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EPISODE · Feb 27, 2026 · 38 MIN

Episode 39: While You Were Sleeping

from All Things Vagus · host Kathleen Mangan

Kathy interviews Dr. Michael Smith and Dagny Deutchman from Natura Health and Wellness in Missoula. This interview features a discussion on the neuroscience and physiology of sleep, highlighting its critical roles in memory consolidation, emotional processing, and the "glymphatic" clearing of brain toxins like amyloid beta proteins. The experts emphasize that sleep quality is inextricably linked to daytime habits—such as nutrition, movement, and social connection—and suggest that cultivating curiosity about our dreams can help regulate the nervous system and reduce sleep-related anxiety. Dagny Deutchman is the owner and founder of The Art of Rest. They are a nervous system professional who works from a top down, and bottom up approach to the nervous system specializing in not only in stabilizing a nervous system through sleep, rest, and habit formation, but also how to access nervous system health through connection, creativity, wonder, and awe. Dr. Smith received his medical training from the National University of Natural Medicine in Portland, Oregon. Before that, he completed a master’s degree in New York City where his research focused on epigenetics and neuroscience. Dr. Smith has previously filled roles in the biotechnology and medical devices sector and various community organizations. For more information about Dr. Smith, visit his personal page at www.drmichaelsmithnd.com. For more information about Doctors White and Smith, and their practice at Natura Health and Wellness, visit www.natura.health Special Guests: Dagney Deutchman and Michael Smith.

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