Episode 44. Nick Smart (Trumpet) - 'Who's Standing In My Corner'

We're at the Royal Academy of Music in London with the internationally renowned jazz educator, trumpeter and conductor Nick Smart. Geoff talks to Nick about what it takes to run a top jazz course, why small intakes are designed around real working ensembles, and how the best training stays rooted in playing, listening, and learning tunes properly rather than hiding behind theory talk. Jazz standards can feel like a rite of passage Nick says, but they're really something more useful: a shared musical language that lets you walk into a room full of strangers and make honest music fast.We get specific about repertoire and improvisation: why standards are "non-negotiable", how the Academy builds a year-by-year repertoire list, and why a tune like ‘Autumn Leaves’ still earns its place as a first-step standard. We also dig into what to avoid early on: songs that are too fast, too chromatic, or too cramped to let younger players develop their ear and time feel. If you care about jazz practice techniques, jazz education, and learning standards in a way that actually sticks, this conversation is packed with grounded guidance.Geoff widens the conversation to talk about Kenny Wheeler: his humanity, his link to the tradition, and the Royal Academy's connection to his archive of handwritten scores. That leads to ‘The Lost Scores’ project, the long research trail through BBC programme records, the pandemic pause, and the eventual release of Kenny Wheeler Legacy: ‘Some Days Are Better:The Lost Scores’ (Greenleaf Music), complete with a Grammy nomination! We also talk nerves, privilege, craft, and what it means to keep doing the work when you spend so much of your life talking about music instead of playing it.If you enjoyed this, please subscribe, share the episode with a musician friend, and leave us a review so more listeners can find the podcast.Presenter: Geoff GascoyneSeries Producer: Paul SissonsProduction Manager: Martin SissonsThe Quartet Jazz Standards Podcast is a UK Music Apps production.