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Welcome back to Lakehold Us in the movie. This is Anthony D'Avocchio, and Whitney is always his Dan Quine and Mark Myers. Say hello, gentlemen. Hello, friends.
Hello, everyone. I don't know if you guys have seen those commercials about where it's like people turn into their parents as they get older. Once there. And I just realized there's this week, a week end.
I realized there's a couple of things I do that is definitely because I am now an older man. So I went to, I think you do this as well. And I went to the movies at like the 8 a.m. show in this weekend.
And it was just a bunch of me and guys, my age are older, just kind of looking at each other for YouTube, you know, like holding coffees with the torch that fit the thing going. Yes, you're going to tell me to get away. And then I went right from there to the giant supermarket, also filled with a bunch of people. It's just like, yeah, I'm up.
All the cool people are still sleeping. But, you know, we are now in our 40s and, you know, it's much more practical to get a lot of this stuff out of the way early in the morning. I'm not ashamed of it. I quite enjoy making sure I have everything done by like 11 in the morning so I can have the rest of my day.
And I feel like that is a very old man thing to aspire to on a weekend. I don't know. I mean, I've been a proponent of going to the movies as early as possible for years, if not an entire decade by yourself. It's best because I think there was several Star Wars movies that I went to by myself at a clock in the morning.
The cup of coffee in my hand. The kids don't say shit because they don't care. Yeah. It's my first time doing that.
I was like, and said, you can always bring a coffee in. It's like, I'm going to be shocked right by the person. Nobody even scammed my ticket. It's like thunderdome at eight o'clock in the morning.
They're like, yeah, I mean, set the popcorn machines up yet. And then you're out. You're out by 10 30. Yeah.
Well, I've been something for spider mics. It's like two and a half hours. I so we were talking offline. I had the day off today and I thought I had a moment of like, Oh, maybe, you know what?
I'm going to be out today and where I'm going to be is going to be right next to movie theater. So maybe I'll, you know, after I'm done, what I need to do, I'll go to movies and I saw two hours and 23 minutes. Like that's like the pro because I was probably not going to get to the, I was looking at it. I was like, I was like, the earliest one I'd be able to do would have been like noon.
It's like, well, then that's two 30. Yeah. And that's basically my entire day. You know, that's not early enough for me.
So like, you know what? Fuck it. I'll walk you by my time elsewhere. So I haven't seen Spider-Man, but a long story short.
I don't feel like I feel like I made the right decision. I don't know. I don't know what the Rotten Tomatoes score is. I'm sure it's a fine film that I will forget about as soon as I walk out of it.
I really liked it, but it could also because I have a biased to Spider-Man. But I feel like my caveat, maybe they're these are kind of opposites, but I feel like for the really long movie, I either need it to be the first thing I do in the day or the last thing I do in the day. So either an 8 a.m. or like a 9 p.m.
You know, sort of like, either this is the last thing I do and I go to bed or it's the first thing I do when I wake up like anything in the middle just feels like this goes for anything, not just movies. This is like, you know, running errands or getting my haircut or something. It's gotta be, I don't want to waste my entire day or make it in the middle of the day. You know, when I could be getting other things done.
The key to errands is do as many as you can during the work week. You gotta get a haircut. That's your lunch time. It's a lunch time activity.
Go out get a haircut. You know, it doesn't take whatever doesn't take up your precious free time on the weekend because it is fleeting and we're all going to die soon. Yeah, exactly. So you don't want to spend that 30 minutes or less in a barber chair on a Saturday afternoon if you don't need to.
Yeah, after anything after 12 noon has to be me time or hanging out with friends or family time. I make a dime, right? That's why I shit on company time. Oh, yeah, me working in an office.
It's the only time I can do something like that. Can't sneak out for a haircut. You can't, you can't just say I'm taking a lunch and then go get a haircut. I could, but I don't know exactly where in like within any kind of distance.
I could definitely guarantee to be back in an hour from where I am in the city. That's the reason why I was looking to stroll in, you know, I could probably now I could probably get a job. Yeah. How many softball games do you leave early for?
Surely. Surely we're going to be like, yeah, you could get a haircut market. It's going to be fine. This one time.
I only mentioned haircut because it seems like what I mean is a non recreational activity. That's why I put that in that list. I normally get my hair cut store in a week. Afterward, you know, like when I, before I even get home, because once I get home, I don't want to do anything, which is why when I do periodically go into the gym recently, it's like right from work, you know, change of work, go right in.
