Hey guys, just before we get into this episode, I just wanted to give a little quick warning that the audio in this one might be a little bad just because we had some technical issues in the beginning and unfortunately we did not listen to playback, which was sort of my fault. Okay, it's 100% my fault, but this episode is just too good not to put out. So I'm going to go ahead and put it out. Just know that there is a little bit of echo.
Sorry, but hey, you know, we're trying here. And I know it's been a while since the end of the episode, so I just had to put this out for you guys. I know you've been dying to listen to us, we've been dying to talk to you guys, so please take the time to listen and enjoy. Thank you.
And welcome back to Talking Nonsense. I'm your host Kyle, and I'm here with Christopher. And today we have a very special guest with us, one of my friends from college, we have... Hi, Don Rico de Castro, otherwise known as the Yellmaster.
Yeah, there you go. Let's get intro. Don Rico here is actually very talented. He does singing, writes his own songs, a little bit of acting too, I know.
Alright, do you dance at all? No, I can't dance. No, you've never done any of the... I thought you've done like, ten Inkling and stuff.
No, never? Just the acting in choir. Oh, okay. Stage for peace and...
Right, yeah, yeah. Oh, Chris Rorn here in one of the performances, no? No, not for the dancing. Oh, okay, never mind.
Well, almost triple b... Oh, good luck. So there you go, triple b... Nice hair, dude, by the way.
Thank you. Yeah, I really like the... Damn jealous. Yeah, so...
I'm not sure if you remember, sorry. She's the only one who actually caught my hair. Oh, yeah, oh, that's right. So she...
Cause her is up? Yeah, I think she's trying to become a barber. Oh, okay, cool. Another friend of ours.
Oh, man. I'm so popular. Yeah. Like every guest we've had, they're all like your friends.
And I guess they're my new friends. Oh, that's right. I really don't know. Yeah, so just wanted to bring you out and talk about some of your creative processes of how you go about...
Like I said, you write your own music, write your own songs and anything. So you do like the chords and everything too, right? When you make your songs and anything, you make the beats yourself and everything? Yeah, everything.
So how's that work though? Like are you mainly just playing guitar or whatever you're using? Or do you do like the drums and all that stuff too? For basically like open mics and live performances all I have is playing it lately.
Right. But when we go into the studio, my friend has this whole set. We have guitars and drums and his whole computer kit. Right.
Do you play the drums at all or is it just... The closest thing is the percussion egg. Okay. So you mainly just do the guitar and you can play it.
Okay. When you go to the studio and stuff, you have something in mind already, you know kind of what you're going into. Or is it just kind of like you'll play around a little bit and see the only thing you can find something. I can work with that.
But we have the core songs and then from there we play around with it. Oh, okay. But it's nice to have that bass to work with. Right.
So you're not coming in completely. You're just like, I'm just playing around and see what's going on. There have been some times when we played around that. It's just fun, but it's always the time.
That's all right. That's perfect. So out of when you write your songs in, like, because I've heard the one that you posted, I think it's titled You. For you?
Yeah, that one's really good. I like that one a lot. I'll probably play a little snippet at some point in this podcast. But I want to really like a lot.
So I just wanted to like ask you, like where did the inspiration come from for like that song? Do you most of your songs based off of like real life situations or is it just stuff that you're like, this sounds good. Like these words would sound good together. You just put it together.
All of my songs are a story. And if they're not my story, there's someone else's story. Okay. For an example, I wrote a song called Blue Valentine based off the movie Blue Valentine.
For you, for example, I wrote that senior year of high school. So 2011. Oh, dang. That was the first song that I wrote.
And it was obviously it's a confession song for a girl. And it was just the message. You know, it's, I want to be with you. This is a song I wrote for you.
And yeah, that's what that song's about. At the end of the day, it didn't work. That was my follow-up. It doesn't follow-up.
It doesn't follow-up. It doesn't follow-up. Me and the girl were still really good friends today. She did some of the cover arc for some of the songs I'm releasing.
