All right, let's do this. How are you? What the fuckers? What the fuck buddies?
What the fuck is there's what the fuck a deluxe? How's it going? This is Mark Marin. This is WTF my podcast.
Thank you for listening. Welcome to the show be new to the show. Glad to have you. What's happening?
I don't know where you're listening, but I hope everything's going okay. All right, we've got a pretty pretty amazing show today. Central Wilson, the amazing brilliant cultural critic and writer has just written a new book. Well, it's out.
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And also, also, what else? Zach Vallefagakis. Yes, Zach Vallefagakis dropped by the garage the other day. Always nice to see Zach.
I've not seen him since I talked to him. Maybe I ran into him a couple of times, but he was on a very early WTF. And he's got a show, a new show produced by Louis C.K. who I also got to spend some time with.
Not here on the mics. But we went out and had a nice meal, me and the Louis. But the show that they co-created, it's called Baskets. Premiers Tonight on FX with the new episodes coming at you every Thursday.
So that was fun to talk to Zach. So it's a pretty packed show and I'm kind of tired. We have begun production of Marin season 4. And I got to tell you man, the first two days went great on this block.
Got a lot of the same crew back there. All the writer guys are there. Joe Kesskler is on the camera. Lynn Shelton, the amazing Lynn Shelton is directing the first two episodes.
I've never worked with her as a director. It's been phenomenal. And it's I got to admit, it's pretty funny. It might be the funniest season.
It's a bit dark. It's going to be a show not like the show you saw before in a way. It's a completely new show. I'll say again, for those of you who have kept up with Marin, you can see it on Netflix now, all of them.
I think you can see all three seasons. At the end of season 3, things were not great for the character of Marin. So we start there. We start a year here.
Here's what I'll give you. We start a year after that last episode of Marin on season 3. So it's a year later from whatever might have happened starting the day after that finale. That's what I'll tell you.
That could go either way. But think it through. Make your assumptions. All the scripts will look real good.
We got them all done before I started shooting because it was important to do that because I don't really have time to be rewriting on set. And I require less grooming this year. That's another hint that I'm going to give you. That's all I'm going to say.
I don't want to say any more other than I'm heavily employed right now. And of course, we do the podcast throughout the shoot. I squeeze it in and have some conversations with some people. Get on the mic here.
But I'm a little exhausted. I'll tell you how exhausted I am. Last night I was just, I got back from the shoot. I was sitting there having a bowl of cereal.
And my two cats, Monkey and Lefonda were on the couch. And I said, Hey, you two fuckers. And they looked up at me at the same time and I laughed for a little while. Tired, punchy.
That's where I'm at. That got me going. That was all it took. Yeah.
Also, Gwen Fry died. And he was in the Eagles. And I know a lot of people that kind of are like, the Eagles. And I think one of the reasons some of us think that is because we've heard the Eagles a lot.
But I got to be honest with you, some of those songs, like the song, Take It To The Limit. Somewhere in there, like maybe with with Stairway to Heaven and a couple others, I think was one of my first slow dances. And that has profound impact. You always heard the Eagles all through your life.
And this guy was great songwriter, a good singer and great guitar player. I mean, it was just, it's to the point where I don't even really know how classic rock stations are going to do a tribute to the Eagles because every other song is generally an Eagle song. That's how many hit songs I had. But it's a sad thing.
And I do want to give him and them their props because a couple of those songs were pretty powerful in the mind of a junior high kid back in the 70s. And that's so R.I.P. Gwen Fry. Anyways, Zach Galifianoodles, Zach Galifianakis, Zach Galifianakis co-created the show baskets with Louis C.K.
and he dropped by. We talk about a lot of stuff. So this is me and Zach Galifianakis. No, I know comics have a need to, you know, to do something.
Do you know what that is? I mean, you seem to have managed to. I'm good with you. I don't like to do, I like my life better than my profession.
Right? Yeah. I mean, I think I need to get there. I don't know if I'm quite there because I don't know what my life looks like.
Well, I think people come to this town and they get hijacked by this way you're supposed to live your entertainment life. It's not attractive to me whatsoever. Has it ever been? No.
Going to the Skybar and whatever people do. It's good to see you. I feel like, you know, I immediately felt when we saw each other front door after you kicked over the cat bowl. Well, why do you put your cat bowl right in the wall?
It's a wild cat. So it's not really my cat. It's a feral. It's a feral that I feed out there.
