Episode 6: Living through the McCarthy era — and surviving Trump & Co.

This week, you’ll hear an interview with New Mexico legend and poet, V.B. Price and a conversation with photojournalist Diana Cervantes. Barrett and Laura talk about a lot of things, including his actor father being “graylisted” during the McCarthy era and what participating in a war economy does to your sense of right and wrong. And Diana talks with Andy and Laura about storytelling through a lens, the challenges of photojournalism — and the need for joy and whimsey. For further reading:North American Monsoon Drought Status Update: https://www.drought.gov/drought-status-updates/north-american-monsoon-drought-status-update-2025-06-30V.B. Price’s Mercury Messenger: https://mercmessenger.com/Books by V.B. Price: https://www.vbprice.com/booksDiana Cervantes: https://dianalcervantes.com/Mark Holm remembrance: https://dreamranch.blog/2017/06/11/friend-and-teacher-to-us-all/“Placitas Wild: Amid, Rancor, Advocates Scramble to Find Homes for Wild Horses”: https://dianalcervantes.com/placitas-wild-amid-rancor-advocates-scramble-to-find-homes-for-wild-horses“A Lighthouse Keeper Hangs Up Her Bonnet”: https://dianalcervantes.com/a-lighthouse-keeper-hangs-up-her-bonnet“The Lady of the Pigeons”: https://dianalcervantes.com/the-lady-of-the-pigeonsThanks for listening to the Lesser Known New Mexico Podcast!You can find us on Substack, Spotify or Apple and follow us on Instagram. And if you really want to, you can drop us a note at [email protected] credits: Get Through it (instrumental), Neu Song; Glitch Fidelity (instrumental), Marscott This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit lesserknownnmpod.substack.com