Episode 4 - Pat Gillen: Church Planting, Burnout, and the Identity No One Talks About

This isn’t a highlight reel.It’s an honest conversation about ministry, identity, burnout, leadership, and what happens when calling costs more than you expected.Pat Gillen shares the real story behind church planting, team failure, resilience, family pressure, and learning to trust God when success disappears. No hype. No formulas. Just lived experience and hard-earned wisdom.If you’re leading, pastoring, planting, or wondering who you are when the work falls apart—this one’s for you.