Episode 383 - Dead Heat (1988)

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Welcome back to the ACOLS Movie. This is Anthony Del Vecchio with me. It's always his Dan Aquino and Mark Myers. Say hello, gentlemen.

Hello, friends. Hello, everyone. Yeah, the only thing really I've been thinking about this week is, and I might have brought this up multiple times in the past, but you know, with a lot of things about the passage of time. But next weekend, like after, like for next week's thing, my oldest niece goes back to college for her sophomore year.

And it just, it just amazes me. Like I hung out with her a little bit last weekend, and I was talking to a coworker today. And it's just weird how I was away from her for so long, and then she comes back and hang out with her for a while. And you just see in just a year how much it means to go away to college, you know, in terms of maturity and just overall, you know, not being so much of a, you know, the child or kid in the family anymore.

Like she started getting in on all the, you know, sort of more, you know, joking around with the, like with her sister about, you know, the slang she's using and just stuff like that instead of being all cringe about it. She like the idea of making her sister sort of be in the way. And I'm just like, oh, okay. Like, you know, this is, she's starting to grow into, you know, the person you can, you know, start not having to couch conversations with and all that.

And I don't know, you guys have a bunch of years, obviously, before that happens, but I just had that realization when I hung out with her last week, it was just, you know, just one year. I'm like, I wonder, am I in question you guys more so is, I wonder if, I don't remember feeling that personally after one year college, like a way of college. I don't know if how it felt with you guys, but it was just a weird, weird time thing that I've been, I've been thinking about this week as she gets ready to go back. For me, I wasn't super close with my sisters when I was in college.

We didn't become closer till we all kind of graduated. So I don't know if, I don't know if they felt that way. Like, oh, you know, it's exciting and I didn't really have anyone to talk to about it like that. So I kind of missed out on it.

I don't have anything. Okay. Yeah, the last week since the last podcast has been really stressful at work. So I didn't really have time to think and I just, you know, just literally a conversation I had with her like two days ago, which made me think about this, you know, and just, it was just, it was just a weird thing.

And I guess it's the, I guess it's the time where you take like another, like leap in your, like growing up age, like, I always feel there's like a certain ages and time periods where it's just, you take like that really dramatic, you know, advancement as a human and, you know, mentally, physically all that. And I don't know if it was like this first pube, right? Yeah. That's the first one.

But essentially, what am I always telling us that in excruciating detail? But yeah, it was just, yeah, I just had that feeling where we just, I guess this is the most that I, you know, it's been all summer, but I haven't seen her much because she's working a lot and she was hosting clinics as a, you know, because she's a college softball player, so people are paying to learn from her. And so I haven't really seen her much. And I guess it's that I haven't, you know, used to be around her like every week or seen her every few days.

And I guess maybe it's that time of, you know, a way where you notice the change the most. And I don't know, it's just something on my mind that I've been thinking about the last couple of days that I thought I'd bring up here because we're in middle of August and nothing really crazy happens. I could have went on another story about, you know, you know, the beach because I've been a few hours on the beach, but I only did that because I didn't want to sit in my house alone, essentially after a tough week at work. But Mark, I feel like, I feel like you're like apologizing.

And you don't need to apologize just because you're not getting back in return from us because we're not particularly good improv partners on this situation, this conversation you had. I hope she's getting that NIL money as a college softball player. She's going to start next year. She's their, not, I don't know if it's actually NIL, but she's, they're making her like an ambassador representative of the school, like athletic department for some thing or businesses around running.

You just start hitting her up for money. Okay. You're a local Mark of five spot. I did.

I don't know if I mentioned this on the podcast because it happened back around time at the All Star Game. Or, or no, invite her out to dinner and then ask her to pay. You got this, right? Oh, you mean, seriously?

I've been doing that to the youngest needs for a while. I think I did it when you put her up. You can pay for your chilies. No, no, no, no.

Like when the check comes, I go, you got it. You know, I'll pay what I've been doing that joke for a while, the youngest one. But yeah, but I've had the conversation money wise with her where she decided like we were having a discussion and I kind of told her to do it without telling her to do it that she like what kinds of tickets last minute that were like 200 bucks. And I'm just kind of like, you already been leaning in that direction, you know, I'm just like, and I explained to times I did it.

