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EPISODE · Jul 17, 2026 · 51 MIN

Episode 4: First Aid Training behind the scenes, package updates and NIFAT

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What does quality first aid training actually look like, and are increasingly shorter courses affecting student confidence and real-world outcomes?In this episode of Beyond the Bandage, the ABC First Aid team sits down with Andy Panes, founder of the National Institute of First Aid Trainers, better known as NIFAT.With more than 15 years of experience running his own business and supporting first aid trainers throughout Australia, Andy brings extensive knowledge across first aid education, assessment, compliance and professional development.Andy has also contributed at an industry level through the First Aid Industry Reference Committee with SkillsIQ, including helping shape updates to Australia’s first aid units of competency.Throughout the conversation, Andy discusses:• His journey into emergency care and first aid training• How Australia’s first aid units of competency are developed• Why changing a unit can affect the entire VET sector• Whether CPR competency can be credit transferred into a first aid course• Why competency units technically do not expire• The importance of professional development for trainers• What separates an average trainer from a great trainer• Cognitive overload and why trainers should remove unnecessary information• Whether first aid courses are becoming too short• The balance between online learning and face-to-face training• Why student confidence should matter more than course duration• The increasing pressure of price and time competition• The challenges facing trainers and assessors• The upcoming IFAT Conference in Adelaide• Why keeping first aid education simple can produce better outcomesAndy also explains why a strong trainer is not necessarily the person who shares the most information. Instead, it is someone who understands what students genuinely need to remember when an emergency occurs.This is an important discussion for first aid trainers, RTO owners, assessors, workplace safety professionals and anyone responsible for delivering quality first aid education.Subscribe to Beyond the Bandage for more conversations exploring the real people, experiences and impact behind first aid.00:00 Welcome to Beyond the Bandage00:23 Meet Andy Panes from NIFAT01:18 Andy’s introduction to emergency care02:21 Inside the First Aid Industry Reference Committee04:05 Why changing competency units is so complicated06:25 Will first aid units change again soon?08:06 CPR credit transfers and competency requirements09:34 Do first aid and CPR certificates expire?11:01 NIFAT’s approach to recent CPR training12:07 Why Andy created NIFAT13:43 Growing NIFAT to more than 800 members14:47 Why professional development matters16:32 Updating a certificate is not professional development18:44 What makes a great first aid trainer?20:03 Why trainers should remove the fluff21:42 Are first aid courses becoming too short?24:02 The problem with assessment-only courses26:07 Why fewer trainers want shortened classes28:20 Student outcomes should determine course duration30:03 Eight-hour courses and cognitive overload31:31 Finding the right blended-learning model33:34 When less training can produce better results35:02 The pressure of price and time competition37:35 Can the first aid industry agree on a standard?39:06 Why regulation is unlikely to solve everything41:01 The most competitive area of first aid training43:01 Why high-quality trainers still stand out45:06 Engaged trainers and professional development46:17 The upcoming IFAT Conference in Adelaide48:03 Conference speakers and practical workshops50:02 Andy’s final advice for first aid trainers#BeyondTheBandage #ABCFirstAid #FirstAidTraining #FirstAidTrainer #NIFAT #NIFATConference #FirstAidEducation #ProfessionalDevelopment #RegisteredTrainingOrganisation #RTO #VocationalEducation #WorkplaceSafety #CPRTraining #FirstAidCompliance #TrainerDevelopment

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What does quality first aid training actually look like, and are increasingly shorter courses affecting student confidence and real-world outcomes? In this episode of Beyond the Bandage, the ABC First Aid team sits down with Andy Panes, founder of the National Institute of First Aid Trainers, better known as NIFAT. With more than 15 years of experience running his own business and supporting first aid trainers throughout Australia, Andy brings extensive knowledge across first aid education,...

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