What the fuck is that? I believe it's going to be a good show. I'm feeling strong about it because I've been in New York in a few years, a couple of years since I've done a major stand-up event there and I'm going to be working on it. So if you can't be in New York and you want to see me work out some stuff, I'll be at the Trippity House at the Steve Allen Theater September 16th, 23rd and 30th and October 14th and 21st.
I'll be doing that stuff. I'm also doing some oddball dates. Look, you can go get all this information at WTFPod and look at the calendar section. But that's what's happening.
I haven't talked to you since Joan Rivers passed away and I didn't know Joan that well but I think she was one of the greatest real comedians that ever lived and I'm so glad that over the last few years she was so appreciated by so many people. I mean, she's been around a long time. She had an amazing career resurgence and I was privileged enough to do her talk show in bed with Joan Rivers. I was in bed with Joan Rivers and we had a great time.
She was a great lady and really a great, great stand-up comedian and it's sad and I feel like she had a long life and I know that there's some investigation going on about what happened at the hospital but she did have a good long life and she did do some amazing work and she will be missed and that's what I have to say about it. It's interesting because I do the show and when people pass away they want me to say something and I don't know what to say. It was horrible with Robin but thank God I had that interview to share with you guys and I was glad I had that but I didn't really know Joan and all I can say is that I thought she was an amazing comedian and a real force in nature and it's just sad. I don't know that there, sometimes there's this media feeding frenzy.
There's a fine line between a tribute and an exploitation of a sad event and it all happened so quickly and I just do what I can here and I share my feelings here. We lost a great comedian in Joan Rivers and that's how I feel about it and I'm glad she had a good long life and I'm glad that people appreciated her and she will be missed. So anyways, I want to thank the people of Nevada City for coming out to the show. I did two shows with Nick Thune up at the Nevada City Film Festival and I've never been to Nevada City and as some of you know, I think I've kind of talked about this before, anytime I go out of town to a place that seems reasonable and quiet and off the grid a little bit, I think, Jesus, why am I not living here?
Why can't I be a farmer? It's sort of an interesting town. I was only there for a day but apparently it was like the center of the Gold Rush Cluster Clock in Northern California and there's pieces of equipment, there's these giant water cannons and rock crushers that are from the turn of the century or whatever that happened. I do a little research but this was it.
This is where all those lunatic prospectors just went to destroy the mountains and find the nuggets. I imagine it determined a lot of the foundation of our monetary standard at that time. In my mind, what happened there was that they just extracted all the gold they could and entered that into the economic ecosystem and was part of the great definer of the American monetary system. That's how I'm going to frame it in my head because it seems to work for the analogy I want to make.
Now apparently, the big money-making business up in that part of the woods is weed. A lot of weed growers growing the legal weed, growing the prescription medicine weed but weed's a big business up in the hills around Nevada City to the point where, from what I understand, it's almost picking season and people come from around the world to be pickers. I get the feeling it's sort of like a stoner summer camp thing that just a bunch of kids from all around the world can go pick weed but it's really interesting to me that at one time they were mining gold out of those hills and that becomes sort of the foundation of American capitalism and now they're growing weed to ease us through the inevitable decline of what we've grown to know as the American economic system. Hey, things aren't working out.
All the gold is gone but how about some weed? So Anna Kendrick will be here shortly and I adore her and you'll probably hear that. I don't hide that well nor do I try to but I'll tell you something. She's in this movie Happy Christmas which is a Joe Swanberg movie.
It's in some theaters still and it's also on demand and on iTunes and I'll tell you I saw it and he went out of his way to shoot this film on 60mm film which I hadn't seen in a long time. Do you remember the last time you saw an indie film shot on film? I mean maybe I don't notice it but I would think I would but I was very impressed with the spirit of the movie. I was fortunate enough I was up in and I'll talk to Anna about this a bit but I was up in San Francisco and I went to a screening and the screening before the one I went to he was talking on Skype and he was a lovely guy and he had a lot of thoughts about why he does the films I've never seen a Joe Swanberg movie and Happy Christmas was the first one I'd seen and he does all improvised films and since then I watched his movie Drinking Buddies and I think there's a real honesty to his work and I think he's a great filmmaker I've not really seen the work of a filmmaker that intimate and with that kind of feeling and the fact that he did this film improvised which means it was outlined and shot on film I mean it just raises the stakes a little bit I mean all these actors had to know you know with video you can just shoot take after take after take and the moments get lost and a lot of times I think you're seeing something that might be over rehearsed usually you're hopefully seeing the best moment but who knows and it really looked different it was really refreshing to me to see something shot on film and knowing that the stakes were heightened a little bit and it's also kind of wild to me that just how many expectations one brings to a film from being pummeled their entire life by mainstream films there are moments in the film where I'm thinking like something menacing is going to happen and it doesn't it's just the emotional ebb and flow of these characters and I'm always a little sort of fucked up when my brain works like that because even when I was just in Nevada City I was put up in a small cabin and because I see too many movies there was no fucking way I was going to be able to sleep in a cabin by a creek in a lovely little town that used to be a prospector town God knows what kind of murders and horrible things went on there God knows who's wandering the hills God knows if one of those dreadlocked lunatics that I gave stink eye to at Ikes I don't know what's going to happen and I'm not an old man like that but you never know what's inside of people you never know when a ghost is just going to come and ruin your life got to be careful ghosts will do that so alright so again I was nervous I don't know why I get nervous people are just people but Anna Kendrick is a special person and I was thrilled that she came by the garage so let's talk to her now what did you do for a workout?
I went to one of those classes for you know it's a ballet base it's just pain it's just searing behind the eyes ballet based yeah it makes you question do I want to be in shape? is it that important? right now my body is telling me to stop my body is telling me that I'm going to murder this instructor and her whole family I get that a lot I'm going to kill you I hate you instructor thing it's always the best instructor she's great I want to die but it's ballet is it a special thing? I don't really know the ballet thing might be kind of a gimmick it's just the usual stuff lift your leg until it hurts until you want to kill me yoga-ish do you know ballet?