Yeah, my schedule has changed since the kid was born. So like the movie situation is now I'm going during the week at like seven, seven p.m. onward. You know, I'll do a Monday, Monday, seven o'clock screening is like my, that's my bread and butter.
I'm going to go to the gym. I was going early and now I'm going even earlier, which is the thing. Yeah, I used to go so I could do it at seven, but he wakes up at seven 30s. I can't possibly do it.
So now I'm going for six. It's fun. The other fun part is just realizing that I have changed like, okay, yeah, I haven't done that in a while, that I love to do all this. And yet I can barely get ahold of my sister before noon on the weekends, like to even like, she's like, oh, I was sleeping.
And I'm like, in my head, I've got an older. I don't know how, and then she complains about, you know, not getting things done. And I'm like, I don't know why you can't put those two things together. Last time I slept on noon, jeez.
Oh, I don't sleep past eight or nine anymore. And that's mostly because game ball cat here thinks I'm dead. If I'm not up, I am in my face, like me, I'll win. I do have dogs that would revolt if I slept on noon.
Yeah. Yeah. Same thing here. But, you know, in terms of my cat is petrified and I am not alive.
If I haven't moved as a certain time, but yeah, yeah, we're older. Dan, you got anything to say about this? No. I'm envious of you guys going to the movies.
I can't go anywhere. Damn. My kid is a nut job. I'm a n flushed robot.
I want to thank him. He's a fan. He's literally insane. You've seen him, you know what it's like.
He's a fine boy. Yeah. No, he was he's a toddler. But he cannot be handled by one person.
He needs to be tag teamed constantly. Handicam match. Every day. Yeah.
And he comes out on top every time. Well, the one always comes out on top, right? Yeah, it actually ends with a bigger. He's and he's a literal babyface.
So got to got to learn how to do the hot tags sometimes get a little bit. My, so, you know, Aunt made the joke about the company time. My, my time in the bathroom is like just retreating, essentially. It's like I'm waving the white flag.
I'm going to go to the bathroom for a few minutes and I could hear him screaming downstairs. And like, I think I'll hang out for another minute or two. Sounds like everything is well in hand down there. You got to get noise canceling headphones outside.
Yeah, it's bathroom noise canceling headphones. It's just your little world. We got lucky when he was one, he was on the move, but not nearly as much. So we could pawn him off on a family member a little more easily.
Now it's who boy. Yeah, it's like planting B-Day to get someone to watch him. And, you know, a movie wise, it's taking a hit. We have to pick and choose what we do.
Because yeah, weekends are precious to us as well. But now everything is kind of more focused around him. So where can we take him now? So a lot of corner farm or animal sanctuaries because he likes looking at animals.
So that's that's kind of where we're at right now. I've always said, I understand my prickly. So you have several privileges. It's I'm white.
It's unfair. Yeah. You're a middle-aged white guy with no kids. It's too much.
You have too many privileges. You should give them up. You got to give one up. You want to adopt them up in the middle age anymore?
Because that's it. I think you want to be a real. You have to knock up somebody. Yeah.
That's just fine. I don't know at this point. Dan's going to be like those horror stories to hear about mothers in laws with that with me and any lady that I have. Just going to be like, oh man, you seem to have lost your condoms there, Mark.
You know, I dropped my Magnum condom. Oh man, I guess you got to take the chance. No, you got to pull the bank statement, let the bank statement fall out of your wallet. Oh my god, you you have that much money?
But yeah, I can't. Like I said, I can't imagine, you know, being in either of your guy's position and also Tom's, you know. You want to try? You want to sound like he's not looking for babysitters.
I believe we said I will. I you guys, it tested out. I've always said, let me know. That's true.
You have said that. Yeah, I have. You're too eager with it. So that makes me think, does like are you going to like try to do something in my kid?
You're going to try to brainwash him. I mean, and we're just going to watch what flyers highlights. I don't know what you mean by brainwashing. Exactly.
I don't even care about hockey enough for that to be a factor. I keep threatening Jen that if I'm at jokingly threatening, obviously, that, you know, I'm glad to you. You made it to joke that if I ever babysit for you guys, when you guys come home, it's just going to be like, I'm just going to have. It's just going to be just going to be sitting there watching, you know, the flyers being pointed out.
It's going to be a point that Jen is going to be so exhausted. So I don't give a fuck anymore, Mark. I was just going to say that is more than a fair agreement. You can watch however many Philadelphia sports team as you wish.
Like, Mark, you want to take the games about your season tickets? You win. You now watch him. That's the deal.