I'm just like, if you got it and just do it. I mean, you don't be dead. She's having credit cards or anything. You know, thank God.

I mean, she'll have student loans, but, you know, just like, Hey, if you got it from all that work, you've been doing just, you know, like the bullet, you know, sort of thing. I said, but don't feel like I was like the one thing you want to make sure growing up money is like, don't feel like you have to do it. Like, you know, be able to have that little bit of restraint or else you'll find yourself in a lot of debt. Mark, you're feeling guilty about that?

She can come pay for some of my stuff with that hard earned money. I'm okay with that. Yeah, no, not feeling bad about it. I just said it adds to what I was also talking about at the beginning of this.

It's just like the maturity of having that conversation, you know, so it's going to be on the fix on the Fritz. Yeah, listen, I can't she's like, we're looking to do the floors. Does she want to help me pay for the floors? That'd be very nice.

Funny part is that, funny part is that all of them for the most part, a large majority of the money will pass the last start till next summer. I'm sure she's got enough to help me re rock my driveway. Probably, which I can't think of a bigger waste of money. One of the first real world things she got was when she realized how much things cost, like when they would do like the house parties for alcohol and stuff like that.

Mark, you know that she's not going to work on her on her on this podcast, Mark. Sure. Listen to those. That would be a surveillance fan.

I'm sure that clicking ever so often this. Oh, no. Oh, no. But yeah, she realized how expensive certain things were.

And you mean sodas. Certain specialty sodas like like an Ollie pop is compared to just having a Coke, you know, like now we're now we're mixing metaphors, Mark. You can't say Coke now Pepsi. But also, you know, it's not so is extremely expensive.

Yeah, my comparison was, you know, going for the high end, you know, sort of specialty drink. Okay. Okay. I wouldn't know.

I wouldn't know. I wouldn't know. That's what people are saying. I surprisingly, cocaine has gotten cheaper and Coca Cola keeps going up.

Yeah, crazy how that works. Yeah. Somebody just, I think somebody just got confused and for years people just call the cooks and they just assumed it was, there's a soda. Then they start right.

I don't know where that jokes going. Can I push is a button for the cocaine prices. Yeah. I got to put through that.

I don't know where this is going. Well, I mean, I'm glad you just abandoned ship. I wanted to say that I, you know, growing up, I was a product of dare. Like that that shit worked on me.

And I'm kicking myself to this day, but I'm so upset that I never attended any parties that had the option of having that or they never had it around because as a baseball player, most of the athletes were just beer. That was it. No one ever, no one ever went for the high end stuff. Yeah.

It's kind of disappointing. I didn't get to really truly live out my college experience, you know, you don't even get the chance to say that. Exactly. I want to do at least be presented.

That is, that is the one thing I'm glad about with her is that she's an athlete. So I know I don't think any of that stuff will present itself. I don't have to worry about historically athletes have never gotten cocaine addictions outside of the 86 nets. Obviously.

That's true. I'm trying to think like, yeah, I guess. Yeah. I don't.

You know how a great professional career was at Len Bias perfectly clean because he never did drugs became the greatest basketball player of all time. Don't look it up. All right. Well, speaking of cocaine, speaking of.

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Like I said, this week was Mark's pick. So Mark, tell us a movie we've watched this week. Yeah, so this movie was part of the three movies that I heard about on a video game podcast because we're the only movie podcast. And the first one that I actually watched last week.

I'm in freak. And I put the third one later on in a month. What choice number two they talked about was the 1988 movie, Dead Heat starring Joe Piscopo and treat William. And I mainly went on the, you know, just how they've subscribed on the podcast and just knowing that there's a chance with a Joe Pisco performance.

It could be, you know, something fun. But yeah, just in my quick and dirty thoughts in the beginning here. It's a competent movie. I had a good time with parts of it.

And but overall, I didn't, I wouldn't hate to have to watch it again or anything like that. It's very, very procedural, very, except for some of the little minor twists to it. But it very much felt like a cop, buddy cop movie from that decade. So Dead Heat from 1998 was directed by Mark Goldblatt, sorry, treat Williams, Joe Piscopo, Lindsey Frost, Darren McGavin, Vincent Price, Claire, Kirk Connell, Keeluke, Robert Piccardo, Mel Stewart, Professor Toru Tanaka, and Martha Quinn, 90 B.