I mean I danced when I was a little kid but I was never good I grew up in Maine there are people in Maine who are excellent dancers and there are people who take it really seriously and I was just not very good right I went to see something at BAM yeah that was really good it's wild isn't it? I get emotional oh no dance is like everything to me if I could do anything if you could like magically you know does anybody ever ask you if you could be the best in the world something but no one could ever know about it a secret best in the world thing? yeah for sure I'm going to be dancing because it's so emotional and beautiful and expressive and to be able to express yourself I mean that's all we ever do I just want to be able to express what's going on inside of me and dancers can do that and their bodies are instant it's so pure expressing myself through comedy that's just an exercise in hostility and repressed anger and in hiding things it's like a trick in acting you can inhabit someone else but dancing but it's still through someone else and it's sort of within all the machinations of filmmaking and what that means the dancing is just sort of like we're here we're doing it I cry every time I see it I cry at musicals though yeah I mean I enjoy crying in any dark computer really for any reason it might have nothing to do with the movie but there's something about dance and about people singing that just kills me and it shouldn't even if it's a happy song if there's many people singing it and they're moving around on stage and it's happy I'm like oh god how are they so open yeah I do it sometimes it's very frightening it's horrifying to me oh oh oh you mean like publicly yeah I've done it I feel okay about it and I feel like once I got through that initial peer I feel pretty good about it because I can sing okay but horrifying, terrifying why is that? I go up there and I don't know why I'm asking but maybe you can give me some well I'm not you know I don't you know you can sing but I don't like sing publicly and I certainly don't I have sung publicly a couple of times in the last couple of years but sort of like I sang at the Kennedy Center for Shirley MacLean was getting her Kennedy Center as I sang in that but that was but again totally big gig totally it was amazing I wanted to throw up I was so scared and I was with like Broadway veterans in my like group you know honoring Shirley MacLean and we were all like shit scared we were backstage because we learned it all in like 24 hours what was the song?
my song was it's not where you start it's where you finish and this was the song she had sung? yes yes so that wasn't exactly like me expressing something inside of myself and saying like I want you to see who I am and like does the audience accept me like that was not going on so that was mostly just like hey like you know hope your voice sounds good don't try anything fancy that you haven't done in rehearsal don't get that like hyped up audience thing I think it's a separate thing like your fear of yes exactly like I think like anything else if you get comfortable singing it's not as risky like there's something very embarrassing about singing badly or singing out of note out of key you know it's hard to come back from that's sort of how I feel about anything athletic though I think they're not a dissimilar feeling where it's not exactly like expressive to say but I just feel like oh I'm just I just don't deserve to be on the third I can't throw I should die I'm terrible I'm a bad person but you did get scared who were the veterans you were with? Sutton Foster Bettina Miller Karen Oliveau these are all Broadway people it's so weird that was always a thing for you you have a tremendous amount of respect for Broadway in general I think later in the evening I had some tipsy drunken tearful thing with Sutton where I was like he was fucking me I'm just a fool but is that how you started becoming interested in acting? yeah when I was very young you took two stage stuff yes in Portland, Maine I know Maine I do I started my comedy career in Boston I used to do one-nighters all over Maine I once drove from Boston to Machias, Maine you don't even know where that is it's fucking nuts to do a college gig opening for a hypnotist that is the furthest point east in the United States driving up that coastline where things get weird and the jean pool gets tighter and it's trippy man it's a beautiful state but I'm well-traveled I've done it I know Portland yeah you've been everywhere not everywhere but I did a lot of weird gigs out there but I have been a lot of places but Maine like Portland that's a real city it's nice yeah Portland was amazing I realized the more of the country that I see the more I realize that I'm really lucky that I grew up in Portland because I just assumed that a greater population automatically translated to more of an art scene sometimes the opposite yeah yeah because Portland's like 65,000 people or it was when I lived there but I've been to places I won't name names or anything but I've been to places that I've been really depressed being there and I'm like looking at I thought this was a big city well the weird thing about art scenes is sometimes even if it's in a bigger city certain types of creative communities just feel like they're marginalized so it's not like a thriving art scene it's a bunch of angry people in a weird theater going like fuck no one's coming to our show how many siblings you got?
I got an older brother who actually works at a home oh really? in Brooklyn? that's a cool place yeah how'd you grow up? what were your folks doing?
my mom is an accountant and my dad was a history teacher history teacher at your school? well he was a substitute teacher and he would kind of get long term gigs when teachers would go on sabbatical so he was sort of all over the place occasionally I think maybe twice he actually taught a class that I was in which was understandably weird but that was like kind of short term substitute teaching situation but he taught French for a year at the all girls school in our area did you speak French? I could in high school it was pretty good but man it just disappears if you don't work that muscle it's just so you grew up with like fairly well I don't know accounting but that's a little specific but I always pictured that if someone has a teacher as a parent that they're at least open minded and you know history teacher and supportive oh yeah no they were I mean my parents were very very supportive and very artistic and opened me up to a lot of stuff my mom is more into the visual arts which I could never get a handle on yeah I mean I can't even draw a figure it's really but are you able to appreciate it? oh yeah I mean and she does she draw?
yeah yeah she draws and she paints but my dad was more into theater and stuff very into the Irish drama of the world really? yeah I mean we saw McDonough play Beauty Clean of Lanon when I was 12 and we just like it was actually kind of amazing because my mother watched me and my dad and my brother just laugh hysterically at Beauty Clean of Lanon and she was like you guys are fucking sick you are disgusting is he Irish? yeah he is? they're sort of heavy people yeah exactly like Irish poetry and Irish theater it's like ugh but on the other side they seem to know I'd have a good time yeah no very I think very into dark humor and finding humor like Alice humor yeah it's been rough for them over there it's a very beautiful place but it's been hard yeah exactly I just noticed your what the fuck ring?
who fashioned that for you? some dude a fan a fan? you get jewelry from fans? I get all kinds of shit from fans do you get stuff like that?