You can take sixers games. Doesn't matter. Oh, man. Everyone that's a year.
I'm not. I'm not in that game. I'm maybe single and childless, but not that much for you. One of the spindle and sixer tickets.
No, neither do I. No, I'm very. I'm in the same boat with sleep because he's up around seven. So I don't get to sleep past seven, 30.
My son did sleep till nine o'clock. He had a really big. He had a very long Friday at Saturday. And then it caught up with him on Sunday.
Is that like one of those things where either you were being turned into how my cat is and going, Oh, God, we got to check on him. I was getting concerning. Yeah, you got the monitor on him. Yeah, you see he's breathing.
Like, but like I managed to get out of the out of the bedroom with the dogs all the downstairs and fed them. And then I like sat there and I watched TV for like an hour and a half because I was up at seven, 30 because the dogs were up at seven, 30. But the dogs make as much noise as they possibly can between that small hallway downstairs. It's like it's like a fucking college band walking through the house fucking feet and their click-clack nails.
So we're murder them every time they make a noise. Everything they can to be as loud as possible. Yeah, it's a stretch. Ape, scratch, stretch again, shake again.
I was like, it's it's literally dodging a minefield. Just living life, right? It's all these obstacles that we put in our way. Yes, we have no one to blame but ourselves.
Exactly. I was like, I had that conversation with Lynn recently. I was just like, we have too many cats. The next one goes.
We're not replacing them. I've I've thought about that as well. I'm going to need just some alone time, I think. I was like, two cats is not.
And she's like, yes, two cats is agreed. All right. Well, besides all that and besides Dan, maybe going on suicide watched with all the things he said recently, we did watch a movie before we talked about the movie that we watched this week. I want to talk about our Patreon, patreon.com slash ticktampod because that's where all the fun is happening because if you subscribe for just a dollar, not only do you get exclusive episodes every month, we just did a full-length episode on the obsession film from this year.
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Right. This week's movie was my pick. And I picked a film that I want to say either red letter media or out of this getting made covered like years ago. And that's the first time I ever heard of it.
Um, and then I saw there was Amazon Prime. So I said, you know what, we haven't watched this movie yet. It looks weird enough. So I'm going to put this on the schedule.
That movie is the passion project from the other guy from Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure. I'm talking of course of Alex Winter and the film from 1993 called Freaked. Freaked from 1993 is directed by Tom Stern and Alex Winter and it stars. Brooke Shield, Alex Winter, William Sather, Michael Stoyov, Morgan Fairchild, Alex Zuckerman, Megan Ward, Randy Quaid, John Hawks, Mr.
T, Keanu Reeves, 90 B score of 6.4, Rotten Tomatoes score of 61% budget, 11 million dollars box office, 30,773 dollars plot part island of Dr. Morro part, nothing but trouble part, Looney Tunes freaked tells the story of Vane actor, Kukugan, who sells the soul to be the spokesperson of a mega megacorporation and their dangerous chemical that is wreaking havoc on the island of Santa flon on his trip to the remote island. He runs into a man's scientist that turns regular people into four monsters in order to have them perform in a side show. Dan, I want to know where you're coming from with Freaked.
So let us know. I'm glad you emphasized John Hawks because I had also written that down John Hawks, Exclamation Point. And it was him. Right.
But that it was it made me laugh because again, you know, shut up the patreon. We specifically talked about him a few days ago and how he is usually very good in what little parts he plays. I do not remember him in this movie, even though I watched it. I don't know what he played in this.
So I can't say that he made this movie any better. So you don't know what you have no idea which character he's played. I don't do you. I do.
OK, who is the talking cow? No, really cowboy. See, it's cowboy. OK, so blink and you use blink and you miss it shows up at the end.
So I think it's really just him at the end. OK, I don't know if he's the voice because the voice is unrecognized, but there is the brief scene at the end of the Brook Shield is talk show where they all come out at the end. Yeah, and it's him at the very least in that scene. It's him.
But to credit him, he's in the credits, I'm assuming he's the person in the soup as well. The voice. Yeah. Yeah.
We're on the subject. Do you want to take a stab at who Keanu is? OK, right? Yeah, that was easy because he sounds like Keanu just doing a weird, I guess, he's trying to do a Mexican accent.
Yeah, it's like a Hispanic accent. Yeah. I also had written down reminds me of nothing but trouble. Yeah, I'd seen this movie when I was younger.
This was something I looked forward to. I didn't see it in theaters. I saw it on TV and I just remember being so excited. Monsters, cool gore effects, stuff kind of thought.