Oh, wow. That's a really talented artist. Oh, for sure. But mostly they're all just stories.
Right. What's your latest one you're working on right now? You know what I'm asking you. I'm almost done with this new one that I'm writing for Play On The Porch Day.
It's, I'm going to call it spagetification. Sorry, what? Spagetification. Spagetification.
Spagetification. Spagetification. Okay, gotcha. And that's when, it's that sensation when there's a black hole and it's sucking you in and you're kind of like...
Big stretch. ...stretched out like spaghetti. It's a scientific term. Oh, it's an actual...
Yeah. It's not that you just made it out. Okay. That's pretty cool, man.
I requested some suggestions for space facts and that was one of them. It couldn't fit into the song. But I was like, it's such a great space fact and it's an interesting name. It just catches you right there.
So that's going to be the title. So what's that? So, what are you writing that mainly about that? Is it like about feeling like sucked into something or just like...
It's about a girl that's unattainable. Okay. The chorus is, she's heavenly, but I'm down to earth. I like that.
So right away, you know that she's... Above. Yeah, right. So there's no way...
You know there's no way for this to work out, but you're still hoping and reaching for this guy. That makes it cool. Yeah. How many songs have you fully produced so far besides for you?
Produced a bunch of working on it right now, I guess. We have two songs. Well, actually, when this comes out, there's going to be three songs. There's For You from We To Me and Hummingbird, who's going to be the latest one coming out.
Okay, cool. So three produced so far. Lotus isn't where, because that one's gotten delayed, but I have a whole album of songs that we're working on moving forward from there. So you're like main goal is to produce all these songs and put out an album, basically?
Pretty much. Self-self-artice, though, right? You're not signed or anything? No.
Right. So I signed this guy now, though. Anybody who's important listening, I don't know who listens to this one anymore, but... I'm just trying to spend in production.
I've never really taken that into consideration when I listen to music. It's like, I just have no idea about how long it takes to actually make a track. That's a good question. Yeah.
I'm supposed to say that again. Good job, Chris. Yeah. When you're on Spotify and stuff, you're just jamming to the music, whatever you're listening to, but you never really take a step back and you're like, oh, how much time went into this?
Super distracting. Well, Hummingbird right away, we knew that one was just going to be a very simple song. So that one didn't take as long as it needs to be, but Lotus, on the other hand, we've been working on it for several months now, just on that one track alone. Is it just because you guys are trying to find the right tune, the lyrics aren't working, or what's taking us along?
Or is it scheduling like lit? Well, because it's... Oh, we're doing it all on our own. Right.
So we'll learn different things moving forward that we didn't know recording the previous ones. Like, there's certain ways to edit the voice and edit sounds that way just, okay, well, we want to make this song better knowing what we know now, how can we apply it to this newer song? Right. That's why it's been set back so much.
Yeah, for sure. Now, when you're writing these songs, what sort of comes first to you? Do you have a bit of lyrics and then you try to find a tune for those lyrics, or is it like first of you have a tune and you just find lyrics for the tune? What comes first for you?
It really depends. Sometimes I'll have a nice set of chords and I'll be like, you know, this sounds nice. What can I do? What kind of story can I tell with these chords?
And then there's this whole mountain of loose papers that I have, of just lyrics that I'm waiting to find the right chords for. Okay. Just a little bit about that. It's a bit about that.
Yeah. That's cool. Because I know when I, because I used to write a lot too, yeah, I actually wrote lyrics like poems, mainly like rap bars because I can't sing for shit. So I just go like rap the bars.
So I just be like, you know, it's like rhymes and whatnot. And like for me, I'd always listen to, when I'm like listening to tracks or whatever, I try to like, when I like a beat, I'm just like, oh shit, let me see if I can spit my own lyrics. So I usually go for the beat first and then try to spit a lyric or whatever. Or sometimes I'll just think of words for like quick little two bars that rhyme and go well and just like, yeah, I'm gonna be tight.
But I don't know where to even begin to like have a beat that would go well with that. You know what I mean? So that's like interesting that you have it both ways. Like you could do, you could have chords.