come on you get stuff I get some stuff yeah yeah I can't even imagine the stuff you get okay okay there's no way of shit there's no way of telling the story that doesn't make me sound like a dick because once it's on the internet it's impossible to get rid of it so a couple people for my birthday they include in the message like I'm sorry if this is an invasion of privacy well it is it is and if you would have just sent it through the appropriate channels it would have been a lot sweeter and less creepy but anyway a couple people sent things like a teddy bear and stuff like that and I sort of just on principle you send it to my home and it's not appropriate and I just kind of get rid of it and I don't even want to give it to a friend because you never know if there's anthrax in a teddy bear I don't know and no there's probably not but it just goes in the trash it's too weird to be like oh well you know my friend my friend has a baby I'm sure he loves this teddy bear no, no I don't want to be wasted but it goes in the trash and I got one that was a long letter about how he really felt like we should be together and if I would just give him a chance and he didn't want to do it over social media because he thought that would pressure me because it would be public and I'm like sure but then he sent it to my house he wants to do it right yeah exactly he wants to be a gentleman and he sent me a pair of diamond earrings get the fuck out of here for real ones for real diamond earrings but I did go in check I was just like these have to go in the trash I cannot wear them I can't give them to someone it's too weird on principle if the teddy bear goes in the trash these go in the trash so you have to throw away so if you send it to my house it's going in the trash go through the appropriate channels where I can go through the proper security vetting and we can test the teddy bear for anthrax and they'll make their way to Anna also, also I don't like to look too much into it if something becomes a problem I have had people I've hired someone to investigate someone because this one guy was getting really psycho but mostly I just don't think about it and that's been fine so far so until that changes but do you imagine if I kept a earring and then I'd have to marry this guy no, there'd be no other way you'd have to go on you know where I live come on, don't be a pussy now it's tricky because you're one of those type of actresses that has a vulnerability and you seem kind of accessible and you're kind of quirky so I'm sure there's a ton of guys who are just like oh, she's so perfect it's funny you say that because I have had a number of guys when I was with a gentleman come up to me and say oh, just so you know you're on my list of five people because my girlfriend and I have five people that we can sleep with and I just kind of like oh, what a coincidence glad to make the list but it's funny because at first it feels like kind of very flattering that I, you know but at the same time I feel like no one would go up to Jessica Biel and say that like you say that to like Ellen Page because she seems like sweet and accessible and lovely and you feel like oh, she'll like laugh and think that this is cute well, I'll be honest with you I saw Jessica Biel recently on a plane and I was, you know I couldn't ever talk to her at all no, no, no, no I met her very, very briefly and I was just like how are you doing that? yeah, whatever you're like just sitting there how are you just sitting there like you do? it's fucking crazy it's like magic it's like black magic it's some weird birth thing like there are these people that are born into the world and you see them on the street and you're like oh, thank you that I got to see you today thank you for being some rare animal you're like oh, there's one don't get me that goof and we'll be able to watch her for a little longer but yeah, I can see Ellen and you and like there's Janine's like that Janine has like when I work with Garofalo you know, you just get these flocks of dudes and oddly they don't look threatening because they don't look like they get out much a lot of them and it's endearing but you never know when one of them is going to right, you never know which one is crazy but also the fact that that listening I mean, that's also basically saying like fuck you you're into it you're into it I thought about you in the shower at least once this morning I'm kind of mad I did because I didn't get rid of you so I'm kind of done for today but tomorrow but alright, so you're that girl for a lot of people you're sort of sweet mission accomplished yeah, you did it alright, so you're growing up in Portland and how does the first break come, are you a good student because you started very young acting yeah, I was like a pretty good student kind of A's and B's situation I wasn't like when you've got a dad as a teacher you're going to go either way you're going to fuck it all over at least you did pretty much yeah, I did pretty much and I started I mean, I did like community theater when I was little like how little though because it seems like you were like insanely young I think I did my first play I did Annie I was one of the orphans when I was like six right, where, in Portland? in Portland, yeah I mean, you know real like local productions and stuff real productions, yeah and then I did like a couple more kind of regional theater things and then I auditioned for some stuff on Broadway when I was like 10 so you're parents for swiping you down in New York yeah, yeah I mean, I think they were like the way that I've come to think of it is that they were sort of bewildered but supportive so they were like into it and helpful and they like would drive me down for auditions and at first people my like, you know this agent that was like a children's agent that was willing to take me on like wanted to send me up for commercials and stuff and oh man, was I bad at that really?
when you were a kid like you know like that I'm kind of amazed that I didn't just go like yeah, okay, you want me to stand here and be like L'Oreal Kid Shampoo is the greatest circles, whatever I was like, why would I be this excited about shampoo? you're already thinking like an actor can you give me some direction is there some way to get me excited? no, and casting directors would like when you would be I don't know if you've done like a lot of commercial auditions but when you're in like a group of like six well for me kids you wouldn't be in a group of six kids you know when you're in a group of six kids they're like Mark please stop coming in this L'Oreal Shampoo is for kids, it's for children I know but I should have a right ages yeah, exactly so I would be like in a group of six kids and they would specifically like call me out for being like Anna you know look down at their little card of who's in the room and be like Anna can you be like a little more excited and a little more happy and I would kind of just try to do it but I was like what the fuck is going on I'm sorry I cannot get behind this shampoo but I mean it wasn't like out of some sense of superiority or anything I just was like how can they do this how can they like just be on and I can't you weren't cut out for that you're lucky in a way so I stopped going to commercial auditions and only audition for like musicals because at that age like you know one thing there were some girls who could be really excited about shampoo and I could like fill a room with sound and I don't mean that to be like 12 year old retroactive bragging but for such a small person I had a pretty big voice so mostly then we stopped coming like six hours to audition for some commercial and we would only come down for Broadway musical stuff or national tours and stuff like that it wasn't like only Broadway for me but just anything with singing because I feel like oh I actually have a shot and that's why I imagine your mom was like you go in for those commercials you're like in and out in like two minutes and you just go six hours and then they're like well you want to get lunch in the city but exactly like that you know my parents worked full time and so eventually my brother and I would go together and he was 14 and I was 12 and we would take great home buses and what was the first gig the first gig was High Society which was on Broadway and how old were you I was 12 and that was huge right yeah I mean it was huge for me the show only ran like six months but I was nominated for 20 awards so that was obviously like enormous for me that was it all eyes on you yeah I mean at the time I still didn't really understand what the fuck was happening like if I did a show at this age I was nominated for 20 I would like weep and it would be amazing whereas at the time I was like awesome somebody thought I did a good job it's amazing can I do it again now but like now I don't know if you have this but like if you want a job and like all you want to do is just like get the job with the job and then you get it and then the new fear sets in of oh what if I'm not good and you know like getting the job feels like the challenge and then you get it and then the whole new wave of anxiety sets in of like oh I'm going to be bad in it and maybe like I was like they only hired me they couldn't get so and so oh you still go through that oh yeah and also now the pressure's on because you know you're a known thing so you're actually competing against yourself yeah yeah yeah like one hit wonder sort of thing well just sort of like you know you have but I think you seem to be someone who's very in control and understands your talent but it's surprising to me that you still you feel like like you're actually getting something by default because I know that happens but I wouldn't think what happened to you oh yeah I mean like you heard stories where it's like that was originally offered to well I think people are very careful to make sure that that kind of information doesn't get around they're trying to protect you don't fuck with her confidence she's doing so well you have a team of people to protect you from yourself and knowing these things but some people and some people's teams are like they have a different relationship and they're very open about like oh you know they offered it to so and so yeah you blew it she got it yeah and then like oh well they didn't want it so actually they're going to offer it to you and I'm like that I would be like I would just curl up in a ball in the trailer and not be able to do it and be like they wanted fucking you could stop picturing that person doing it how they would do it how their choice would handle it I end up like doing some weird Jessica Biel impression I'm studying tape of her they wanted her I think that I'm not in the same game as you are but like there's that idea that it was offered to so and so and they took it and then like yeah that type of insecurity where you actually are like well maybe I can be better like they are maybe that's horrible so you go for the Tonys and then like do you like I don't know the exact trajectory of your career but I mean what happens between the Tonys and Up in the Air I did a couple more like sort of workshops for like new Broadway shows which is as it turned out was a mistake because at that age you would just outgrow it by the time it went to stage but the bottom line was is that because of the Tonys nomination and your performance you were integrated into that community as a force to be reckoned with at the age you were at yeah yeah and you got opportunities to learn exactly exactly so I was also like I had plenty of time in between I had like a totally normal like high school experience yeah I mean like I would go to the city to audition for stuff but like you know you had regular friends and you had driving around with boys sure yeah no boys really liked flat chested theater nerds let me tell you so basically you're attracting the same men now that you were in high school yeah yeah I think also part of it is truly I was sort of terrified of boys growing up so you were really kind of nerdy yeah yeah well I don't I mean yeah well I wasn't like I wasn't like socially comfortable that's for sure I mean I don't want to be like I don't want to say I'm nerdy for cred I'm not going to let you I will question your nerd credibility but you were a theater girl and that's its own thing so in high school you were singing and dancing and you were hanging out with guys who were confused and that was its own world like the people I talk to that come from that I think it's sort of sweet because it is its own community and there is a sort of interest around expressing yourself I think there's a real gift to the theater nerd life in high school as opposed to competing on the big social field of you know where people get just brutalized at least if you're a theater nerd and the jocks and the bros and the cheerleaders mock you you can at least seek strength in the other fragile people who are working on the production and like with any group of people in any town you know there's like there would be jerks on the football team and nice guys on the football team I don't know I didn't fucking know them was there much theater football crossover the one guy no no none and similarly like there were some really amazing people in our theater program who you know like challenged me and were interesting and there were some jerks and some like idiots and you know challenged you how? well our drama we had a drama coach who like did our who like directed the school plays and stuff and then there was a drama teacher for like a course in our school and the drama teacher was really nice and great and the drama coach hated me and some cast me and she hated me oh really?
