Episode 45: With guests John Gruber, Matt Drance, and lots of Heineken

What do you get when you put John Gruber, Matt Drance, and Jim Dalrymple in a room together with 24 Heineken? A podcast! Sponsor: Backblaze: Unlimited Online Backup Made Easy Peasy. Backup your Mac for just $5/month.

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