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EPISODE · Aug 22, 2025 · 1H 7M

Episode 41 featuring Carol Dansereau

from UnMuted: the TransMuted Podcast · host Jenny Poyer Ackerman and Carol Dansereau

Carol Dansereau is an attorney, author, and advocate who spent 25 years working in the non-profit sector. That sector, which she now calls the Nonprofit Industrial Complex, gets its share of criticism on her eponymous Substack. So does the Unitarian Universalist Church where she and her partner, Bruce Lesnick, were active members until their views on sex and ‘gender’ were deemed problematic.I’ve been following Carol’s Substack for a couple of years, and I finally had to reach out after listening to her audio post from Feb. 7th, 2024 titled “Speaking to My Family and Friends,” in which she explains the facts of gender ideology to her own inner circle in a measured way that communicates good faith as well as I’ve ever heard it done to an audience that may be hearing the truth for the first time. It made a powerful impression on me and I wanted to know how it was received, since I’ve been thinking hard about why and how we need to talk about ‘trans,’ even in polite company.Carol’s partner Bruce Lesnick is a talented songwriter and performer whose recordings on Spotify are my newest downloads. With his permission, I chose a track called “Bad Guys” as the outro for this episode. It’s from Bruce’s 2004 album, “Firestorm.” I’m now a fan of the whole couple and think you might be, too!Links:Subscribe to Carol’s Substack, where you’ll find the posts we discuss, including:Speaking to My Family and FriendsBehold the Progressive Trans AllySchool Boards: Grooming Kids for an Orwellian WorldHitchhiker’s Guide to the Transgender Galaxy, Part 1 of 6There’s a lot more good, provocative writing there to check out.Find more music by Bruce Lesnick on Spotify or on Apple MusicCredits:‘Moonlit Sky’ (intro music) by William A. Ferguson‘Bad Guys’ by Bruce LesnickUnMuted logo art by Anne Gibbons This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit jennypoyerackerman.substack.com

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