Episode 409: Muck up the Works

Ben is joined by the president of Diligence LLC and former CIA covert operations officer Mike Baker to discuss the NYTimes Op-Ed, lack of nuclear weapons at the North Korean military parade, and the future of cyber warfare. Start protecting your internet experience today with 66% off a 2 year plan by using code “TOPHAT” at http://NordVPN.com/tophat Acid Jazz Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/