Okay, now let me try to find lyrics. But you have lyrics. Okay, now let me try to find chords. It's also, it's like, it's pretty cool.
Is it hard to like come up with your own chords and stuff like that? Or like do you take inspiration from other songs and sort of just put your twist on it? It's interesting. It's interesting because you'll play around with it for a while.
You know, this would sound better as maybe a seventh chord instead of a major chord or a minor chord instead of a, you know, a major chord. Or sometimes you'll major chords. They're pretty good too. Could you like play as an example of what you mean?
Because like for me, like I'm not a music guy. So when you mean like main chord and I'm just like, oh yeah, okay, but like deep down I'm like, what? That's nice, you can lay it. That's nice, you can lay it.
Yeah, that is how it's nice. Damn, where'd you get that at? You made it. My friend painted actually this.
Oh, okay, let's say yeah, it looks custom. There's a picture on Instagram with it. Okay. I like working with a lot of local people.
It's to art and stuff. Because it's nice, you know. Yeah, in the whole C11. So let's see, well A, okay.
And then maybe an A7. There's a little bit of a difference in the A minor. Okay, yeah. So there's just little subtle differences when you're playing it.
So it's, hopefully you don't like to pick that up. Sure, I'm sure. So once I said it, some more is not. So it's just a little bit of a difference.
But a little bit could go a long way when it comes to a minor 7, 6 is. There's a whole bunch of different terms for everything. Yeah. Did you ever take lessons or did you learn all this on your own?
Mostly on my own. Of course there's the YouTube tutorial here and there. Right, yeah. But I haven't had any formal instruction.
Oh, so you've never took classes before? No, I've always been able to do that. I just feel like you've done a lot. When you went to college and stuff, you would always be playing here.
You could always be playing here. You were playing something. But you were always like, yeah, you'd always be playing. You were so good.
I just assumed you learned at a young age. You were taught or took lessons or whatnot. But you never took lessons before? No, actually I picked it up just to play that one song for you for that girl.
Oh, wow. That was where it all started. Thanks. For you was the very first.
For you was the first instrument that I played on my own. It was the first time I wrote a song for someone. It was the first time I wrote it. Did you know that you could always sing?
Yes. He was confident. Yeah. Well, as a kid, did your parents make you sing or anything?
I think it's a very common thing for a Filipino background when you sing. Your parents put you out there to show about you. For me, I did a lot of parties and stuff with them because they also have their own DJing thing. Oh, but a very common thing was, hey, you're going to play when everyone's eating.
Right. You're going to sing when everyone's eating. Just go out there and do good. Just do good.
Were you ever in a church choir or anything like that? No, not a church choir. We actually didn't have any other stuff. No, you didn't have any school either.
That's not a thing. Wow, okay. Did you have programs like that school? Did you join or did you have programs like that?
We didn't have programs like that until after I graduated. Oh, okay. Which is good for my younger brothers. That went through the same school.
Right. That's good for me. So do your siblings play too and sing? Yes.
So the other two, AJ and Andrew, Andrew is really talented. He had lessons for guitar and vocal lessons. AJ, he's trying his own thing. And the good thing about music is we're completely different styles, so he's poppin' on whenever I am.
Right. What would you consider yourself? I feel like I'm easy listening. That's what Google says I am.
So I'm gonna go with it. Google says yeah. Well, so is that what you consider your daughter? What's your genre then?
Just easy listening? I don't know. It's hard to unplay something for you later. You can tell me what you think it is.
Right. Because I know you're song for you. Yeah, it's hard to explain. It's like really laid back.
It's not listening, man. Yeah. I think I did it some time. It's nice to go on music.
You're not tied down to specifically one type of genre. Even if you start off as easy listening. You could, you know, like Taylor Swift obviously. When she started, she was like super country.
Now she's like, pop. Super pop. Which is a good thing or bad thing. That's like whatever's listening.