didn't you know that? did you true? yeah I mean I think were you too talented? she sort of cursed at me a lot I mean she was really kind of unkind was she bitter?
I it's she's still there is that why you're protecting her? I don't know I have no idea where she is that's not an interesting but I think she used to like say crazy stuff like she used to be like well I would have been a Broadway actress if I hadn't had kids and she would say it in front of her kids and it was like what's the fault man? she was completely bitter I guess yeah what do you mean guess at that sentence in itself? so there was a competitive thing because like it's those kind of adults that fuck people up for life it felt like that a little bit at the time at the time I was like no no she's just not casting me because there are people who are better like I'm just not getting you know she's not putting me in the place this is that you did Broadway and were nominated for Tony but I think she was very good at whatever that like domineering teacher thing is that makes you think oh well she knows she knows best and okay and then she would dole out like a little bit of encouragement and it would just keep you high for like a week and then she would you know she was a horrible mean person that's what she was she's just like here you go you're doing great but even now for me to look back on it like if somebody told me that that had happened to someone else I'd be like oh that person was just being like a bitch but for me there's still part of my brain that's like oh she's still in there I would keep an eye on that part of your brain that's the part of your brain that'll get you in a really bad relationship and stay in it for a long time and so then I I ended up I graduated from high school early so I could go to New York did you have a high school boyfriend?
no I had a high school crush like a big fat stupid crush like all consuming crush with a theater guy? he was kind of a theater guy was he a loner guy? yeah and I was like I think that is a theme that has followed me around which is like that people who are quiet and boring to me is like oh he's tortured and beautiful and that followed me around for a while I think I got rid of that but that's been a fun theme for me you like guys that talk now? yeah big fan of verbal communication but graduated and went to New York to do a little night music at New York City Opera now did you see this that was you were okay with the idea or maybe gunning for the the life of a stage actress?
yeah that was what you wanted? yeah I mean all I ever wanted like was to make a living like yeah in whatever form that took and for a long time and once I moved to LA I was like oh if I could just get on a show then I would just you know like be like on a crime procedural where maybe I got to make a joke really like that would be like I just wanted to do the job and then like also keep the lights on did you study? did you go to college? or did you no I started I mean I started when I was 12 and I had like a handful of bad experiences with acting coaches that I went to what kind of bad experiences?
just where I just felt like this is about you showing me what you would do and I think there are I'm sure that there are acting programs and acting coaches who are incredible and giving and open and I happen to have like three in a row that were just like showing me like what they would do because you seem to have this amazing natural talent I mean if you can do song and dance already that's like you know an entire two years of acting school you don't need like if you can do it what do you need to take movement class for? I don't know I mean part of me is curious like what would it be like to take a movement class? like what do they learn? I don't know but then part of me it's just getting to do it like I've learned so much because I've gotten to work like I learn by working it's not like I've been learning like sitting in front of my computer on Reddit like I don't you know you only learn by doing it and you know and so if you're not working then yeah get in class because you're just like figuring it out so you're in New York and you're doing stage work so the Tony nomination was huge and that changed the whole game well yeah I mean but then of course there was like a period where you know I think going through puberty and stuff I was like oh okay so do I am I like still auditioning for like children's parts you're going to have Judy Garland square you're going to play a famous child and then be a cabaret singer so there was part of me that was worried about like just being like like you know Daisy Egan won a Tony when she was like 10 years old and she I think is still working but there was a long period where she kind of couldn't get arrested right like what are you going to do in a child phenomenon once you can't be cast as a kid so I was like oh I'm like a 14 year old husband and you know that was all that was fun um what changed it um well it wasn't like it certainly wasn't like a like one event that i can point to like i after the music i did a pilot that's what got me to la i auditioned for i oh i had done i had done this movie camp that was like directed by a theater guy and had all musical theater kids in it and um this casting director had seen that and i was in la he had me auditioned for rocket science and i did rocket science and that movie nobody saw that movie but filmmakers saw that movie right so uh i got up in the air based on that really was written on rocket science on rocket science yeah yeah a movie that nobody saw but like jonathan levine who directed 50 50 and wrote up near for me after um after seeing science like it's you know it's it's just funny the way people are like so so then you get up in here and of course like there was there was stuff like it's like a funny change of events i think so so often you don't understand what the opportunity when you're in it yes and then um and you look back on it you're like holy crap that was when you got it did you feel did you feel ready i mean were you like okay here we go i mean i can do this oh no i thought it was a mistake i thought i legit when i got the job like because my agent's like we think you're gonna get an offer like on monday and i was like guys you were not in that room with me it did not go well but i wrote it for you but i didn't know that okay like so i thought he didn't like me i was like okay thank you very much like thank you for the opportunity to come in and reach you whatever i was like okay great you know driving home from santa monica like and um and uh the long ride after this i was like what yeah exactly so brutal doing it again in your head like oh god why didn't i play it more but like the entire time i was just waiting for them to be like here's the thing yeah like yeah it's not going well hey you know uh they really liked you that weird tone yeah they thought you did a great audition but so what what was the call um well they just like told me like they said like on a friday they were like we think you're gonna get an offer on monday they like heard through channels and i was like i don't think you're correct like um and and when you're even told you you're probably gonna get an offer you're getting an offer right but i was like no like don't tell me that it's not gonna happen and then they called me and said like yeah it's happening um so then like but you know the first like week i was just like what am i doing like this is crazy and george was so nice and um no i didn't meet him until we were uh on set together but there was the first thing that we shot together we were standing we're doing kind of a walk and talk and we were standing waiting to go and he was like do you get nervous i get nervous i was like oh my god that was like the smallest the smallest thing but just like opened up my whole world you know he's a pro yeah total pro i mean he probably does that for everybody but he can tell that like they're like what am i doing here like i don't belong here like just a couple words from him and you're like oh my god he's a person i'm a person weird to say yeah because like he knows that i mean not in an arrogant way but he knows that he makes people nervous well he's george clooney like he knows that you've got to be standing going like that's fucking george clooney like right there yeah but your performance that was so amazing what when you work with somebody like him who i think is you know an amazing movie star and an amazing actor i mean what do you how else did he make you comfortable i mean what did you learn from that dynamic i mean as opposed to working with i mean i think like looking back on it i think there were times that he could tell that i was like in my head overthinking and um there was a uh there was a day when i was really in my head about a scene that we were about to do and he was like throwing nerf footballs around and like intentionally kind of hitting me and stuff like which at the time i was genuinely