So we're 6.1, Ron Tamayo score 11%, budget $5 million, box office $3.5 million. Movie, a movie about the only good type of cop. Dan, I don't know where you're coming from with this movie. Dead Heat, 1988.

Well, okay. Now I feel like the pressure is on for some reason. I have, I've seen the thumbnail for this many of times, but it seemed Joe Piscopo made me not ever want to watch this movie. And what's your history with Joe Piscopo?

How much have you seen of him? Have you seen any of him? Just Saturday Night Live. And you know, I've seen his Frank Sinatra impression and all that with Eddie Murphy.

I think that's the only thing I've ever seen of Joe Piscopo is that the Ebony and I have a resketch. Yeah. He was on the show for three years, I think. And he was like the star, right?

He was like, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

The down years. Yeah. Yeah. That was like everybody left.

Yeah. It was like, I know him from that sketch and like the ever so often joke at his expense on the Simpsons. Yes. And I think like Norm McDonald would poke fun at him sometimes when he did weekend update.

Yeah. But that's the extent of Joe Piscopo for for Dan Aquino. But yeah, I agree with Mark. I think this is a competent movie.

It has some really good makeup, has some cool gore effects in it. A lot of blood I was not expecting. So yeah, this movie was a I wouldn't say I loved it, but this was more up my alley. It had some interesting monster effects as well.

The beginning of this movie is fucking awesome. I it reminded me of Predator 2, like the shoot out at the beginning of Predator 2. Yeah. And that makes sense because Mark Goldblatt was the editor for a lot of action movie Terminator 1 and 2.

I think Starship Troopers Predator 2. And he did some work on Robocop I saw. And as soon as I read all that, like, oh, it clicked. Yeah, I could see this guy definitely knowing how to shoot an action scene.

But after the beginning action scene, it kind of it kind of goes downhill a little bit like Mark said it turns more into a procedural. But there's some pretty funny bits in this, not because of Joe Piscopo. I'm going to get out in front of that. He was OK.

I thought he'd be worse. But I enjoyed treat Williams in this. I can't say I'm a huge treat Williams fan. You mean the good dad from WB?

I guess I don't know him from a ton of stuff either. He's fine. I don't really care one way or the other. I was in thing Darren McAvon, the dad from a Christmas story.

I thought that was fun. I have one note in my notes about treat Williams and it's just I haven't liked treat Williams in deep rising. You don't see him too often, but he's been in a ton of things at the same time. I don't know how that works.

I honestly thought we were about to watch the two treat Williams movies in a row because looking ahead, we have the substitute on the schedule. But he's in the substitute three. Right. Yeah.

The first one is Tom Fairinger. I believe. Yeah. Yeah.

So I just want to I was so blown away by the beginning. I love the beginning. And one of the reasons why I really enjoyed it is there's a big shoot out at a jewelry heist and there's like a ton of cops there and treat Williams and Joe Pisco were there. And the robbers are just mowing down cops.

It's like 10 to 15 cops are just brutally shot down and treat Williams and Joe Pisco were like trading one liners at each other. Yeah. They're just cutting it up while their buddies are dying. I didn't think today was going to start this way early for this.

Meanwhile, dudes are just getting shot in the head. Yeah. That one head shot. 360 no scope head shot with an oozy.

So the cop blows one dude away with a shotgun. And then the other guy turns around no scopes boom right between the eyes. They're just yucking it up behind the other cars like a chief can I borrow your car? Meanwhile the dude next to him just gets like mowed down and another note I had I started to notice everybody in this movie has oozy.

Yeah. Literally every single bad guy. It was like standard issue oozy. This is getting ridiculous.

There has to be another like machine kind of gun right? I'd imagine. That was the popular thing at the time. So AK 47's weren't a thing yet.

No, those were communist. Well, these are bad guys. They're billionaires. I don't want to jump ahead too far.

But I will say. So with everything that goes on in this movie, the reanimating dead corpses and this, that other thing, the most unrealistic part of this movie is at the end when Vincent Price has to try to sell billionaires on living forever. And billionaires are just like, Oh, no, who wants to live forever? Yeah, we've got we've got at least a half dozen that are really their only plan in life is to try and live forever.

Yeah. There's literally a man who gave himself a rare illness to try to live forever. Yeah. We're gonna get that assholes name.

