Episode 44: Israel-Palestine with Ilan Pappe - an Israeli historian's analysis

Don't know much about Israel and Palestine? This is a really good place to start, navigated by the Chair of History at Exeter University, Ilan Pappe. Ilan Pappe was born in Israel to parents who fled Germany in the 1930s. He is a historian, author of The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine and (with Noam Chomsky) On Palestine. This episode features an interview with Ilan Pappe in which we talk about Zionism, anti-Semitism, whether Israel is an Apartheid state, settlements and the Christian Zionist movement. Laura, Malky and Jonty also talk about anti-Semitism and racism. It's a sad fact that we even feel we need to say this, but, since there are so many fascists out there, we do: don't come to this podcast because you believe in some Jewish conspiracy or have anti-Semitic feelings. You are not our friend. You are in error and on the side of evil and need to repent. We rebuke you. But if you, like us, believe that racism is evil, you're very welcome.   Check out these organisations Want to find out more about the situation? Christ at the Checkpoint is a conference where Christians deal with the reality and immorality of the Occupation. It's a great place to start.  Rabbis for Human Rights are an incredible group within Israel working for human rights of Palestinians and others to be recognised.  Breaking the Silence is made up of former soldiers in the Israel Defense Forces, people who have served in the Occupied Palestinian Territories.  Holy Land Trust is a Palestinian non-profit doing peace work and running awareness tours to help people understand the Israel-Palestine situation.  The Israeli Committee Against House Demolitions is an Israeli direct action group. opposing injustice against Palestinians.   About Beer Christianity Beer Christianity is a left-leaning, evangelical-adjacent Christian discussion podcast that often features interviews and always features a few drinks and laughs. Our aim is to be real, to be helpful and to be entertaining. Follow Beer Christianity on Twitter: @beerxianity and find us on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, YouTube and Stitcher.  Leave us a question or comment to be included in the podcast at: speakpipe.com/beerchristianity and we'll love you forever.  Beer Christianity also has a newsletter in which Jonty and guest authors comment on the news, theological issues and stuff that matters. Sign up to the Beer Christianity newsletter on Substack.  Jonty's Show With Music on Spotify is called New Old Music. Check it out if you like eclectic music and weird chat. It's not terribly serious.  All Beer Christianity shows and info available at http://beerchristianity.libsyn.com  We don't really want to preach at you, but some people like to know what we believe. It's this: Jesus Christ is the Son of God and came to teach us a better way to be while reconciling us to God and each other in a way we could never do without Him. He also changed water into wine. Nice.