But that's the nice thing about music is you can just kind of transition from one genre to another. It works out. Yeah. How do you get into like the acting and stuff then?
Yeah. I know and stuff. But yeah, I guess I really do. He's like an actor as well.
He's done a couple of YouTube videos because I know you have your own YouTube channel. Right? Or diesel is this active? It's kind of active.
I've been meaning to post more on it. The vlogging channel. Definitely I had to take a step back from that because daily vlogging is such a taxing. Is that what you did?
I did daily vlogging. I did on one channel. I wanted to do this. And then I did music and acting and skits and stuff on a separate channel.
Wow. But yeah, I mean you guys probably know that's a bit of a grind. Oh yeah. For sure.
I mean you know more than I do. Yeah. I mean eventually I do want to start having this podcast be on YouTube and doing video podcasts and whatnot. We just need the right put in time.
But you've also actually acted in a movie before. Specifically from Philippines. Oh, what? Yeah.
He was in a movie in the Philippines. He's been over there for the production and all that. Right? Yeah.
What movie was that again? I'm along here with the vampire chronicles. Wow. What was your character?
I was like... I was like my own cousin. It's all my lines are in English. But unfortunately when they said yeah you can go home, they didn't check the audio quality.
So if you watch the movie, I'm dubbed over. It's like watching one of those Chinese movies. Yeah, because your audio was just bad. I don't know what they did.
But you can obviously tell it's not my voice. Right. Yeah, they should have dubbed you. That's rough.
So your face is in there. Just not your voice. There's only one line in the whole thing where you can hear it's my voice. Oh wow.
It's not funny. But the rest of it's like wow. This is a bad dubbing job. Yeah, yeah.
When did that come out or how long ago was that? We started filming it in 2013 I believe. It didn't come out. It was 16, 2017.
Wow. One of the stars, Sonia Lopez. Sonia Lopez, I'm sorry. She's actually grown so much in the Philippines as an actress.
But by the time the movie came out she was like I actually don't remember doing this. Oh wow. That's how you know you made it. When you forget stuff like that.
It almost caused a bit of trouble with her company. She was like oh I actually forgot that I recorded this movie. She built herself up. And then this lower budget became popular as one of the headlining stars.
So you've obviously watched it already before. Did it come out in theaters over there? Or was it one of those TV movies or like what was it? It came out in theaters over there.
Wow. They got a premiere and everything. There's a picture of me. And there's not me.
There's a picture of my seat that was reserved. And there was some older lady sitting in it. And the cat are like screwed up so she can take a picture of it. So you weren't there for the premiere though.
He was just setting holograms. So you said you started filming in 2013 and it came out to like 16, 17. How long was production wise? How long were you there for?
And I think for the shoot. Probably like nine months. So did you have a place to stay? Like they provided you that?
No I stayed with the family that lived out there. Were they close to the set or were the locations were going to be? They were in Laguna. And we were in a small town in a small wood carving town in Laguna.
So it wasn't too far from that location. But when we had to travel to the other locations because they went all around Philippines. We just had to keep finding different places to stay. That was about right.
Do you have your own like IMDB credits now? I do. But there's not a picture of me. It's just the profile.
Right. And then the blank one. And I was like how do I get my picture on here? I think you literally create your own account and you can update your own profile page and add your own picture and anything.
So that's how a lot of the most part like the actual A list. I think they have people do it for them. Like IMDB just does it for them. Or like maybe like the lower level people and what not.
I'm not saying it for them. I mean like that. I didn't mean like that. The people under them.
There's just no way. I think they do it themselves. I know my one of my friends he made his own IMDB page with his picture and everything. I did his own bio.
And I know this other girl too who's an actress. Like she made her own IMDB page. Put her own credits in and everything like that. So I think you just make your own account and then you just got to do it yourself.
I have to look into that. I mean I can edit like the little things. So you'll see my nickname in my page. But I never knew how to do the picture.
Right. That's pretty cool though man. You have your own IMDB credit man. So you were credited in the film right?
Yes. Okay. Do you get like royalty checks from that? No.