like bro i'm trying to get you know i'm getting in the scene and stuff but you know it was like you need to like snap out of it a little bit and then there was a day when we were shooting uh the scene where um i'm sitting across from the computer screen i'm firing guy with the computer for the first time it's like an older guy and um and uh george was sitting next to me and he sat there next to me all day like i couldn't move i was like sucked it was like such a complicated heavy scene and um they were like moving camera equipment stuff and i like just was sitting there and he sat next to me like kind of just like feeling me out and like he would do the scene with me like at one point i was like oh can you run lines with me and he just like immediately did the scene with me and i didn't realize until later like you know he's like a fucking movie star he could just fucked off and you know called a trailer gone like you know whatever let alone like run a scene with me that he's not even i mean he's there but he you know he ran the other guys lines with me oh really you know like so that kind of like generosity was you know something i think about all the time like if he can be that generous like everybody should be able to do that right right that's that's amazing amazing story and i think like so all at the same time you're doing you get up in the air and you're doing the twilight thing and then like that was a pretty big few years for you and scott pilgrim just like the twilight thing now i can't even imagine the type of fans you have no no i didn't mean when you said that i kind of laughed i didn't mean to but um because we were shooting um a scene for pitch perfect in this like kind of crazy house in louisiana and they put our just now the picture too yeah yeah and they um they put us uh in this room uh you know we're holding like you know all the girls that hang out in there and the the daughter was like a big a big fan and like this room has blank spaces on the wall and that room had no blank spaces on the wall there's a lot of art in this room this room was covered floor to ceiling with twilight stuff and i was like this is maybe where i die i don't know um but i mean you know like i didn't uh i didn't actually meet the girl but you know i heard that like her thing to her mom was like i could be like uh into heroin or you know like so i'm into twilight what's the big fucking deal and if that's her attitude then cool like whatever you're into like it's a little intense you should know that it's a little aggressive when like and people might get the wrong idea when they come to your room but like if your attitude is just like this is what i'm into so soon be like fantastic whatever but it is but it is visually aggressive so you're doing the second pitch perfect movie and that movie was very popular again with i think a different type of teenage girl than twilight yes so you're covered there's a fair amount of crossover i mean yeah i think maybe just as the twilight girls were growing up and growing out of that then you know did you ever see yourself as like it seemed to me that in looking at yourself that you would be this this pop star i mean that that song would blow up it's actually really funny i was talking to and um and i had said that i was gonna do your show because i really liked his um episode yeah and we talked about that a little bit and then i started talking about this this thing that happens with the twilight fans and with the pitch perfect fans where part of me genuinely feels whenever like children come up to me and they're like hi as though i'm mickey mouse at disney i'm like what are you doing get away from me i'm terrible like inside i'm like this 75 year old grizzled man like oh children everything like the sun get it out like and i like part of me is genuinely like has to remind myself like oh right like you have to be like on okay for when you're like a little girl but i was like because um you don't have to be like you should say that to mark marion because i was like oh my god yeah it's like if you suddenly found yourself in a situation like little kids are like oh my gosh mr marion can i talk to you you would be like why get away from me i would talk to their parents and say like you shouldn't that's how i feel i'm like don't let your child near me i'm like have you listened to what i do i'm the worst yeah but you know that like you know if kids were coming up to me from you know based on what i put out in the world i would have to question their parents's permissiveness yeah and i'd also feel back with the kid and i'd probably like look i'm gonna try to help you out save you a little time because if you're identifying with me at this age it's gonna be hard yeah but for you i imagine that what you know i don't enjoy the experience it's not like oh like these kids it's not like i have i'm getting something bad out of that experience i'm just like i'm just like oh my god what could they possibly want from me right because you there's always gonna be that separation between the role and you and they only know the role yeah so like it's weird i guess as a person with that type of celebrity you know you could choose to be a dick but but but you know why not just be like oh hi you know but because they can't really censor unless you spend a lot of time with them and if you're spending a lot of time with your child fans is it yeah all right so but the pop star thing now is that something are you making more records no no you don't want to do that it's big though i mean that song's big yeah yeah absolutely and and i i would rather have one big accidental hit song than like make a record i don't like write songs i don't you know okay it's not for me that's fine i do want to talk about happy christmas oh and i do want to talk about the movie we're both in when's that fucking coming out oh my god what the fuck happened i know that's so brian cranston came up to me at comic-con was like what happened in the movie marcia gay hardin came up to me at this like charity event was like what happened in that movie everybody is like what are we how many people he had everyone in the movie i mean i'm not anybody but i did one scene in it i played the sweezy hotel man oh and and jay pharaoh when i did snl jay pharaoh was like what is that movie coming out like that's crazy when is it coming out i don't think it is bro i think it's just like it's like a mystery it's like gonna never ever ever what's one of those things at this point like it's been too like it was a very like kind of topical comedy and all you young guns were in it and now you're all like you know middle-aged people like miles miles teller i know now like it's supposed to be like we're fresh out of college right that's weird because it seemed like a big budget movie what was the name of that director he was like the only kid great director yeah it was like it was crazy it's crazy that that can happen like why they wouldn't just i mean i how bad could it be or what happened i've heard several explanations about like the you know distribution companies being split up and you know it's just in limbo and whatever but yeah part of me is like but not even on dvd i don't it's crazy because it's just like somebody must want to make some money back no you would think i mean everyone was fucking in it it's weird like all you guys i'm lumping you into with everybody but but uh yeah miles teller you cransman yeah that's crazy well we'll see what happens so now like i went and saw happy christmas at the roxy in san francisco it was kind of wild because i was i was with somebody up there and we were just on vacation and i'm like let's go see it and we get there and it was the the program directors last night and they skyped in joe schomburg for an interview no way for q a so like i didn't say anything because i came in at the end of that viewing but he actually did this q a over skype with a small audience yeah and i felt really bad because i was like doing um pitch perfect and i couldn't you know promote it i thought i was such a douche well then like he like i don't know a lot of his movies but he's sort of the mumblecore guy and he sort of developed this thing and he like when i heard him speaking you know he went out of his way to shoot it on actual film and you can feel that yeah like i knew i noticed when i watched it i haven't felt that in a while it doesn't make a difference there's immediacy to the performances and there's a tone to the actual film itself that you know it's uh it's its own thing it felt like a real little movie and it had that that kind of rawness to it but for you to choose how'd that come about because your performance is great and i like the movie a lot but it's so contrary to anything else that you're doing yeah um i uh well i had basically i'm sorry um i had made uh i had made pitch perfect and i made get a job yeah i was just sort of feeling like i'd made two movies that were um uh like almost almost kind of safe