But I know it's a problem and I apologize for that. But I felt right away that we're getting along better. Oh, but you always, so you always have this thing with people I think, Mark. No, just with you sometimes.
With me only? No, no, I think we get along. No, I know we get along. But sometimes like, like sometimes I, and maybe it's true in the past, maybe this happened.
If you knew you were going to do this, maybe in the past, you'd be like, I got it. Okay. Go talk to Mark. Yeah.
Yeah. I mean, that's your own insecurities, right? Yeah. I feel like that for people too.
I feel like, oh, shoot someone has to come talk to me. I feel bad for them. No, no, I think that sometimes I've been unnecessarily bitchy, but I feel better now. I'm just telling you that at the outset.
Well, I always liked, and I think you're, if you want to call it whatever anger was always so funny. Yeah. Right. And that makes me want to do it with you.
Well, anger makes me laugh. Like I don't, it just does. It always has. That's why I liked it.
But yeah, you and I have no. I look up to you. Yeah, I look up to you too. Yeah, like it took me a while, but it's funny.
It takes a while. I just remember to like me. But there was this one time, maybe I should say it. Say it.
I wonder if I'm talking about it. But I wonder if I might have covered it like years ago when we did it. You actually were one of the first, yeah, I got to thank you. I mean, your podcast that we did in Albuquerque was really one of the essential ones towards building an audience.
So I appreciate that. Well, you know, I love to build podcasts. Yeah, I do. I'm going to round out Marcel Marcell Marcell Marcell Marcell Marcell Marcell Marcell Marcell Marcell Marcell's podcast.
You know, a lot of people aren't getting that. No, it's because it's weird. It's just one person. It's just me going, are you, what, you're skateboarding now?
Wait, he doesn't say anything. You're in a box. I know you're pulling something. What is it?
No, but there was one time that I always felt bad about what was not even about that. It was like it was at the old largo. And I was, I didn't live here and I was bitchy and I was here and I was going to go do this dumb set. It's dumb club where everyone's doing these cool things.
And it was right by the door like before you go on stage. Right. And I think you were wearing like a George Washington outfit. You had a, like a, it was a get up.
It was a get up. But it was a full get up. You'd gone to it. You outfitted yourself.
You were a founding father or something. I was a stand up comic from the 1700s. Oh, all right. And there was this is Peter.
I walk in. You look at me. You're about to go on stage. And I was just sort of like, really, it takes that much.
I know. Look, I'm not above doing prop humor. I don't, I don't have that. I thought that about that because it was funny.
And I could not see the funny at the time. You know, you're the first stand up I ever met in the laundromat in a laundromat, North Carolina. Yeah, it was a weird thing. I don't even know.
Like in retrospect, I'm not sure why I was there. I had been away that long to where I needed to wash clothes. I mean, I didn't pack. No, I'm in North Carolina.
I know you were doing Charlie Goodness. Yes. I know. And it was walking distance from where you must have been staying.
Right. And you walked in. And I lived near the laundromat or the end of the laundromat. And I saw you and I was like, I've seen him on television.
And I just asked you about stand up. Yeah. I remember that. I remember when I was living in New York and I was contemplating trying to figure out if I could do stand up and get it.
And remember I was a nanny in New York and Al Franken's kid was a, you were a nanny. I was a nanny in New York. And did I know that? How do you, do you want to need a license for that or something?
No. I mean, how do you, how do you, how do you, the family wanted a male nanny because they had two boys and they were older. Yeah. I don't ram bunches, I think.
Like in their teens? No, they were like seven and I can't remember something. And how they find you? I put up an ad at NYU NYU.
No, I didn't go there. Right. And they called me. Right.
And I remember the school in which I would pick the kid up, Al Franken would pick his son up there. Yeah. I don't know. And I walked up to him and asked for his advice.
And he said, well, to be honest with you, you're probably not funny. To be honest with him. Well, he was talking about his nose. At the time I was, what did that mean?
But he would say, look, a lot of people think they're funny. Right. And they're not. And you should know that.
Yeah. And, turn tell, he was right. But you made a great living. It doesn't matter, right?
Yeah. You made a great career out of it. But that thing about, like, I always appreciate the fact that you don't seem to, like, we're talking about at the beginning. You don't feel compelled to do stand up right now.
No, I do feel compelled to do stand up. And you fight it. Or you do it. I do it.
