Episode 6: Stephanie Phillips on why we shouldn't call the Beatles geniuses

Author and musician Stephanie Phillips, who plays in the Black feminist punk band Big Joanie and whose writing has been featured in major outlets all over the world, grew up a music fan but for years had "a general disinterest" in the Beatles, due largely to the "sad dad army" of fans that she couldn't relate to as a young woman of color. "There wasn't really much in the Beatles for me to latch onto," Phillips tells host Ken Womack on "Everything Fab Four." "That was, I learned later, because of how their story and their myth and their music had been commandeered by a very specific white middle class elite." On this episode Phillips talks about her influential essay "On Loving the Beatles as a Black woman," finding her own way into Beatles fandom, why we shouldn't call them "geniuses," and what she doesn't hear on their albums.