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EPISODE · May 22, 2026 · 46 MIN

Episode 58: Self-Management vs. Self-Leadership

from True You Podcast · host Bill Tierney and Martin Kettelhut

In this episode, Marty and Bill explore the difference between self-management and self-leadership.Bill explains how self-management can become exhausting inner conflict, especially when one part of us tries to control another. They connect this to addiction recovery, workplace dynamics, 12-step programs, IFS, ACA, and Byron Katie’s work.Together, they look at how self-awareness helps us move from control into compassion, choice, and deeper trust in the Self.Chapters:00:00 Midweek Podcast Kickoff01:00 Self-Management Defined06:47 Leadership Versus Management09:22 Addiction Recovery as Management11:29 12-Step Origins and Limits16:06 Higher Self and Self-Love22:31 IFS Parts as Helpers23:39 Leading Teams Like Parts25:30 Motivation Questions at Work27:44 Motivation Builds Trust29:06 From Reactivity to Growth31:34 Challenging Limiting Thoughts35:27 Why Self-Awareness Is Hard38:24 Blind Spot Lunch Story40:48 Self-Leadership in Practice43:11 Freedom, Choice, and Beauty46:44 Wrap-Up and Inner SparkLinks and Resources:• True You Podcast Facebook Pagehttps://www.facebook.com/trueyoupodcast• True You Podcast Instagram Pagehttps://www.instagram.com/trueyou.podcast• Would you like to be a guest on the True You Podcast?https://calendly.com/listeningisthekey• Internal Family Systemshttps://ifs-institute.com/• Compassionate Results Coachinghttps://www.compassionateresultscoaching.com/• Bill’s book, Compassionate Results Guidebookhttps://compassionateresultsguidebook.com• Listening is the Key, Dr. Kettelhut’s websitehttps://www.listeningisthekey.com/• Marty’s new book, Leadership as Relationhttps://amzn.to/3KKkCZO• Marty’s earlier book, Listen… Till You Disappearhttps://amzn.to/3XmoiZd• Parts Work Practice, Free IFS Practice Group Sessionshttps://www.partsworkpractice.com• Contact [email protected]• Contact [email protected]🔗 Compassionate Results Coaching links:https://www.compassionateresultscoaching.com/links➡️ To learn more about the Internal Family Systems Model, visit:https://www.compassionateresultscoaching.com/about-ifs➡️ Join the Parts Work Practice Facebook group:https://www.facebook.com/groups/partsworkpractice🔗 Parts Work Practice page:https://www.partsworkpractice.com/📖 Get the Compassionate Results Guidebook here:http://compassionateresultsguidebook.com/➡️ Attend IFS Coaching Groups:https://www.compassionateresultscoaching.com/coaching-groups📞 Take the Coaching Readiness Assessment:https://www.compassionateresultscoaching.com/contact🎙️ Listen to True You Podcast at:https://trueyoupodcast.comAvailable on Spotify, Apple, and YouTube!

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