That's what I thought it was going to be. And I remember I remembered so very little of this. But as I was watching it, like, oh, yeah, the Jamaican or the rest of the foreign eyeballs Bobcat gold weight as a puppet man. So this thing started to come back and I remembered as a kid, like, oh, this movie sucks.
And as I was watching it, I thought this movie sucks. I do not like this movie. It's insufferable. I was I couldn't wait for this to end, to be honest.
Alex Winter looks and acts like Rob Schneider in this. So that was a major turn off if you know me. Yeah. And you can see why Alex Winter probably never made it as a leading man.
No. And I always said I give credit to directors, actors who swing for the fences. Right. I'd rather you swing for the fences than be boring.
They did that here. There was some parts that I enjoyed. The monster makeup is cool. I read a lot of the budget went just towards that, just towards the makeup and the effects.
So that's cool. I enjoyed that, especially like the worm, the bookworm or worm man. Basically, yeah, they built out an entire worm suit for this person, the nose boy, cowboy. And at the end, when Alex Winter and the gremlin turn into like trolls, huge trolls, that kind of stuff I enjoy looking at.
But this movie has no heart. There's nothing in it where I would say it resembles a meaningful story. I get that it's supposed to be, you know, Alex Winter is this vain, chauvinistic actor. I got the end, you know, he realizes looks aren't everything.
I never got that sense of a story arc from him. It was basically just one wacky thing after the other. And it was almost like UHF in a way, but UHF actually had a story that made somewhat some kind of sense. The humor was almost along the lines of neighbors at times with another Dan Acroy movie, and it definitely felt like an MTV generation movie where it was just anarchy for the sake of anarchy.
Yeah, I just think that this was aimed at younger kids at that time, but there was a ton of cursing in this movie. So I don't know who would bring their kids to this movie, apparently nobody because it only made 30 grand. So yeah, kind of a big swing in a mess here for me. Mark, we're coming from.
So the weird thing I hadn't looked at the list of movies we're watching for a little bit, and then I listened to a podcast and they had mentioned they got quite a bit of other podcasts besides this one. Not that I'm aware of. It wasn't a movie podcast, it was a video game podcast. So something that we're the only movie podcast.
I thought so. Got that. So they got a question about one of the guys on their talks about vinegar syndrome. A bunch.
So he had met the guys that you have any recommendations and freaked was one of the three movies that he had mentioned on there. The other two we've watched later this year as part of my pick, but I was surprised to see this on the list. It was one of those like you live in a simulation sort of moments where I had never heard of this movie before here on that podcast and I opened up our doc to put it down as my next choice and see that Ant had already chosen it, which makes sense because he is in with the vinegar syndrome criteria collection stuff. A good bunch.
I don't know. Syrian collection. No, I know. I know you're going to release DVDs and stuff with it.
That's what you're trying to say. Yeah, yeah, you're hip. You're not old over here. So I was excited to watch it just because it popped out of nowhere and I just went to see if it was as it's dumb and weird as it sounded from the way this guy described it on the podcast.
And the first thing I realized is I don't think I knew what actual alt winter looks like because when he pops up in this movie, I was like, I had to go to IMDb and be like, oh, OK, that is alt winter. I think I only had like bill in my head the way he looks in that movie. So seeing him in this sort of young Rob Schneider sort of to him through me off a bit, this movie very much felt like like we had mentioned, like how Dan Ackroy would get a lot of actors from the 80s and stuff into his weird passion project movies and it's felt like I was with her calling in his friends from Hollywood to like do some do do this movie with him this idea. And I think for the most part, what this movie was in his head when he wrote it or whatever, there's probably drugs involved, I would assume by the subject matter.
But the I don't know if he had like a plot, like, you know, everything seems to happen just to be like a reference or a quick like laugh line or something. Nothing seems to like there's no real through line on anything. Like I don't know if he actually learns a lesson or even the friend learns a lesson, which is always fun to see the older brother from Blossom show up on things in this time period. But the was he in something else we've watched?
I feel like we brought him up before. I know a lot of people can talk. Yeah. Yeah.
Because every time where you think he's starting to like get it and do something, he makes a joke like my biggest example is when they're saying the plan on how to get into the lab, like have the worm burrow and all that. And you think he's going to come up with the plan, but then everyone else around some comes up with him and his contribution would have been to send away for C monkey and have them break into the lab or whatever. And it just seems like it was referential humor like we had talked about in the happy days thing about the Jack Benny stuff. There's a lot of jokes in here that I understood in the sense of I knew the things and people they were talking about in the joke, but some of the jokes, I don't get why the joke, you know, like why it would be funny.