No. No they came me off. They gave me cash in front. Oh yeah.
This works. That's cool. How did you land that? Like you do.
You have an agent and everything too. Like the closest thing to an agent is my grandma. Right. She's dating one of the lead actors that were in there.
Oh wow. Let's bring him. Wow. Okay so I just wear him out.
Like you just heard her and she's like hey they're filming this movie and they want you out here. That's it. Oh wow. That's cool.
We just immediately like I'm going to jump in. I'm down. Yeah because how old were you? Like 2013?
Twenty one. Wow. Okay. I was like I'm a junk man.
Let's go. Right. I'm still young enough to where I could do this and then come back and then build from there. Yeah.
If nothing happens. Were you in school at that time? I've been bouncing back and forth. Right.
Right. Especially taking that break to go over to the Philippines. Yeah. You got me out of that.
I got to go to school. Mentality. Right. So I've just been taking one or two classes every semester since then.
Oh yeah. That's very cool man. So I'm talking about like were you. Oh.
Oh yeah. Yeah. How did you come up with the lyrics? I mean like did you just come back to you or did you really have to sit down and think about it or did you like read poetry and then kind of like over there.
What was the process behind that? It went on. It went on you. It pretty much came to me.
Sometimes it works like that. Yeah. And then sometimes I have to sit down for hours and maybe I'll get one line or a few lyrics that'll sound good to me. Yeah.
For sure. But yeah. I had a very direct message to say. Yeah.
And it all just flowed. It all just started off. Yeah. Oh, you're gonna listen for sure.
Yeah. I was like, wait, press right now. Oh, if you don't mind. Oh, sorry.
Let me just make sure everything's tuned. We're gonna have a live performance guys. Hope you guys are ready. Does that have an automatic tune?
Yeah. I was like, oh, this side. So how do you know if it's in tune? I guess.
It tells them. Oh, some people they can do it by here and I used to be able to. Right. But no, you can't do it anymore.
I got a different instrument. Oh. Oh. You gotcha.
I'm so glad it's with you. See, my heart is a pounding because I think you're outstanding and I know that these feelings are true. Because you're super cool and I'm just a fool and if you say no, I'll be blue. Because I'm asking you anyway, please.
I'm just not going away. I'm laying it all out for you. Cause I don't care if your hair's a mess. I'll make my hair messier too.
Don't you worry if your answer's blurry. Just tell me what you want to do. Cause girl, I'm crazy for you. I'm just crazy for you.
So I'm singing you the song. This confession's kind of long and I'm wondering what you think too. You see, I'm hoping you say yes cause I'm attempting to impress and I'm hoping I could be your boo. Cause you're super cool and I'm just a fool and if you say no, I'll be blue.
But I'm asking you anyway. Please, just don't run away. I'm laying it all out for you. Cause I don't care if your hair's a mess.
I'll make my hair messier too. Cause girl, I'm crazy for you. I'm just crazy for you. And I'm hoping that you're crazy too.
Wow, that was a good job. That no flat to do. I feel like that would work man. Oh yeah, I know huh.
That was like really good. You know what I thought it was going to work too. Did you sing it to her? After band practice, I said, hey, I'm going to show you something real quick.
If you could step aside and then all the other guys, they went outside and they were like, looking in the door and I was like, get out of here you guys. Right. I mean, it's really courage man. That takes a lot.
I bet. I bet. So what was like her initial reaction, which at least happy? She didn't know what to sing.
No one had ever done something like that for her. Let's see. You don't have to relive it. You don't remember the exact thing you blocked it out.
But you know, we gave it a night for her to think about it and everything and she came back the next day and was like, pretty much thank you but no. She was really nice about it. We're bandmates and friends and everything. That's cool.
At least you guys still manage to stay friends. You said she's the one that's done your cover art, right? She's done the one for Lois. You remember my banner for pollinating squid.
Yeah. She did that one as well. There's a lot more. We're going to work together a lot more in the future.
Oh, that's good. Hey, you never know, man. Just write another song for her and then maybe. Seriously.