and so uh this night is at this site meeting with joe and i felt really um kind of freaked out about doing a movie that was all improv and i thought that was never done that no no no all improv like there's no paper involved right but you've done improv scenes before sure sure i mean but but no more than you know than most people like a third take yeah yeah like you know and do alts you know it's not really like exactly the same right um and he was talking about making drinking buddies and um and part of me was like this is terrifying you shouldn't do this and then you know i was like i sort of really genuinely went into it thinking like it's okay to fail like it's okay if you're bad at this and it's okay if the movie's not like incredible and like that will be okay like the world won't end if you fail and did you like his movies though yeah i liked his movies and i that was that attitude was mostly coming from i just literally had no idea what it would be like to do a movie where it's pointed a camera at you and you you know like okay great so you knew how he worked i mean that was where i learned and i had such a great time on that that the day that we wrapped he was like hey do you want to make this movie in december for like even smaller budget like a quarter of the budget did he shoot that one on film as well i don't think he did because he sort of made a point to really say that he was doing it so that was normally you just can't afford it you know and and with with happy christmas uh the budget was something like 80 grand and all of it went to the film so right you know and the rest of it we shot it in his house and i wore my own clothes and i did my own makeup and you know we like drinking buddies just i mean i haven't seen that but it's not really that old of a film no no we shot drinking buddies in august and shot happy christmas in december so the experience with working with joe swamber it was so it was so good that like i didn't even i hadn't even seen a cut of drinking buddies before we made happy christmas but you so you like the experience so much because the character in uh happy christmas is endearing but troubled yes the character in drinking buddies is very um together and sort of the most together person in the film um and very sure of herself which she just she not sure of herself but she just knows who she is and she knows what's going on and so i was really excited that joe wanted me to play someone who was so um lost well i mean it's also it must be an amazing exercise as an actress where you're at in your acting career and having done the stuff that you've done to really do something new and challenge yourself as an actor yeah i mean i've really never played somebody who's a total mess and i was excited that joe saw that saw that i mean i saw that i was capable of that and um and really excited to do it because i feel like that's it was it was scary yeah but um i feel like that is something that i really wanted to like explore and play with and also working with melanie i mean she's she's amazing she's heaven you know i don't see her enough yeah yeah she's an incredible person and actress and it was i mean a total privilege like she was the first person that joe mentioned about you know to play his wife and i was like oh are you kidding because she was up in the air but we didn't get to work together so i was so excited but i you know i thought she was just lovely but and i think she's so talented but um we you know never interacted so i was so excited to be able to do scenes with her and what did you learn about yourself or about you know acting in general from you know working with her and working in that situation because when i saw joe swanberg you talk about the the actual idea that that's the way film was made at some other point in time where you had to really kind of be deliberate and you didn't have a million takes and you had to you sort of had to get it and i did you find yourself like in the back of your head because i know you're working in a limited way i do television you're like what does it cost to do another take why not do 20 who gives a shit right you know we're not burning anything with time it's not we're not burning film stock so did you have that in the back of your head were you aware that like we're not going to do this again well there were there were sort of two things going on which was absolutely bad and also that um the my character in drinking buddies the challenge was knowing when to listen because i thought the hardest thing about doing movies like this would be coming up with stuff to say you know someone's like oh we're gonna do a movie and the entire thing's improv your brain first goes to like oh what if i can't think of like right you know how to move the scene forward and what to say and how to be charming and funny and stuff like that and actually it's really easy to just you know run your mouth and fill time right and it was challenging to know when to just be still here we are um when to be still and when to listen and especially because i was playing someone who um is really comfortable with herself which is uh which is you know hard for me to play um that i that was sort of the challenge on that movie what would you put in place to do that what in your mind um i based my character on my sister-in-law um and just behaviorally and you know when there were moments in your mind where you're like oh what'd she say that yeah no she's just well she's a teacher and you know my character is a teacher and she teaches um all levels of um special needs in like an inner city school and she just has this like uh well of patience and you know and i just i'm you know very impressed by her as a human being so um i just tried to like channel liza um and then the trick for uh happy christmas became oh i can actually i should be like the only time because this character can't shut up doesn't know like when shut up but then of course the risk is that it's a deeply personal process and you end up saying something that is like oh i just put that on film for the whole world to see so not only was it like oh we don't get too many chances to do this it's like i my objective is to not self-censor at all and just say like whatever feels you know like just the first idiotic thing that comes to my mind right um and to not go oh yeah yeah yeah because um the character is very self-centered yes yes and and and the character is sort of based on um you know the darkest parts of myself and the darkest parts of people i know well and you know and part of me is like oh should i not be exposing this much not that people will like look at it and you know think anything just that i'll feel exposed and vulnerable it's very it's interesting growing up in in the world that we grow up in or being like it was all very familiar for some reason yeah that character it was not like this menacing dark you know kind of like you're not concerned you're like i dated that girl yeah you know i've been that guy yeah like they're familiar there's something about that i mean we're not we're different generations but there's something about you know kind of the you know kind of being young and a little fucked up and not knowing what to do and smoking weed and getting fucked up and it's not it's what we do so the emotions of that character were not anything people are gonna go what the fuck i mean i've been surprised by the varied reactions like that's definitely my feeling what you know like i know this girl and i'm and i've been this girl and i know um and i know that um like she's really making some decisions she's embarrassing herself and and then like when she tried when she like isn't capable of fucking apologizing like i i sympathize with that and because it's so hard and um and i've been surprised that other people's reactions to it are really like you're a terrible person like not even like your character 13 year olds no no there was this woman at um sundance who was like i just want to say melanie like you gave such an amazing performance and like talks about melanie's acting and then goes but you i wanted to throttle and like it really it kind of undid me like and it kind of like rang in my head for the rest of the night that this woman was like so like she didn't say like congratulations on your performance no she like she was just like so um but you know but she probably has a person like that in her life currently making her crazy your daughter and she could go oh melanie you're me and therefore like you did such a good job portraying me and you're a nightmare and you're a terrible person well that's the interesting thing that i learned recently is just how much when you're a public person or you do creative things and that you become this uh this repository of people's projections that they're not you know like a lot of times especially in a movie that that is that rod and feels like that they're not going to separate you from that character and you're just going to serve that