Episode 38: Jamin Goggin & Kyle Strobel

Jen is joined by two first-time guests, Jamin Goggin and Kyle Strobel, to discuss the new re-release of their 2017 bookThe Way of the Dragon or The Way of the Lamb, while also touching on the more general concept of healthy or toxic uses of power in the church in our culture today.Jamin Goggin serves as a pastor at Mission Hills Church. He has been in pastoral ministry for seventeen years. Jamin speaks and writes in the areas of spiritual formation, ministry and theology. He holds two Masters degrees and a PhD in systematic theology. He lives in Southern California with his wife, Kristin, and their four children.Kyle Strobel is a professor of spiritual theology and formation at Talbot School of Theology, Biola University and writes on spiritual formation, theology, and Jonathan Edwards. Kyle lives in Southern California with his wife, Kelli, and their two children, and serves on the preaching team of Redeemer Church. Books & Writing Mentioned in this Episode:If you’d like to order any of the following books, we encourage you to do so from Hearts and Minds Books(An independent bookstore in Dallastown, PA, run by Byron and Beth Borger) The Way of the Dragon or the Way of the Lamb: Searching for Jesus' Path of Power in a Church that Has Abandoned It by Jamin Goggin and Kyle StrobelA Long Obedience in the Same Direction by Eugene PetersonBecoming Elizabeth Elliott by Ellen VaughnLife of St Anthony of Egypt by St AthanasiusNaming the Powers by Walter WinkPractices of Power: Revisiting the Principalities and Powers in the Pauline Letters by Robert MosesSong of Songs by Bernard of ClairvauxThe Elusive Presence by Samuel TerrienGod without Measure by John Webster Moral Reflections on the Book of Job by Gregory the Great Talking Back: A Monastic Handbook for Combating Demons by EvagriusThe Goblet of Fire by J.K. Rowling