Like I know what C monkeys are. I don't know why that joke is supposed to be funny outside of the fact that he'd be mailing away for something that would take weeks to do, you know, and a lot of that stuff didn't hit. And like the the rest of our eyeballs and just everything just seemed to be it's like I always said, it's the thing that always feels like gold when you're writing it or pitching it to somebody like a co-writer or something. And then you guys write down all the scenes and you have fun making little jokes and the little things that then forget to make an actual story within it like growth and all that stuff that you learn in writing class.
And yeah, there's not even like there's no reason for the girl to eventually fall in love with him who I knew looks familiar and saw she was an Encino man. And it was just like I don't like I some of the freaks were fun ideas to do. I don't know if any of them were sort of semi or maybe really offensive. I didn't think deep enough to know if the giant nose was like, you know, some kind of like Jewish reference or something like if they went that like joke offensive with it and but just the just the idea overall of it like it makes no sense what was actually going on in that you're starting off with one half of the movie where he's with this corporation and they went on the Hawk this product that's obviously toxic and you know bad, you know, for the environment and then they run into the they decide to turn off the road to this freak show and then that's where most of the movie takes place and there's no real reason why any of this is connected at all outside of the use of the toxic rock.
The only good joke that I did get a chuckle out which was just one of those long long plays of a joke is that the company's called ESS. Everything was it? Everything except shoes. Everything except shoes.
And then at the end when they melt because of the toxic goo when they form together, they form into a giant shoe monster and I'm like, all right, that's pretty good. It doesn't hit as hard because none of the jokes really land. But I'm like, all right, I see that that was the that was the joke for the movie was that was going to be the punchline there. And yeah, I don't know the it just very much.
I think the final thing I'll say, I think Dan hit it on the head. And I didn't even think about it until we mentioned it that this had a lot of liquid television sort of look to it and buy to it was the MTV block of weird cartoons and all that. I think Friends Snippy was originally on there and Aeon Flux and stuff like that for the Gen Xers and Zilenials that are listening to this podcast. And that's very much what it felt like.
It felt like a this was the humor of the day, a sort of thing that either we weren't meant to get now or it was probably terrible overall, I mean, it made no money, but it just very much felt like a guy was making references to a time period and none of his references or jokes really carried through for the most part. And it wasn't even like a fun movie to watch. I think the one the one fun twist in it was that the antidote was the macaroons that they stole from the lab and then the worm coming out at the end and going, you know, you can't kill a man for not like a macaroons or, you know, because he still weren't. But yeah, the overall, I just wish there was some kind of through line at all to make this not just seem like a slog.
OK, are you guys ready to be mad? You're a love this movie. Yeah, I mean, obviously I didn't love it. I won't go that far, but I did not hate it.
I think this in terms of the jokes that land, this movie is batting like a 220, but there's so many jokes that there's enough that gets me through it. Is this movie playing moneyball? You could say that sure. You guys are 100 percent right.
This feels like MTV. It does not feel like we television mark your thinking of MTV's oddities, including the head and the max. That's what this feels like. I knew it was some they're both they're both very similar, but this feels like MTV's oddities with the head specific.
The head was all about free. Got the giant head among other things. Yeah, I I liked how unserious this movie was. And the point where it got me where I was like, yeah, this is just this is just like throw these jokes against the wall and see what sticks was the Macaroons situation where it was just they almost flawlessly pulled together the plan, like they tunnel through to get like this serum and then he just he botches it at the end.
He fumbles it literally, but then but then they're like, but then I like, but then I stole these Macaroons and everybody celebrates and they're like, if any that comes out of nowhere and just they're happy, even though their plan was fucked up from just, you know, butter fingers, everybody's happy because they're just have macaroons. They're like, all right, I'm with this. It's not a particularly funny joke, but you know, I enjoy its spirit in a way. The one joke that disappointed me is just because of casting the Bob Villa joke would be so good if it was Bob Villa, like without Bob Villa, you take that joke right out of it because there's just some guy in person in Bob Villa, but that's a good joke.
If Bob, if they, you know, maybe not spent a million dollars to give Keanu Reeves a cameo, give it to Bob Villa because that's good. That's a solid joke. That's a UHF kind of joke and we're out gets Bob Villa. The milkman situation made me laugh.