I do it. I just did it two nights ago. But I mean, I do it as much. But to me, if you don't do it often, your rhythm is off.
Oh, yeah. And I haven't, I haven't done it often enough of late to get my rhythm back. So it's, it's just one of those things that you have to practice. I feel like, yeah.
Right. And where'd you do it at? Largo. Yeah, with on someone's show, or you did it with Regina Spector, John, Malini and Judd.
Oh, for, oh, for Regina Spector, the singer. Singer. Oh, so it was one of Apatow's things. Yeah.
And then there was a Q&A after when me and Judd for something. Yeah. And so there was a few questions. And the last question, this woman raises her hand.
She goes, yes, can Regina Spector come out and sing another song? I did you let her? Oh, I got so livid at it. You did not.
I can fake it. We are talking. I was so offended. I was so happy.
Did she come on sing one? Oh, she's saying one. Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Are we working in the same building? I do this new show? What is it? Baskets?
Yeah, it's called Baskets. And we heard at the beginning when we were putting the writers room together, like, you know, Baskets is here to exit. And Dave Anthony writes on your show? Yeah, he does.
And he performs on it. He's taking it over like a cancer. Oh, like a cancer? Yeah.
We have a good chemistry together. Yeah, like Dave a lot. Yeah, he always speaks highly of you. He does?
Yeah. Yeah. He mentioned to me that you want some white? You look good.
He mentioned it too. What is your assessment of it? Are you just saying? No, no, you look good.
Like he said, like, it makes me uncomfortable. But I'm not throwing him under the bus, but he's having a hard time adjusting to you looking healthy, apparently. Well, if it makes him feel better, the reason I'm feeling is because I'm dying. Oh, well, I'll tell him that.
Yeah. Do you want to go into that at all? No, it's not that important. What did you do?
What did you stop doing? You know, I mean, I stopped drinking. That helps. You did?
Oh, yeah, I don't drink at all. Wow. Yeah. What did that happen?
Well, I had one of those nights that I've been looking for a while and I woke up and I was like, OK, that should be probably the end of my drinking life. How long ago was that? Four years ago in March or three? It's hard for me.
And then I drank at my wedding and I drank at one other wedding, Bobby Tisdell. Yeah. And that was, and I gave myself those breaks. And I just, you know, it's hard to, I was a good drinker.
But when you get older, your focus goes for it. It's too much. Really? And I also think, I mean, I hate to, I think we're kind of trained through Madison Avenue.
And I'm like, that's the way to be a man in all that portion. Madison Avenue? Well, we just don't travel. You mean, I mean, you know that I like it.
Advertisers. Yeah. No, no, I think that there was something put in place. Like, if you watch mad, then it's all about that.
The guys were drinking all the time. It was set in motion then. Yeah, that's right. Well, you know, Mad Men's, it's not a documentary.
No, it is a documentary. Am I watching it wrong? It's a nice looking documentary. It is.
And I was surprised how much access they had. Yeah, I know. I have to get all that access. How did they do that?
Fascinating. And there were color cameras back then. It was all amazing. It was all amazing.
And a real dedication to the director and crew to stay with the people. People come here to ask you about the present. You bored with people asking you how that? No, there's this cup.
People like the cup. I put the cup under glass. You got it. Machine noise.
I haven't been able to. Oh, that's my car. I left it on because my son's inside it. Some people have said, like, when you just thought talking about that, never president came to my house.
I don't know. Really? Like going to space. Did Secret Service come here?
Yeah, yes. I'll do all that. And did they come with a big motorcade? Mm-hmm.
That's the way he travels. It's not like he's going to. Oh, really? I'm going to run.
Did you, was there anything afterwards where you wish you'd ask them? Yeah, one question. What was it? Like moving from like a senator to that.
All of a sudden, you are making decisions almost unilaterally that are both options are going to end in human, the loss of human life. What was the first one of those? And, you know, how do you process that? Can you answer that question?
Yeah. Did you get to, I haven't heard the interview yet, but did you get a chance to ask me to go Wall Street? No, not specifically. Why you have a word that's already written.
Well, I did get a between two ferns thing with me and that when we were done. I was like, I wish. Well, that was a weird thing because he was, that was for the healthcare plan. That was the point pro quo that you had to deal with.
That's exactly right. I could use Latin terms. But yeah, that's, yeah, I mean, he had a thing, but I believed in it. I believe in the thing.
