Episode 4: Burnout, Overwhelm, & Why Rest Feels Impossible

Why does rest feel so hard—even when we desperately need it? In this episode of What Even Is This?, hosts Jane Doerman and Jordan Johnstone dig into burnout, overwhelm, and the guilt that shows up the moment we try to slow down. If you’ve ever felt exhausted but unable to rest because there’s always more to do, this conversation is for you. Jane and Jordan are joined by Mindy Caliguire, author and founder of Soul Care, for an honest discussion about productivity culture, soul neglect, and what real rest actually looks like. Together, they explore why our worth is often tied to output, how burnout sneaks up on working moms, and why caring for your soul isn’t optional—it’s foundational. This episode offers permission to rest, language for what you’re experiencing, and practical insight for anyone running on empty. In This Episode, We Discuss: Why rest feels impossible in a productivity-driven culture The guilt working moms feel when slowing down How burnout shows up before we recognize it What “soul neglect” looks like in everyday life Why rest is a necessity, not a luxury What real rest looks like beyond sleep and scrolling Beliefs about work, success, and worth that need to be unlearned About Our Guest: Mindy Caliguire is the founder of Soul Care and the author of Soul Care and Ignite Your Soul. For decades, she has helped leaders and everyday women reconnect with God by tending to their inner lives, creating space for rest, renewal, and sustainable living. Connect With Us: We want to hear from you. What resonated with you in this episode? What beliefs about rest or productivity are you questioning? Email: [email protected] Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thewhatevenisthispodcast/ About the Show: What Even Is This? is a podcast for women navigating adulthood in real time—working, parenting, believing, doubting, laughing, crying, and spiraling along the way. We don’t pretend to have the answers. We name the chaos and talk about it honestly. Hosts: Jane Doerman & Jordan Johnstone Episode Type: Guest Episode Runtime: Approximately 45–60 minutes If this episode helped you feel a little less alone, please subscribe, rate, and share it with someone who might need permission to rest. Because life is messy, chaos is real, and none of us have it all figured out—and that’s exactly why we’re here.