He injects himself with baby blood or something. I don't know. But I guess it was Vincent Price explaining why we need to tax billionaires. And they're all like, Oh, I don't know about this.

It's in price. This doesn't sound. This doesn't sound right. Like these motherfuckers would be climbing over each other.

Yeah, a little forever. All right. Mark. Yeah.

Yeah. So one percent agree, as I said earlier, I was surprised by how good this movie was in terms of being just very formulaic, like for the most part. Like they have the opening scene where they yelled at by the captain. The whole we're going to take your badges that you know that whole stick from from the 80s and just the very much so as a lot of copycat writers and stuff to very much the lethal weapon, you know, you know, vibe of the buddy cop.

Definitely a lot of influence there. But I just my one of my favorite parts of the early section of the movie is when I go down and see the corner and then she like realizes what's going on. What is like not freaked out by it. Like is this very like common scientific about it.

Like, Oh, I don't forget a body. These guys were definitely here. You know, that's an autopsy scar and not like, Holy shit, they're raising dead people. Right.

Sort of reaction to it. But I guess I guess you had to have that reaction because she needs to be like part of the story and have, you know, you need to sell the most obvious, you know, reveal because only because the the main medical examiner being in on it, he serves no other purpose besides being the third act in this movie because only does it just deny that people are being raised from the dead. I'm like, the lady got protests too much. And yeah, but the whole the whole dynamic.

I I was more like there was treat Williams is so good in this movie, in my opinion, because there was a part in the middle of the movie towards getting into the final stretch where I was like, just him. I was actively rooting for him to figure out until with forever as the dead cop. And I'm like, Oh, man, he's so such a good guy. Like, this is, you know, James, this happened.

And then the way the movie and I know that's the way the movie has to end. That's just that's just a perfect ending. You know, like they destroyed the raising from the dead and those two will go off and die together, you know, as they probably should. And yeah, but he got me hooked on his character so much that I was rooting for him to survive in there.

And that's just a testament to, you know, his performance and that's I think the only twist I didn't see coming and maybe I should have and I feel bad for not seeing it was the one girl, the PR for the pharmaceutical company. Yeah, being being dead. I thought it was going to be some other kind of twist that she was like the one running it and the doctor and the coroner was like her, her lackey or something, you know, but that was that was a I wish they would have, you know, maybe had it. Maybe it was a good I was just think I wanted that the reveal to like linger a little longer than I did.

Like she reveals it and it instantly starts to crumble and die. And, you know, we're not entirely sure why that happened. That was really good until the end. Talk.

You got to get out of that shot. Everything else was good in that scene. And yeah, that was that was great. The I do the in this time period a lot of the, you know, well, they still do it nowadays, you know, because they can't and all that.

But that there was a there was a story reason for why they were just saying fuck it all protocol because tree women's characters like I'm dead, like, was when they're going to kill me, you know, sort of, you know, why they're like doing searches without warrants and you know, just beating up people like at the in Chinatown when they go in there, you know, to progress the story. Yeah, yeah, not like no, like no idea of like, should we wait for backup and treatment, no, I got like 10 hours, right? No, this is going to matter. And it helps the story by them not, you know, having any other will you need to come back, you know, sort of moments with with people.

A lot of the set pieces were great. The thing inside the meat market or whatever that was supposed to be. Yeah, it was like a Chinese market, right? Yeah, which is just just a really well done idea of a of a, you know, revealing like where all this really came from.

And I'm having to fight off all those animals. That had the best creature effects like the cow, the cow carcass coming out of the closet or whatever. Yeah, genuinely freaked me out. Yeah.

And all the, the only one that made the two things that made no sense to me in that scene, not that, you know, obviously raising from the dead, the main premises, you know, I think was the fact that I think like pieces of the chickens were coming alive. Like they had like wings and drumsticks and they were moving like they were like sentient and I think a whiver rolled down and jumped in tree Williams's face. I didn't know what that was. I didn't know what that was.

I don't know. Like it just seems like I just said a whiver because I don't know what else it would have been because it wasn't a piece of meat, you know, sure. And that that's the only, you know, they would have had a chicken or a duck jump in his face. Oh, that makes sense because despite the fact that it's, you know, skinned and cooked already, it's still a full animal.

Very much like a return of the living dead style rules where each individual body part is a living organism in a way. It can't be killed. Yeah. Right.