purpose i mean sadly that's what makes you know the art of drama you know effective it's sort of what you have to live with especially in a culture where it seems like now people are very incapable of separating reality from fiction almost everywhere it's bizarre how some people be like that was just you it's like no it's somebody's got a whole movie and they just project that stuff but i know that character is uh it is a disturbing character but i think it's a very common character yeah yeah i mean you did a good job thanks man did you watch it i did um yeah it was um it was really surprising to me watching it that um i felt like i was doing like i felt like when we were making it like more would come across on screen and there were scenes i was like oh no i should have like um like nothing really happening in the scene and and you know it's it's like it just like it feels like nothing's happening i should have pushed myself for it and then been so so happy beyond thrilled that people are like oh that scene at the end and i'm like oh my god like i forget that like you can show restraint as an actor and as a filmmaker and you know in any kind of art form people will feel you know what you're feeling if it's like if it's honest you know and if i had like pushed my you know the emotion of that scene i think it would have you know ruined it but i was watching it going like because in traditional filmmaking it would be like this is the part where she cries this is the part where she apologizes this is and like because you don't have a writer giving you the words you're just you and like you have to come up with the words and i couldn't you know i could barely muster like an apology when people were yelling at me in the movie i just couldn't um apologize because that would be you know it would have been impossible and there but if it was written i probably would have cried in that scene well that's right because that character in that movie wasn't able to not possess that self-awareness that was part of the thing of her is that she was incredibly selfish but you know self-awareness would have just crumbled her and that may be another movie but that may be the journey of that fictional character but it was not that movie right yeah but yet still at the end it is a sympathetic character and if people miss that they got stuck somewhere in the middle yeah and fuck her yeah i totally agree like and i think because i i so sympathize with people who um like i like when they like clumsily attempt to say like this is what i'm feeling and and this is you know and i can sort of glean what's happening and i'm like you don't have to say it like you don't have to know well it's a person it's a character that is unable unable to take responsibility for her actions yeah but it doesn't mean that she doesn't feel ashamed and she doesn't you know and that and that in meeting melanie's character she finds someone who's willing to like her own brother is not necessarily willing to like take that leap and and say like i know that she feels these things and she's just bad at telling me and like melanie's character is such a great compliment because she is open enough that she can see like i know what i know what's happening right but you but also your character there was a there was a back and forth with that that you were able to sort of you know push her character through her fear and then she was able to be empathetic with your character once you know you were sort of working together in some weird way i'm not gonna spoil the movie but but there is i was surprised in watching it that's been a long time since i've watched uh an independent film that is like that where where they aren't respecting you know story points of how a movie should go yeah like there were points in that movie where i'm like something really shitty something really bad is gonna happen and like i had that moment where it's like oh it didn't yeah it just kind of went through that part it was very honest yeah and i thought it was great yeah it's like a very small story but i'm but it's very honest yeah i mean and you just don't see that much anymore even with you know quote unquote independent movies it's hard to really decipher what that means in terms of the freedom of the filmmaker because there's so many restraints and people want to sell their movies and it just seems like joe you know lets the thing where even he's got a certain you know um point of view yeah that that seems to be growing like he you know he's very sophisticated about what he wanted to do there yeah and i think you know like i said like it's it's there's definitely a feeling of like it's okay to fail and with happy christmas we were all really kind of willing to be brave and know that we were shooting on film and you know you know uh exposing like very personal parts of ourselves because it was like for 80 grand nobody knew we were making it was like nine people right like there was like a dp uh sound guy like it was there was nine people right you know i felt like we were kind of like getting away with something we're like no one no one knows we're here which is crazy like you know how many people work on your show and sign off on your show and and we were just like in his house making this movie and um so it also felt like you know and when i said to you like oh you know if you've seen happy christmas you know if you hate it like that's also fine like you don't like it like well i'm very open-minded and certainly when you know somebody and i think that hearing joe hawk you know having not really known him and maybe at some point in my life i think i saw maybe one of his movies a while back um and i you know i got it but this seemed actually more sophisticated than than whenever they were trying to label him like there's a tradition of real independent film that doesn't honor you know the constraints of of what movie making is like real renegade cinema yeah and i think he does that but he does it you know in a very vulnerable way in a very relatable way but he's making real art movies yeah and not self-aware art movies not like self you know right yeah that was that was that was no like producer rushing and going oh at this point the movie shouldn't the boyfriend turn out to be blah blah blah or whatever yeah i have a tremendous respect for anybody that goes off the grid and does their own thing and is able to pull it together and get talent like you and melanie and do that thing so when does pitch perfect 2 happen when like what's going on then you do this other big like what was the other big uh this exciting movie that you're in into the woods yeah that's the that's the meryl one that's where i got to work with okay now tell me about that movie um it's it's based on a musical uh steven sondheim musical um i know him yeah i know i wasn't trying to like i wasn't trying to like i think i knew it was steven sondheim so do you sing in it i do so it's like it's it's of the the les mis ilk it's like a big movie like that like a like a musical yeah it's like a new musical yeah and rob marshall who directed chicago um is directing it so um he's a like obviously one of the people who brought back the musical in the best possible way because chicago was just such a revolution and um it's based on all the fairy tales of meeting oh right okay oh that's uh that's a smart guy that's clever yeah and it's very much about like you know like going into the darkness and going you know who do you play i play cinderella believe it or not and uh i uh it's it's the the first act of the show is basically the story is kind of as you know them like everyone's intersecting which is which is new but um like it ends with me marrying the prince and it's you know it's basically uh and loretta gets away from the wolf and rapunzel will escape the tower and you know it all um great and and then the second act is like what happens after happily ever after and all the consequences of your actions and you know my prince cheats on me and my you know uh that's what princes do yeah it's uh it's it's like all the it's like a lot of high schools just do the first act of the show um and of course the second act is like the mind-blowing beautiful um human thing yeah it's it's just like so stunning and so smart and and you did work directly with merle yeah and and she sings this song to oh it was insane i mean i was with um james gordon and he at one point was like you know people would pay so much money to like get a chance to see this happening and we just get to be here like i mean you could raffle off with the chance to watch meryl street sing last midnight at the end of into the woods like you know it would raise you know tons of money like people pay insane amounts of money and we just get to fucking be here like like us idiots it's amazing what was it like i'm i'm completely amazed there's a line um she sings this song just basically um about um you know like we everyone wants to self-identify as the good guy of course um and