Seriously. Okay, now for you for real. That's pretty interesting though that you came up with that. Just because.
So I write short stories. And so I get the whole like sometimes it just like it comes to you and like, you know, you want to say what we're working on. You use them. It's like there are days where it's just like, yeah, like it's just this one line.
And then you just see that little blinking cursor mark on top word. So I mean, that's pretty cool though that I came straight to you know, you usually stuff like that too. I feel like it's always, I feel like you know that's going to be a good one when it's just like you feel it like inside of you. Yeah.
Sorry. So yeah, you said you wrote you write short stories. So we're trying to pull your information from it. Similar to him.
Does it just like you write yourself based off, you know, real life situations or what? Yeah, kind of sort of the most part. So like all this stuff I write rather on a short story that I do like that I'll share. It's because it's a it's a prompted emotion.
Like obviously you're a poor you for a girl. Also that like I was because either something happened to me and it made me feel certain type of way. Funny enough though, I tried to lately I've been not trying to do that. I've been just trying to write something out of like, I guess, then air quote unquote.
But I think isn't always better. It's sort of right from what you're feeling though. Yeah. And to sort of agree.
Maybe you can attest to this. But at least for me the reason why try not to do that is just because you can get heavy handed sometimes and it's like if it's too poetic or too frozen, it just kind of takes away from the authenticity of your voice. Would you agree? There we go.
I definitely agree with that. Yeah. So you tried to not really write from emotion then or what? It really depends on what the topic of the song is because there's songs like that just pure emotion.
So then there's other songs where I have to take a step back and be like, you know, this might be a bit too personal. Right. And the person on the receiving end might not want me to have got you. Yeah.
For that, yeah, I guess for that situation that makes sense then yeah. But like he said, so he's written a few short stories and one of them that he was willing to share with me was this one called Rocket Man, which I thought was really good because essentially it's just about this guy who sort of making a decision in his life to go on this trip that's essentially a one way trip and he's just like ready to sort of leave everything behind. And like to me, I took that as like someone who sort of knows that he's about to die and is like coming up with his own sense of trying to accept like his fate. So like I took that story and I actually wrote my own script for it because I don't plan on shooting eventually.
Hopefully. Yeah. So it's just like. You know what I mean?
Yeah. Yeah. So it's like it was really good. And like I know that one when he wrote that he wrote that purely off of like what he was going through at the time of his life.
So that's why I'm just kind of like I think it's better if you write from your emotions. It was so good to me at least, you know. But I guess what you're saying like obviously if you're trying to write something for someone else and you're like going off of your emotion maybe it might not sit well with them because you really I think okay wait a second. You know I don't want to say fucking bitch.
It sounds like that. Wow. Okay. Yeah.
So that's cool though. I think that's an interesting thing too. I guess like I think like songwriting and like kind of like story writing is not say that songwriting is always emotionally based. I feel like there's at least more of an emotional charge there no matter what level you're writing it is whereas where you're sort of writing you can kind of create like a universe essentially like build on like more of an imaginary kind of thing.
Not say that you couldn't do that with songwriting but I mean I feel like just the emotional element might be more prevalent in like songwriting rather than if you're going to write like short stories or like what's the novel. Any short stories at all or is it mainly just music? You know I try to write short stories and I've had ideas for short stories but nothing I could commit to. But mostly just music.
But like you said earlier these songs that you're making you're sort of trying to build a story with all of them are like they all pretty connected in a sense is like the album that you would hopefully put out tells a bigger picture you know I mean like is that what you're aiming for? Like each song is telling a different part of the whole story right? That's one of the concepts that I had for an album because each song is the journey this person takes from finish to end. Right.
And the one thing is people don't listen to albums full length anymore. Oh yeah. People are just picking shoes with songs they ride with these days. It's true.
I remember I think we talked about this in one of our podcast episodes. So basically like before like back in the day when artists put out an album I remember always being so excited for the whole album and like wanting to listen to every song. And now that I think so digital and like one song could be downloaded I feel like a lot of artists don't. I mean I'm sure a lot of artists still do but at least the ones that are like mainstream.