And yeah, and just, and just overall the, even even like the way they figure things out, it's like pretty good. Like, there's not a whole lot of jumping to, like, you know, they find the list at the, like, they find out through her to see, she sold the drugs to him. They go to the Asian market, the whole scene happens. They find a piece of paper in the Asian market that has a bunch of initials and dates.

They put that together that, you know, this is people in death dates that they go look it up. Find out who those people are, put, you know, and then, you know, start putting all the pieces together there. And then, you know, then the, the, the clue inside the lamp. Just which was his, like, security blanket in case if something happened to him, you know, the Vincent Price's character to, to, you know, point at the corner.

And I knew what those numbers were immediately just because, like, what's called context clues in the sense that, you know, we saw the license, like, I already had my suspicions about the corner, then they showed the corner's license plate. And then I quickly grabbed on that it was seven letters, seven numbers on there, which, you know, some people go, I might have a phone number and I'm like, no, there's seven letters and body doc. That's going to be like a word to the number puzzle thing, you know, there's enough Resident Evil in my brain that I was like, that's what that's going to be. And yeah, it was just, I think, I'll just leave with this.

I think my favorite thing about the whole movie was just the effect of like that they could take as many bullets as possible. Like, there's the moment when they're fighting the two people in Randy's apartment. And then when he just becomes like this super soldier and just walking through the gunfire. The one guy who's also dead and they stand at point blank and just unload into each other.

That's so good. That was my favorite part. It's such a good choice to show it that way. And yeah, yeah.

And I did love some of the writing, like the Pizz Coppos stuff, you don't know if it was badly written or an ad lib, like some of his like joke punch lines were not great and didn't land. But there was a lot of good like little writing moments, like just from like his, him realizing, you know, all the stuff that happened when he's dead. Like when he was under the pool and it pops up and I do all that stuff and then Pizz Coppos says, you know, you're under like five minutes. And you know, three women goes, oh, yeah, I guess I was like, like, okay, I guess that's something I can do now.

You know, like, right, sort of just a realization in like, you know, because his brain is still on, you know, I wonder if he's like physically like holding his breath, you know, under them, you know, you didn't have to. But yeah, that was good. And then there was another reaction in the car about the Boston Marathon, which I thought was pretty good. He's like, oh, I got on the Boston Marathon.

He's like, well, you can't do that. You're dead. You're like, well, they checked. They're pretty strict nowadays.

But like just it was good banter when it felt like written banter. And then anytime it seemed like Pizz Coppos went off script. It didn't work, or, you know, he was trying to do his shtick at the time. But overall, yeah, it's a great if you like buddy cops, it can definitely be in your mid tier, you know, ones that you can pop on or you can show a friend.

Hey, you know, have you seen this one, you know, sort of thing and not be so jutting them to like a terrible movie? Overall, I think they make a good choice. It makes me kind of either excited or nervous about the third one I chose, because that one has a very interesting title, which could make it go either way. So I am excited.

As for me. I never watched this before. And as I mentioned, Joe Piscopo, I only know him from that one sketch. I like the premise of this more than I like the movie.

I didn't dislike them. I enjoyed it. But Joe Piscopo made me like it less quite a bit. It just, he kind of puts a button on every single scene with a really bad joke.

And it just makes me have a bad taste in my mouth from scene to scene. I don't like either of these male leads. I would have, I feel like, and you put, honestly, I feel like if this movie is a straight up, more serious film, but with zombies, I think it's better because the comedy just does not work for me at all. But there are funds that there is fun stuff to this.

The shootouts, the shootouts that you guys had already mentioned are a lot of fun, the opening scene that you know when the fact that everyone's dead and they're just like shooting the shit out of each other. Lots of fun. I thought the twist was good too with the with the girl, the PR girl. I don't know if I was paying close enough attention to try and track that.

But yeah. I guess I didn't really go over the plot because I just made that one line joke about the only good cop being a dead cop as the plot. That really fell flat. But the plot is basically like these cops are investigating these guys that were going to shoot out that just wouldn't die.

They took like a ton of bullets, didn't die. It turns out there's a company that is making a serum that brings people back to life for a certain amount of time specifically to. Rob these like make robberies, I think. Yeah, it's not specified fully.

