EPISODE · Jan 16, 2026 · 56 MIN
Episode 41: Change Without Shame and Fear
from True You Podcast · host Bill Tierney and Martin Kettelhut
In this episode, Bill and Marty discuss their coaching methodologies and client relationships. They explore the demographics and evolution of their client bases, from financial advisors to leadership positions, and delve into ontological coaching versus Internal Family Systems (IFS) coaching. The conversation turns personal as Bill shares insights from a recent IFS session, addressing his relationship with food, body image, and the concept of pleasure and escape. Chapters:00:00 Introduction and Podcast Overview00:35 Coaching Approaches and Client Demographics02:50 Internal Family Systems (IFS) in Coaching04:17 Ontological Coaching vs. IFS Coaching06:01 Personal Journey with IFS08:50 Exploring Inner Conflicts and Parts13:23 Session Insights and Reflections24:26 Different Coaching Styles and Their Impact28:09 Introduction to Ontological Coaching28:38 Coaching Session Proposal29:30 Exploring Relationship with Food31:08 Comparing Addictions: Food vs. Substances35:41 Money Management as an Analogy38:22 Motivations for Change43:07 Identifying Underlying Issues48:09 Seeking Genuine Pleasure and Presence54:08 Conclusion and Next StepsLinks and Resources:• Contact Barti Bourgault - https://www.movebeyondtheedge.com/contact• True You Podcast Facebook Page - https://www.facebook.com/trueyoupodcast• If you would like to be a guest on the True You podcast, please complete this guest application: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdbHITeLbAD98TRhFPZzK2kStuHos5HFjOGBWAaTJjgVcEAGA/viewform • Internal Family Systems - https://ifs-institute.com/• Compassionate Results Coaching - https://www.compassionateresultscoaching.com/• Bill’s book, ‘Compassionate Results Guidebook’ - https://compassionateresultsguidebook.com• ‘Listening is the Key', Dr. Kettelhut’s website - https://www.listeningisthekey.com/• Marty’s new book, ‘Leadership as Relation’ - https://amzn.to/3KKkCZO• Marty’s earlier book, ‘Listen… Till You Disappear’ - https://amzn.to/3XmoiZd• Parts Work Practice - Free IFS Practice Group Sessions - https://www.partsworkpractice.com• Contact Marty - [email protected]• Contact Bill - [email protected]
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