've done to help alleviate their work stress and anxiety. Danielle talks about how to "Feel, release, and accept."   For the Fortune Cookie segment, they each share what they're obsessed with right now. Grace is obsessed with seeing the Dambo Trolls, Alvina talks about her recent TV and book obsessions, and Danielle is obsessed with their new firepit. And they end with what they're grateful for.   Check out the You, Me, and the Writing Journey podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/you-me-and-the-writing-journey-podcast/id1791701688   Follow Danielle and You, Me, and the Writing Journey podcast on Instagram: @Drenderturmaud and @YMWJPodcast   Click here to become a Patreon member: https://www.patreon.com/Bookfriendsforever1   Follow us on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Bookfriendsforever_podcast   Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bookfriendsforever_podcast/