that she is like okay so i'm bad guy but i'm right and that sort of there's this line where she's like um you're so nice you're not good you're not bad you're just nice and um and she's like just watching her say that to me like filled me with this like shame this like deep i was just like oh my god this is great you know because she is saying like these are the consequences of your actions and apparently i'm the only one who's ready to deal with them and maybe it won't be easy and we'll have to like get some blood on our hands but this is we're in dire straits and this is happening but we're all like no we're the good guys we wouldn't do anything bad like so and it's basically the choice between um uh doing something nasty to save ourselves or just you know standing there going no we but we don't you know it's like we're kind of grappling with like but we're the good guys right so the actual idea is that you're actually grappling with the the single dimension of the fairy tale of the story as if your character had to live by that and this is like her yeah yeah like so yeah so people kind of um coming to terms with um but did you see were you able to sort of like was there a moment in her process where you know not unlike um well i don't want to compare him just because we talked about but like as an actress to see the difference between merle kind of like before the scene and then like because i just imagine her transformation has got to be mind-blowing yeah um yeah i mean you know she she was not you know she would be joking before the takes and stuff which is just you know so impressive and to me because i i don't know how you don't like just take a second but she's just i mean like i don't know just you work your muscle that frequently not well and you're just like oh this is no big deal i got this only the climax of the movie i'm just i'm just excellent right um but um but i mean you know we were in like scenes where uh there was like a lot of kind of a lot of blocking a lot of characters and she was always thinking about you know about everything and everyone in that scene and it's easy to just think about what you what your job is in that scene and she was sort of like okay but if she's over there wouldn't i be thinking about you know like right you know because i gotta have an eye on her she's asking questions yeah yeah um like when we were in the rehearsal process and when we were blocking everything out she was very like aware of every other character and um and i heard that from other people who did um she was very very much like okay but you know but now like that yeah i mean do you see the benefit that for you is that something that now you as an actor would integrate into your thinking i mean i hope so yeah yeah like to be uh because it's uh it's always fun and easy to do a scene with one other person or two other people but yeah i mean i that's normally what i do but on on movies with a bigger past it's so easy to just think okay but like yeah what do i do what do i say what's important like what do i need to do and like when's the camera gonna be on me and i need to make sure that i'm ready for that and and and and not be thinking about how the whole scene is gonna feel and um you know i don't know that i would be like shouldn't she you know i'm not maryland but at least to be aware of like how the rhythm of that scene is gonna be affected and how you can aid the uh like the feeling of the scene and the feeling of the piece as opposed to just like i just wanna say my line good yeah how your parents feel about all this are they excited are they thrilled yeah the premieres do you are they like she did it yeah um i mean it's funny i i felt like when they came uh last christmas they came to my place and stayed at my place and i kind of felt like that because that wasn't real because like good reviews and um like going to premieres and stuff is sort of abstract you know and and i think for them to see like i am their daughter and i grew up in maine and i wanted to be an actress which is insane and i moved to california and i'm like living in a house that i bought because i did it was like oh she did it you know like that was a really beautiful moment like i kind of got all like teary and i was like anyway this is like you know so this is like my backyard and that's cool because um i mean i don't know that they were especially teary or anything but like i could just feel that they were like oh yeah okay like you're like you're it was almost like it was almost like anything like you know like that it was like oh you bought a house or you got married or you like whatever it's just like you're a person right and so it's not like it's almost like acting wasn't even really a part of it it was more just like she's like it would be like i don't have an office that i could show them like but if i was like oh this is my office and you know it's like where do my work and but it would be like oh she's like really a person who's like got a life and you know and i didn't expect that i was just like so here's the house but you felt it yeah i felt like that they were like oh okay like right there's like a solid thing happening here you have like a home and so like you're gonna be okay right but your emotion must have been that sort of that weird moment of realizing that separation that that there is that weird moment where you know you spend all that time with your parents who are supportive and you know everyone's hoping for the best but you don't really think about it that way but it seems like that moment where you got emotional was like i am a person yeah yeah i'm not just like jan's kid yeah like that oh my god yeah you sort of run through life like sometimes i walk through this house which is you know no prize but like i had like it happened the other night because i'm alone over here now and it's just sort of like i own a house when the fuck did that you know and i'm 50.
yeah i just never like i didn't know how to buy a house when i bought this house there's that moment where you're like i'm a grown-up person i'm a grown-up person so what's this problem with your neighbors oh god so uh admittedly um like the outside of my house is i'm away all the time and i've got like a couple things that i need to to do like some structural stuff that i you know just make sure that everything's like up to code and whatever and so i hadn't bothered like putting putting up like, nice landscaping in, like, the surrounding area of my, which is, like, very small, by the way. Like, extremely, like, thin little strip of whatever. But apparently it's, like, displeasing to the eyes of my neighbors, and several of them have, like, left notes. Oh, my God.
Being like, oh, but here's my favorite. Someone went through the trouble of finding, like, some, like, fake website that, I mean, they must have just, like, been pissed off and, like, Googled, like, Anna Kendrick earnings or something. And, like, this extremely fake website that said that last year I made $86 million. What?
I was like, if I made $86 million, I would live in a palace in Dubai. Like, you think I would be in Fusio Canyon? Like, so they printed this out. So they, like, you know, printed out this fake page that was, like, and it said that I had a fashion line, like, you know.
So they were like, why can't you? So they pulled it out, and they were like, maybe you should use some of your millions to, like, get a landscaper. And it's just made me like, yeah, I'm going to wait. I'm just going to take my time.
To me, that defines the word cunty. I don't mean to be rude, but that is so cunty. Do you know who did it? I don't.
I don't. I don't really care. But it's so cunty. Oh, it's so cunty.
It's just, like. It is, right? Oh, yeah. Worst.
Yeah, don't do it. I would maybe get some car parts and just scatter them out. Just get something up on blocks out there. Yeah, yeah.
Well, it was great talking to you. You too. You feel like we did what we needed to do? Yeah, sure.
It was nice to see you. It was a pleasure to meet you. I was nervous. You were nervous?
Yeah. I was nervous. Why are you nervous? I was really nervous.
Well, because I thought you were going to be mad at me that we had to reschedule so many times. No, I was just amazed that it happened at all. Okay. And that, yeah, it's like, I just get nervous.
I don't know, you know, you're a big actress. I was nervous. I was nervous. But everybody told me that you were going to get deep, and I was probably going to leave being like, why did I say that thing about my grandmother?
Or whatever. What happened to your grandmother? No, not me. You just me.
Lovely. Lovely woman. Great actress. Thrilled that she came by.
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Do that stuff. On Thursday, I'm going to talk to Kathy Griffin. That should be interesting. We started out together.
I haven't really talked to her in a long time. I think we're okay. Boomer lives! Boomer lives!
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