Yeah, that's the one where he turns around and they're all dressed as the girl. All of his life was pretty. And then Randy Quay brings out the window. He's like, that's a lot of milkman on one route.
That's why they're fighting. That was pretty good. It's like just an absurd situation that I enjoyed. I like to the rest of our eyes, which apparently one of the actors that plays one of the eyes is John M.
Chiu, who if you don't know who he is by his name, he is the director of Crazy Rich Asians in the Heights and Wicked and Wicked for Good. Wow. He's awesome. He got his start as which one, which, which I because there's two of them.
The left. Oh, no, he's not the eye. He's giant Stewie Monster. I apologize.
That's even weirder, honestly. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
That doesn't shy away from the point that I made about that. This just felt like Alex Winter called in all of his Hollywood friends. Definitely. I mean, I don't know who.
Yeah. I mean, I don't know who this guy was. I'm sure he was nobody at that point, but I mean, obviously, William Sadler and Keanu Reeves straight off a bogus journey. I don't know what his connection with shields was.
I'm sure there's something there and the data at some point. Morgan Fairchild, I don't think has ever not cashed a check. Yeah. So yeah, the the turmoil that that the Stewie character goes through, we just keep calling the troll kind of made me laugh the entire time.
Troll, knock around one. Yeah. The troll. Yeah.
Real quick. There was a joke. There's a gag in the movie with Stewie and they almost nailed it. And it's when he's going to the newspapers to talk about how the how Alex Winter has been kidnapped and the chemical was being used, right?
And every paper throws him out the door through the glass. Yeah. So he finally gets to a newspaper that will run his story. All right.
Well, yeah, the people need to know. Do you need to know the way out? He knows sir, I can throw myself out and he throws himself out the door. I was like, oh, it would have been so much funnier if they threw him out again, even after accepting his story.
Yeah. But that's what this movie was to me. It was going to the well too many times. Yeah.
Yeah. The that was the National Inquirer or like one of those like what the final one was that did lead to a pretty solid joke later when he had the eye shows off and they asked what took them so long and they just kept flipping through pages of different things in the National Inquire that they had to go solve. And everybody goes, oh, yeah, of course, we should go there first. I mean, the house, the trip, what or whatever.
I love the Paul Lynn joke. All again, it would have been better if Paul was still alive if he just showed up as the center square. Right. Yeah.
There was just there was just something about this movie that just I was like, it's it's not particularly funny. Like I said, the jokes more often than not don't end, but there's so many of them. Like I can't I don't dwell on the fact that that the previous joke didn't land because there's another one coming right behind it, you know, I'm sure that one didn't land either. But the next one, I it's Alex Winter is also he's not supposed to be likable in any sense of the imagination.
Yeah. But you don't even you don't even pretend to care about him. There's nothing redeeming about him for the most part. So how are you as an audience supposed to care that he gets turned into a monster?
I don't think you're supposed to care. I think this is an incredibly unserious movie. It's like the best almost I don't think you're supposed to learn any lessons. The ending felt so much to me, like the end of Wayne's world.
Where it's Rob Lowe. You know, I learned one thing is that a great great looks, nice car and money can get get you anywhere in this world almost the top. Top. Or whatever it was.
But yeah, that's what that ending reminded me of. Like learning a lesson here. I think you I think you don't care so much about Alexander's character is mainly because his friend is so much worse than him. So, you know, he, you know, it doesn't you don't notice how awful of a person out, you know, that that character's supposed to be like former child.
I think Ernie's his buddy's name or something like that. Yeah. Yeah. He's gone back from from the jump.
It's like sexually harassing people on play. This is the first time we're meeting him. Yeah. Yeah.
On the airplane. And not a good joke. When we see like the stock footage of the airplane landing on it just explodes. Oh, I wasn't.
That was an hour. Which is a Simpsons joke. I was just going to say it's the it's a strategy land gag. Oh, glad it was us.
You got it. I'm not tired. I'm not tired at all. Which is a Simpsons joke.
Yeah. But I laughed at that. Yeah. Who was was it was Christian Slater to piss them off, right?
In the car when she goes. She says, yeah, and after like Christian slate, you know, he's like, I can act circles around Christian Slater. I wonder if there was an actual beef between Alex winter and Christian Slater or something along those lines. Maybe I don't know.
I mean, there are self references references throughout this like the movie on the plane was return to Blue Lagoon. Obviously, Blue Lagoon was the movie that Brooke Shields was in. Yeah. She's like, I heard that one sucked.
That's right. Yeah. The one thing I like on her show was when they were doing the joke about why he was in shadow the whole time. He was like, we finally fixed the light over him.
