EPISODE · Mar 13, 2026 · 44 MIN
Episode 48: The Inspiration to Write
from True You Podcast · host Bill Tierney and Martin Kettelhut
In this episode, Bill and Marty discuss writing, coaching, and leadership. Marty shares how he first began writing seriously during his dissertation in Germany and reflects on discouraging academic feedback that shaped his path. They explore how his self-published book “Listen… Till You Disappear” grew from coaching entrepreneurs and his belief that deep listening is the foundation of business and leadership. Marty also talks about his book “Leadership as Relation” and his motivation to respond to today’s leadership crisis.Chapters:00:00 Listening Leads 00:39 Podcast Welcome And Writing 01:17 Marty’s Early Writing Roots 02:10 Mentors And Tough Feedback 03:12 Soul Crushing Criticism 04:18 Listen Till You Disappear 04:35 Listening Grows Business 06:09 Editor Partnership In NYC 07:21 Bill’s Sales Training Shift 09:15 Listener As Leader 10:36 Leadership As Relation Cover 12:09 Social Contract For Teams 14:01 Conflict And No Silos 17:07 North Star Triangle Model 18:22 Swimming And Marriage North Star 19:20 Landmark Inspiration Story 19:55 Landmark Breakthrough Proposal 22:44 Team Leadership Without Hierarchy 24:51 Accountability and Core Values 26:52 Why Leadership as Relation 31:11 Coaching for the Future 32:31 Analog Accountability Bridge 37:19 Writing the Beauty Book 38:08 Beauty as Relationship 39:28 Montana Awe and Context 43:43 Closing Reflections and FarewellLinks and Resources:• Traction, Gino Wickman – https://www.amazon.com/Traction-Get-Grip-Your-Business/dp/1936661837• A New Social Contract for Teams, Keith Ferrazzi – https://hbr.org/2022/09/a-new-social-contract-for-teams• True You Podcast Facebook Page -https://www.facebook.com/trueyoupodcast• True You Podcast Instagram Page -https://www.instagram.com/trueyou.podcast• If you would like to be a guest on the True You podcast, please complete this guest application: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdbHITeLbAD98TRhFPZzK2kStuHos5HFjOGBWAaTJjgVcEAGA/viewform• Internal Family Systems -https://ifs-institute.com/• Compassionate Results Coaching -https://www.compassionateresultscoaching.com/• Bill’s book, ‘Compassionate Results Guidebook’ - https://compassionateresultsguidebook.com• ‘Listening is the Key', Dr. Kettelhut’s website -https://www.listeningisthekey.com/• Marty’s new book, ‘Leadership as Relation’ -https://amzn.to/3KKkCZO• Marty’s earlier book, ‘Listen… Till You Disappear’ -https://amzn.to/3XmoiZd• Parts Work Practice - Free IFS Practice Group Sessions -https://www.partsworkpractice.com• Contact Marty [email protected]• Contact Bill [email protected]
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