Yeah. I think what they're doing is he's using them sort of like guinea pigs like like raising them from the dead and maybe testing to see how long proof of concept sort of thing. Yeah, like how long do they last? You know, I was going to mention what's the end game here because if they only live for 24 hours though.

Sorry. Sorry. No, I was going to say, you know, because treat William is told he has 24 hours. Yeah.

Unless they're just looking to perfect this process. Is that what it is? Yeah. So it's a sort of a two line throw away that they have.

It's never really explained your voice that they show more than tell it. Is that there is it has probably has to do with that drug that was prominent and really didn't circle back too too much that there was a way to keep him alive forever. Like that clock that he had, I think it was only 12 hours to be honest. She even said she was wrong about that.

When there's a second time serious he was instead of four hours he gave him 12 hours. Yeah. And then when he saw him the other time she was like, I might be a little wrong. You may only have three hours now.

You know, the second time, you know, or the last time he see her. And you know, essentially, I think that's what he was selling them one Vincent Price was that they had the machine that brings people back to life. But I also have a way to make it last forever. You know, moment there.

And my favorite moment from that sequence was when he's yelling at the one guy and come on man, just think about all the compounding interest you can get if you live forever. Oh, yeah. Compounding interest for a million years. Which is what these people do now.

That's all they think about. Yeah, it just made me laugh because it was just like, yeah, that's that's a way to sell a rich guy on it. Imagine if you live for hundreds and millions of years, how many come with compounding interest? You'll get on your money.

But yeah, that that I think if you treat this as a more straightforward movie and not a horror comedy, I think it works better. But a body horror movie. Yeah. I think it works better because the the special effects makeup is there, right?

Although, but you know what? There is a straight horror movie with this premise and it's it we've covered it on this podcast. It's dead and buried. That's true.

Yeah. I was thinking myself that death becomes her did this better. I have I like this movie more when it was called dead and buried and also when it was called get out. Oh, get out.

Okay. I get out part. What do you wear? Where's the correlation or the correlation?

The correlation just being the that is essentially the premise. The reason for get out is that these people are living for are trying to extend their lives. Just the ending scene with Vincent Price trying to sell his his wares to the rich people just reminded me of that kind of just set up with Bradley Whitford as like the doctor. Okay.

Yeah. That makes sense. Yeah. Yeah.

I don't know. But more than buried. Yeah. But I have a lot I have in my notes.

Joe Pisco has the unfortunate task of delivering a lines written for him because I hated every single line. It is like I said, I don't know if his buttons felt like it was just him. Like I don't know. I don't know who's going to take the plane for it.

Sure. Tell me. I don't know his humor enough to know if that was ad-libbed or not. No.

I don't really think we have a lot to check either. No. Never had much of a career. He was in the was it Johnny Dangerously with Michael Keaton?

Oh, right. Yeah. Right. I think that was like his first four way for a into feature length films.

He's got a mug on him. Oh, he does. He certainly does. I thought for sure he was going to be the zombie.

Right. That's usually how that works. Yeah. But then when I saw the treat Williams name his character name was Roger Mortis.

I get it. Yeah. Really hit you over the head with that name. 68 episodes of Saturday Live.

Just one short of being nice. You do it. Yeah. I don't know.

This movie is kind of it's fine. It's cool stuff in it. Yeah. Yeah.

Definitely. It's a boilerplate formulaic body cop movie from this time period with one person that if you give him a better. Mel Gibson esque character to bounce off of works. It makes the movie work a lot better.

I do 100% agree with Ant and Pisco is the thing that brings it down. I don't like treat Williams as an actor. I don't necessarily think he's bad here, but he's just like he's skin milk. Yes.

Yeah. 100%. He's a boy. Yeah.

You give him a better, you know, what's it called? You know, the punchline funny man or whatever in, you know, playing, you know, playing off the straight man. I think it works better because you don't have as much as I loved his performance in this in what he was given. Treat Williams.

He is very milk toast, you know, as an actor. And just like it's looking at you nothing really. You know, the other side doesn't help like elevate the movie. I think treat has better scenes with the female actors and even the doctor than he does with this.

Oh, I have here the female main character has the face of a toddler that's been big. Yeah. Yeah. And she also is looking at her IMDb.

She was also a stillpapper star at the time. So she has very much of that acting going on. I don't know. Star and quotes.

