Episode #50: The DUTCH Test Explained: Testing Hormones in Perimenopause and Menopause with Debbie Rice

In this podcast, Andrea Donsky, Nutritionist, Menopause Researcher and Educator, and co-founder of Morphus, interviews Dr. Debbie Rice, a Naturopathic doctor and the Assistant Medical Director of the DUTCH Hormone Test.Debbie explains what the DUTCH Test is, what it can reveal about your hormones, and how it can help women in menopause. Interested in taking a DUTCH Test? Email us at [email protected] DIM: https://bit.ly/46T2aIo Morphus Sleepus: https://bit.ly/3Q1SQvWMorphus Magnesium: https://bit.ly/43Agse200:00 Introduction to the DUTCH Test2:27 The difference between other tests and the DUTCH Test7:07 An explanation of hormone metabolites8:40 The answer to the question, can the DUTCH tell you if you are in perimenopause or menopause?12:37 When should we get the DUTCH Test14:51 Understanding cortisol, what it is, and how it relates to our experiences of symptoms in perimenopause and menopause18:16 How cortisol can interrupt sleep and what we can do about it.20:31 The role of melatonin in perimenopause and menopause.22:47 Estrogen and what happens to our hormones as we move through perimenopause and head towards menopause28:10 Metabolites E2, E4, E16 and why they’re important32:20 Can we guide our metabolites from the 4-OH to the 2-OH?34:24 Why liver support is crucial35:03 Final thoughts about the DUTCH Test38:32 Can you change the results of your DUTCH test with food and supplementationMorphus DIM: https://bit.ly/46T2aIo Morphus Sleepus: https://bit.ly/3Q1SQvWMorphus Magnesium: https://bit.ly/43Agse2Are you in perimenopause or menopause? Join our Wearemorphus PRIVATE group here: https://bit.ly/2MsxBBf ======🔔 S U B S C R I B E: https://bit.ly/2UTjmb0 ====== 🦋J O I N our email list: https://bit.ly/2y9bmwJ ====== // S O C I A L M O R P H U S ↙️ ▸ instagram | @wearemorphus | https://bit.ly/367EfWU ▸ facebook | /wearemorphus | https://bit.ly/2T8ySkM ▸ twitter | @wearemorphus | https://bit.ly/2Taqa5w ▸ email | [email protected] A N D R E A D O N S K Y ↙️ ▸ tiktok | @andreadonsky | https://bit.ly/2VMgiDK▸ instagram | @andreadonsky | https://bit.ly/2T9HojG ▸ facebook | /andreadonskyRHN | https://bit.ly/2WB4UYT ▸ twitter | @andreadonsky | https://bit.ly/3cDj5C9 ▸ linkedin | https://bit.ly/2TeraphSend us Fan Mail ======Morphus: Menopause Reimagined💊 Shop Morphus Supplements: https://wearemorphus.com/collections/all📖 Order "Nourishing Menopause: Powerful Nutrition & Lifestyle Strategies to Feel Your Best." (Simon & Schuster, May 5, 2026)Amazon Canada: https://amzn.to/4xaREJK Amazon US: https://amzn.to/4rFj7jk 📰 As seen in USA Today: https://bit.ly/43nrMwO  ✅ Fill out our surveys: https://bit.ly/4jcVuLh🦋 SUBSCRIBE to our list: https://bit.ly/3VdDA0VFOLLOW US: TikTok @andreadonsky & @wearemorphusInstagram: @wearemorphus | @andreadonskyFacebook: /wearemorphusDISCLAIMER: This is not medical advice. Always consult your healthcare provider. This podcast contains affiliate links; Morphus may earn a commission. Thank you for your support.