Like they usually always put out one good song where the rest are just like throw away so they just need an album for. Yeah like to me I just feel like that's like lazy work. Like I don't see too many artists putting out albums that were each song like tells a different story. Except for a few that I know that I've listened to.
Like that's what I like. I like listening to songs that all connect to each other from one artist. Oh sure. And now it's the next story like that's tight.
I mean I think the last album that I listened to like from start to finish was probably like Take 30's Man on the Moon. I know it's probably one of my favorite albums of like all time. And just because like it's what you mentioned it was kind of his journey and you get to like if you like really pay attention to the lyrics. And you sit down to it and you listen to it.
It's like you can tell like he's been through like he's been through the sticks. I mean that's always pretty cool too. And I think that's like the nice thing about like songwriting is if you're able to find that Easter egg it makes like the songs much more rewarding in that sense. Yeah.
Yeah. Like I know we talked about your style but just after you play that song for us like I don't know if you take this in a face or anything. I mean nothing to it. Like Jason Maras sort of like vibe you know what I mean.
Like and when it was written that was the popular. Yeah. 2011 that was definitely Jason Maras era. So that's what I wanted to ask you is like so do you pull any like of your inspiration from other artists out here nowadays or whatnot.
Like if so like who. That's an interesting question. Definitely if you want to make great music you have to listen to the greats. Of course.
Yeah. Yeah. There's no way. I mean I'm sure there's exceptions to the rules.
Right. I mean that's how I read like people that I love like anyway or we're going to be doing something else. I mean like some of their stories are at least their style in some degree. But yeah.
Sorry. But my style now is definitely not it's changed. Obviously things change from for you. I don't really know who exactly if I could say was like my building path for inspiration.
Right. Like you ever listen to like a song that's out and you're just like oh man like I want to write something similar to this sort of style and like try to write stuff like that or. You just listen to something like that school and then like when you get into the process of writing your own music you sort of just forget about that song and you start writing your own stuff or do you have that song in the back of your head when you're writing it. You know what I mean?
Definitely the latter where I have that song in the back of my head when I'm writing. I like to look at what they do in the recording studio and how they formate their songs. Like Billy Eilish for example. Right.
A lot of her songs you can't sing sing. Yeah. They're very close up to the mic whispering songs and it only works in like that kind of a setting. Right.
Right. Um. Um. Um.
Ugly Kid. Or is it Ugly Kid? Then when they just came out I'm not sure if you guys know. I know.
I don't know too much of this song. Um. It's very lax as opposed to when he's performing it live he's more. Ugly.
Ugly. Yelling. Kind of. And it works for him.
He's definitely grown as an artist and as a musician and as a performer. And you can tell that just by watching him now. Right. So other than that so it's like you sort of just write that like you just have in the back of your mind and sort of try to match it but like pull from it.
Because like as you said you would read stories and try to emulate the writers you read. Yeah. Like for me too like when I'm trying to think of like script ideas or like just shots in general how like I want this scene to play out. I'm always thinking of like films that I've watched and sort of use that as a reference like for example like Inception.
Like there's a scene in Inception where I think Cobb is like talking about mom and like how he's like getting so into it and I think I'm just like ooh like if I did this scene like that. And that's what I'm trying to like explain in my story. Like so I was like pulled from other films be like how do I show that I'm trying to have this character act this way. I'm like oh easy.
Uh. I'll just do it just like that. And I mean but like I'll put my own Swiss on it so that's I was just like asking if like that's sort of what you do for your writing process or whatnot. But yeah.
Yeah. So kind of piggyback off that as well. So like what I'll do when I read other like authors like I'll try to all like all look at their word choice. Is that something you do too when you're like listen to like songs or if you write your own words you like listen to songs and the other words to use and like this kind of scenario.
Yeah. Like no use a word that's not normally used. It's like wow that's such an interesting word that really draws me in. Yeah.