I don't know. But she was on think of as the world turns are one of those for like six years before this. It's the writing directing team is pretty. It's kind of impressive.

Like, well, Terry Black is the brother of Shane Black who already changed. Black makes a cameo on this, right? I think he's a cop. But yeah, I mean, you know, Shane Black went on to write some pretty pretty good stuff and Mark Goldblatt.

Again, like I was saying, he was an editor for some classic movies like the two terminators, one of the Rambo movies. Like this guy, he was a part of some big stuff. It's just, I guess it goes to show being on that side of the camera. It's not for everybody, I guess.

You got Professor Toru Tanaka. He's been in a few movies that we've watched already. He was the butcher. Yes, I remember that.

He was Sub-Zero in the Running Man. He was in the Dark Man. Have we covered Last Action Hero for this podcast? We did.

I'm fairly sure we did. I wasn't sure if it was like the old show. We definitely covered it for the old show. We definitely covered it.

I know that. So I was like, and we have recovered of Instant Price movie? I don't think so. This might be his first appearance for us.

I know I've watched a whole bunch during 31 Days Hall, a horror, but not for this. Yeah. We have covered Last Action Hero. 158.

Damn. Lifetime ago. Over 150 episodes ago. Over 200 episodes ago.

Yeah. I liked, you know, another thing that I liked about this movie was it has an impressive body count. I read there's 32 dead people. That's insane.

That's like Robocop. That is a lot of people dead. Yes. I liked that the easy way out for this movie was that they were going to be a way to bring them back to life and not zombies.

I like the fact that they were going to die now. That's why I was rooting for what you were saying. And then when they showed me what they were doing, I was like, no, I like this much better. Yeah, you're a bootlegger.

That's why. I want all the cops to live forever. I don't know how to react to that because I don't have an argument for, you know, that. Typical South Philly.

I just wish that the end wasn't Joe Piscopo trying to make witty one liners into the afterlife. This really would be so much better without Joe Piscopo. It really would. Yeah, I think it would.

Yeah. Yeah. Agreed. I don't know who I would have put in instead.

Anybody probably anybody. Yeah. For some reason, I thought of treat Williams or maybe. Treat Williams.

Who treat Williams? Good. Now we're up at 2% milk. But what about instead of Joe Piscopo, we get Tom Hanks in there.

They're very similar looking at this stage. Sure. That's like having Turner and Turner instead of Turner and Hooch though. I guess.

Yeah. Turner and Turner. I don't know. 88.

Who's available for this kind of move for his? Yeah. I guess. I'm kind of saying.

Oh, shit. That's crazy, crazy behavior there. Where's the movie we watch? The catcher from Major League 2, isn't it?

Remember that movie? Ruben it? Not Rub. Parkman.

The guy. Park. Parkman. Chief David.

David Keith in the Gopis Copa Roll. Yes. Yeah. You're the other one with the panel Anderson.

Yes. Oh, when David Keith, like assaults her on camera. I mean, give me Keith David at this point. Give me Keith David in anything.

Literally anything. Yeah, I agree. All right, final thoughts, Dan. Yeah, I like this movie.

I don't love it. Like you guys were saying, I didn't care enough for the mystery to be really hooked. I was just more waiting for the next monster makeup or gore effect. This movie has its weight in gold in terms of squibs.

I love swibs, man. Those are my bread and butter. So this has that by the boatfall. So if you enjoyed that kind of special effects and all that kind of makeup and that kind of violence, this is like, this is kind of an underrated gem for that.

There's some some good gore effects in this. We mentioned the Chinese market, all the carcasses coming back to life, attacking Treat Williams and Joe Piscopo. Interesting premise, like Anthony said, just the execution isn't done well enough for it to land. Like I mentioned at the beginning, goldblatt, he knows how to shoot an action scene because the action scenes look good in this.

There's some good stuff. Again, the beginning, the opening scene with the shoot out, very reminiscent of Predator 2, even the part where Treat Williams drives a car towards the robbers. I think Danny Glover does that in Predator 2, the opening scene. What's that?

Is this going to be like a stone cold cobra situation where we find out that they just basically did it almost shot for shot? Yeah, it's immediately what I went through. But I think Predator 2 came out what 1990, I want to say, I forget. But I don't know what ripped off the other if at all.