Turned on now. Yeah. That was pretty decent. He's his normal self because the entire time I was when we were watching the opening and I was like, OK, they're not showing it.
And then like 20 minutes of the movie gets changed, transformed and we see him. I was like, well, all right, well, that kind of ruins that reveal. So they kind of got me on that one. Yeah.
It's funny because you know, you guys talk about like, oh, this kind of work, this kind of work, but none of it seems to actually work in like the sum of its parts. You know what I mean? Where we're naming two or three or four. Oh, this was kind of funny.
That was kind of funny, but this movie was almost like death by a thousand cuts in carnet. You perhaps. No, for everybody. Like me.
I would say I would say it's greater than the sum of its parts because because again, this movie is maybe it's even under the Mendoza line in terms of jokes, the land, but I like Mr. T in here doing a. The story was great. It was great.
Because he's even blocked into which I like I can see get ready with me ticktocks from Mr. T. Apparently he had like a meltdown on set and left with three days left to shoot. So even Mr.
T was he pitted Alex Winter and left. Pity this fool. He paid that fool. I figured as more that he just got scared that he liked what he was doing.
And it went against his Christian faith. It was just getting too real. I got to run. I don't like make up.
I will. I will say one of the things I remember as a kid that horrified me was watching the sock puppet man get absolutely lit up by the rest of our eyes that scared the hell out of me because they it's like Robocop right the edge. I'm saying the same thing just blowing him away. And even even as a 39 year old man, this is uncomfortable to see.
Because it's Bob Keggall with getting back to death. Bob Keggall wait, but just is a sock puppet hand. It's a sock puppet. The one thing I did enjoy about the end of that death is when they're holding the hand in their hands as it was his head in the blood like they punctured a blood capsule in the hand to make it break like you know, bleeding from his mouth.
Yeah, talking. But yeah, like I said, I'm not letting you guys trick me. That was good. No, it wasn't good.
I didn't to follow up on the point. I didn't hate it. I just was like, oh, this is like mindless sort of, you know, I didn't think it was good. There were like somebody jokes landed like like he said, there are two out of 10 maybe they were no real like home run.
So it wasn't even like a three. They weren't even a three outcomes joke writers in this. But yeah, I just wish I think the only thing that would apply to my interest a little bit more is if there was some kind of just a mini through line just like that he he learned something or, you know, something changed in the character, you know, right. You could have kept playing the jokes, but you know, it just seems like the only thing to change was that that company got exposed and the thing is no longer allowed to be produced or whatever.
And yeah, that was it. That was the whole like conclusion of the story. And the whole Brook Shield TV show thing. It's also a flashback to a thing.
I don't know if many people this generation would even know about, you know, the Phil Donahue, Oprah Winfrey, you know, those kind of daytime talk shows that would feel foreign to show a younger generation. I don't know. Kelly Clarkson has that show, right? I think she's very more.
I'm true, very more because those are two holding it down now. I feel like I feel like those are just late night TV shows on in the daytime. More than what the Phil Donahue stuff was. Yeah, probably your product, right?
I think I'm right. Yeah. I see what you mean on that one. Yeah.
Don't forget the Queen. That's right. I remember her. You know, and you know, it just that little twist joke wasn't great.
You know, there's like there's so many like good setups to jokes that don't land. Like I'm thinking of like he's doing the monologue from Richard III and there's like the Oxford professor in the in the audience that says like for basically you idiots were going to put some close captioning on or some subtitles on so you can understand what he's saying. And they don't really like accomplish that joke because it's it's stupid. The subtitles are stupid.
Like I'm glad I'm not played. Like, oh, that's what you did with that joke. Like, boom. And it also didn't quite well because I had the actual subtitles on it.
Right. They got their subtitles sometimes covered up. Yeah. So it was like, you could have done something better with that.
Like it's a good setup and failure and the execution on that. But I don't know this movie for like I will never watch this again. Don't get me wrong. I'm not going to be drinking one night.
Oh, let's watch Freaked. Love this film. But I didn't hate my time with it. I enjoyed it.
Spirit. Like we said, this feels 90s MTV. I mean, I think what accomplishes that is the open credits, obviously very MTV with the music, obviously. But I can't say a dugget, but I didn't hate it.
I was looking on Letterbox. It's got a 3.6 out of 5. And this is the kids are wrong. You guys are wrong.
I'm sorry. Is this 6.4 and IMDb? It's almost a 7 close to a 7. This is what was I think like Neighbors was another movie that we that we covered.
