Episode 54: John Penn, of the Dallas Football Officials Association, talks with Randy Jackson and I about how he handles some of the tougher situations in games by staying calm at all times.

John Penn has been officiating for over 30 years and is following in the footsteps of his father, Percy. He has a deep understanding of the game, which allows him to tolerate a lot of the things that go along with officiating at a high level of play.  This understanding allows him to see intense situations through eyes of the players and coaches which helps him manage and sometimes de-escalate potentially volatile situations.  Randy Jackson joins me for our second episode of the officials series.