It looked cool. I liked it. Yeah. But as Anthony mentioned, Joe Piscopo, while not terrible, does bring the movie down.

The jokes fall flat. He and Treat Williams, in my opinion, don't mesh well. It's like mixing oil and water. It didn't go very well.

But I still enjoyed it overall. I give it a pass. I would say check it out. Yeah.

So this is very much a one thing that popped in my head is this felt like a movie that you could put on after coming home from the bar and just be able to sit there and drink with your buddies and watch. Like don't need to pay attention to much. There's some great practical effects, you know, and just something that can be just on the TV while you're sitting there. And not really, you know, we have enough good action scenes, like the market scene and stuff like that to to peak your interest before you pass out for the night.

But yeah, I just, it just makes me think overall that this movie could have went from, I would say it's a six and a half seven out of 10. Probably more towards the six and a half. But as we keep saying, I know we keep shooting a piss off, which maybe rightfully so. I think with the better actor and we're not even talking like a list actor, like, you know, just somebody that fits better with Treat Williams and can land the comedy lines better takes this movie into the seven, because the premises solid, the formulaic stuff is solid.

You know, you can improve a bunch of places. Maybe the, you know, the actresses, you give bump them up a little bit and scale to help, but it all comes down to I think if you replace piss off with a even slightly better actor. It makes this movie a little bit more better. You know, you don't even need much of a swing.

But as Dan said, I recommend this movie. If you like watching 80s, buddy cop stuff for just 80s action in general, you won't be disappointed. This isn't like an out of nowhere stone code, which is something I will like, you know, preach to people about, you know, that you need to check this out if you like action. But yeah, as as I said, the best part about this movie is it's the only type of cop that there should be.

Yeah, this is a perfectly fine movie. It would be even better with Joe Pisco. And that's saying a lot because he's in a lot of this. Those are bold move to kill off the three main characters.

And yeah, I know the action scenes were cool. The effects were cool. But, you know, I think really what was holding me back from fully enjoying this film was, you know, Joe Pisco and for to an extent, treat Williams, he has the benefit of being the straight man. So you don't really come to expect much from a straight man.

But again, I've got baggage or treat Williams. He knows we did. Deep rising sucked. But yeah, this is a fine movie.

It's a clever twist on, you know, an already established, I guess it really wasn't a much of a trope at the point that it was made, but like, you know, leave the weapon already come out. So at least enough, a clever quiz on a trope adding that super natural element to it. But yeah, at the end of the day, it's just Joe Pisco really drags us down. So real quick, Ant.

Yeah. Do you think one of the major problems is that they don't do enough with the idea that's given to them where these guys are unkillable, essentially? I think that's a fair point. I think I think they introduce the premise and don't really fully flesh it out.

They don't explore it the way you would hope that they would, right? Yeah, I would want to see some over the top stuff. Like they kind of do it towards the end. But I would like to have seen it happen more in the middle where they're trying to solve the mystery and treat Williams just put himself constantly in harm's way and like crazy shit happens to him.

Right. Yeah, I think that's a fair point. But yeah, that's my thoughts on dead heat and we're going to take a quick break for our third segment before we do it. And we got for us.

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And we're going to take a quick break and then we'll be back with our third segment. So don't go anywhere. And welcome back now. So we're at time for a third segment.

And this segment is one star reviews, nice buddy, cop edition. So we played this game a bunch of times. Basically, I have three one star reviews for a total of 10 movies. They get progressively easier as you go along.

So basically, the first review, I'm going to read is a little more abstract and we'll get a little more obvious as we go. Your guys job is to guess which movie it is. So I think the last time we played this, we decided it makes more sense for you guys to get a guest per clue. Yeah.

That's something. Yeah. Mark always waits for Dan to guess wrong. And then we always just get down to the final.

The final. I was going to say my risk of versus this would make me want to wait until the last clue. Yeah. All right.

So that's we're going to do it. And what is your chime and be? Give me your best impression of a cop car. A siren.

A siren. All right. All right. All right.

Here it is. First movie. First one star review. What's the joke?

Racism. What's the plot? Racism. What's the plot?

Racism. What's the point of the movie? Friendship. I'm just kidding.

It's racism. Mark. Is that rush hour? It is not rush hour.

We will. Dan. Police Academy. It is not police academy moving on to the two pointer.