And everyone that reviewed it was kind of the same old thing. Like, oh, you don't understand this kind of comedic genius that they're coming out with. You're not sophisticated enough. I refuse to believe that there is a higher purpose or a higher meaning to freak where the movie is in it's a diamond in the rough.
It's not. It's really not. I don't think there is a higher meaning to this. I think it is what it is and you like it.
You know, but it's got 61 percent. It's it's fresh. It's fresh on Ron tomatoes. I don't understand.
23 reviews, but still. Yeah, yeah, it counts. Listen, it's still something. It's just I don't know.
I not that I need everyone to see my point of view, need to feel validated, but they'll do that. Well, maybe just maybe just maybe just a little. No, I just think that it's one of it's one of those things where I don't is there like a mass psychosis where just because it's it's different, automatically makes it better. I don't think this is one of those scenarios.
I I hear you. But I can't help but find this sort of not unenjoyable. OK, I can't even say enjoyable, but it's not unenjoyable. Yeah, I couldn't would you what it's not charming.
It's not. Oh, no, it's funny. Yeah, it's grotesque. It's again, doesn't land most of its jokes.
It's the spirit in which this this movie envelopes really. Yes. Yeah. I and again, we might watch a movie that is very similar and I'll say I hate this fucking movie.
So I don't think there's like a whole reason for anything specific. I just I think there's in the 90s, I guess, it was just the it feels like the parody of films of its contemporary, you know, like not not the. Not the reference films of like the 2000s, but like a loaded weapons of the world. Robin Hood men and tights, I'm saying this is as good as any of these films because I think Robin Hood men and tights is one of the most underrated films the comedies ever, but just the the joke every 10 seconds, like aspect of it.
It kind of worked on me. I think this is a good cautionary tale of those types of movies, right? The joke every 10 seconds. It's spray and pray exactly.
And it shows you that they're the levels, right? Because you get the Zuckerman Brothers type, right? A gag every few seconds, which 90 percent of those do land and then you get freaked where two out of 10, like you guys were saying, right? It's batting 200.
So like, yeah, two out of 10 may hit. So it just shows you the levels of how difficult it is to be consistently funny. I I feel like a lot of the things could for some reason, I feel like a bunch of like skits they put together, like when you write a skit from what I remember writing this, you know, you have the premise, you know, the set up punch line of the entire skit in there. And I feel like a lot of the jokes and segments have that premise going through it.
But like we said, very few times, do they actually hit the punch line of the joke of the skin of that section of movie? And I think that's that's where I can see where ants on that line where, yeah, everything leading up to, you know, the final punch line, you know, it was enjoyable. And you know, I'm never going to watch it again. You know, I had a fun time with it because, you know, they tried so many jokes.
And I feel like this is like the ultimate of trying to measure a bunch of ideas together and not knowing how to make them, you know, work as a hour, 20 minute consecutive movie. And nothing is mercifully short. Yeah. 80 minutes is pretty sweet.
Yeah. As we're talking about Spider-Man and Off-Podcast talking about the fact of the Masters of the Universe movie was two hours and 14 minutes completely unnecessary. Yeah. At least the marble thing you can go.
It's nothing marble. Right. You know, you know, that's a hundred minute move. Yeah.
That was, yeah, that was the good part about it. I think if it goes a little bit longer, I think it does start to wear out. It's welcome. Oh, easily.
I think the I think it cuts off at just the right point because that final scene was a little like dragging a little bit, you know, even for me who found it like, like, like, like, like media or like mid as, as, you know, you would say as the kids would say. So I think if it goes on any longer, I think I started getting tired of the whole, you know, freak show place with Randy Gray. No, Randy, Randy. Yeah.
Yeah. That whole thing started to wear. It's welcome. And I'm glad it ended how it ended.
But the yeah, yeah. Like I said, I think I think I feel like as I usually do with some of these movies, I feel like I fall in the middle on it. And I think you two are on the other end of it in terms of that far end, like you love it. But like you enjoyed it a little bit more and Dan hated it.
So I think I think Dan and I are going to push each other in opposite directions to more. I'm going to love it. The more I love it, the more he's going to. Yeah, exactly.
Yeah. I'm not like I said, I'm not going to let you gaslight me on this one. Because that happens sometimes. I'm like, I'm not sure how I feel about this.
And then I listen to you guys talk it over. OK, I can see where they're coming from. Not a chance on this one. This is this production designer on this was director of Twilight, Catherine Hardwick.