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EPISODE · May 9, 2026 · 1H 9M

Episode 61 - The Radical Joy of Black Creativity

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In this week’s episode of We Are Out of Office, your co-hosts Veteran Television Executive Producer Nikki T and Bestselling Author Jayne Allen clock in with a conversation that stretches from beauty hacks to billion-dollar mindsets, from cultural moments to personal reckonings. It’s a layered, funny, and deeply reflective episode about what it means to build, love, create, and protect your peace in a world that keeps shifting beneath your feet.They move effortlessly between joy and reality—celebrating Black brilliance, interrogating relationships, naming economic uncertainty, and reminding us that your next move might just be your most powerful one.I See You, GirlThis week’s love is rooted in Black creativity and cultural excellence.Jayne gives flowers to the Black women who shaped the Met Gala narrative, highlighting the full-circle moment of Beyoncé’s leadership and the long arc from wearable art to high fashion dominance. It’s about honoring the lineage—the quiet rooms where culture was built before the spotlight ever arrived.Nikki brings us to the future with Kamira Johnson, a young finalist in Google’s national “Doodle for Google” competition. Her piece, centered on Black hair as power, transforms identity into art—literally shaping the word “Google” through curls and connection. A crown that grows from us.This is legacy in motion—past, present, and becoming.What We’re On Right NowJayne is deep in her Summer Writing Kickstart era, responding to layoffs, uncertainty, and shifting economies with something radical: ownership. She breaks down how writing a book became her entry point into entrepreneurship—and how she’s now teaching others to do the same.Key idea: Your experience is not ordinary—it’s intellectual property.She reframes books as more than art: They are income streams, credibility builders, and doors.Nikki, meanwhile, is in a season of intentional intake—reading, learning, healing, and making sure that whatever she consumes actually transforms her. Not just doing the work—but asking, did it change me?Together, they land on a shared truth: In uncertain times, skill-building is survival.Mindin’ My Black BusinessNikki introduces us to Zelda Wynn Valdes, a pioneering Black designer who opened her own boutique in 1948 and dressed legends like Josephine Baker and Ella Fitzgerald.And then—because history loves to hide its receipts—she drops the gem:Zelda Wynn Valdes designed the original Playboy Bunny costume.Jayne expands the conversation into modern entrepreneurship, spotlighting Curl Days, a Black-owned haircare brand born from one woman solving her own problem.The throughline:Start small. Stay consistent. Build something that answers a need.Because what begins as a solution for you can become infrastructure for others.Jesus Take the WheelNikki sounds the alarm (lightly, but not really) on a viral outbreak tied to a cruise ship, reminding us how quickly things can escalate in a globally connected world.It’s not panic—it’s awareness.Protect your body. Stay ready.Jayne shifts the energy into emotional territory with a cultural breakup that hit deeper than expected—using it as a doorway into a larger truth about relationships:It’s not always you.She unpacks the psychology of high-performing men and ego-based coping mechanisms, naming a reality many women experience but struggle to articulate:When someone’s way of handling pain is destructive, there is nothing you can do to love them out of it.That’s not failure. That’s clarity.Health & HealingThis moment becomes a quiet offering—almost a whisper to anyone who needs it:Check your breath. Check your body. Check your thoughts.They explore breathwork as a tool for regulation and release, grounding themselves in something simple but powerful:Inhale for five. Hold for five. Exhale for five.Because sometimes healing doesn’t require a breakthrough.It requires a pause.What’s GoodThere is innovation in the air—and it sounds like music.Jayne introduces Suno, an AI-powered platform where people are turning everyday moments—text threads, jokes, family conversations—into full songs.It’s funny. It’s strange. It’s a little uncanny.But more than anything, it signals a shift:Creativity is becoming more accessible—and more personal—than ever before.Nikki closes with global perspective: Mexico is rolling out universal healthcare for over 120 million people.A reminder that systems can change.That access can expand.That different futures are always being built—somewhere.Final WordJayne: Outside.Inside learning, outside living—holding both at once.Nikki: Just breathe. Because in the middle of everything—noise, pressure, movement— your breath is still yours.Show Links:Kameirah Johnson is a Finalist for Doodle for GoogleJayne's Teaching a Summer Writer's BlockBuster at BookGeniusThat CurlDaze Gel Jayne Was Talking About...Zelda Wynn Valdez’ Story Mexico announced universal healthcare15 minute breathworkQuestions? Comments? Email us at: [email protected] or follow us on TikTok and Instagram at: @weareoutofofficepod

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