Yeah, why not? And I like him. And I think that well, there's, there's always going to be, and there wasn't much from from more so. So, I think it's a good thing.
I hope me because I did have some experience doing politics that there might have been an expectation to sort of via put his, to grill him a little bit. But the thing that people don't realize about politicians is that you can ask them whatever you want. I mean, they didn't give us a list of questions or vet us at all. Because you know why?
Because the president can handle himself. Right. That's right. So like, you can ask him like, how's it feel to kill, kill all those civilians?
And he'll be like, well, you know, there's a tough decision in these. And then all of a sudden you're into this thing where like three minutes in, you're like, I don't even know what he's talking about. So like, he's going to, you know, he's going to take it where he's going to stay engaged. Yeah.
Yeah. And it went pretty well. What was your experience with him? I tell you, were you in awe?
I mean, because you had to do a character. I was nervous. I mean, because I would be did in the White House and he came to your house. I went to his.
But I was, I mean, I was nervous. But after the fact and after we did it and the video was released, he, I get a phone call from him and we're chatting and we chatted for a couple minutes. And then the last thing he said was, okay, I'll talk to you later, brother. And I didn't know what to do.
I was by myself at an instruction site. And I just stood up and took a picture of the chair. I was standing again. As there's you have a cup sitting here desk with the president.
I have a picture of an old chair. But it's just amazing. What did he want to talk about? I was he was thinking.
He wanted to talk about some of my bits. No, he wanted to talk. He just wanted to think it was nice. Yeah.
Thank you. But let me ask you this though, when because I had to like my struggle was to be myself, like you had to hold, you know, whatever the tone of that show was I have to be brewed. Yeah, the president, the president in the White House. But I mean, I'm a respectful person, you know, I'm so, but there was a question that I'm sure was not because a speechwriter.
Yeah. Before we went in, I said to his speechwriter Cody who's so very funny, this guy. Yeah. And I pointed to a question.
I said, has the president seen this question? And it was what's it like to be the last black president? And Cody goes, I think so. Like, absolutely, he did not see it.
Right. So when I knew I had to ask that question, it was there was a big, you know, lump in my heart. But he, he's a funny. He has a good sense of humor.
Yeah, president. Right. Yeah. And that's rare in that town.
Like Washington, DC is not a funny town to me. Is that Iggy pop? Yeah. He was in here.
Unbelievable. What do you mean? I mean, I didn't know he was listening to anything pop. But I'm not asking to do this in my podcast.
I've been doing it a while. You know, Mark, I got to tell you, I have to know if you remember this, but years ago, I told you it should be on 60 minutes as Andy Rooney at the end. Right. The cranky guy.
You should. I mean, that's where you're this job that you're doing. You don't think I'm serious? What?
No, I mean, I don't need 60 minutes anymore. No, you don't need the man anymore. No, I don't need the man. I don't need the man.
It's a very weird feeling. No one does if you plan it right. But there's still some people there's sort of like, I kind of like the man. Yeah.
Well, certain avenues you need the man. Right. Right. No, the man sort of like, you know, it's literally a lot of the reason why some people need the man is the same is a parental thing.
It's like, well, you know, he got me this chair. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah let's talk about, but before we talk about baskets, which, how many episodes of that did you do? Ten. Really? Do you like them?
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's a very specific odd show. Yeah.
With kind of weird dramatic undertones, but very dumb humor. Yeah. And the tone of that is kind of new and I hope audiences find it okay. Now, did you know, will we produce it?
Yeah. Well, we, yeah, Louie called me and ask me if I would have any interest in trying to write a TV show because he had to deal with Fox or anything. Yeah. So they were like, make some shows.
I guess I guess. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
And. I, you know, my confidence level has never really been strong for anything. Yeah. I thought about it and he and I started chatting and he made it really easy and gave me a lot of room and freedom and, and you know, we came up with this, this show about a bit of rodeo clown.
No, that was something that you both, you sat there with Louie or on the phone and you like, you know, the idea is that I'm adding. Well, first it was going to be behind the scenes of Between Two Ferns. That was my idea. I was going to kind of make it that right.
And I couldn't make sense of that in my head and then Louie and I started chatting and I remember sitting around to sit and act like I'm thinking, right? And rodeo clown popped in my head and something about it. Yeah. Yeah.
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Yeah yeah. And he's got him being trained in Paris made Louie and I laugh like a like a train clown. More artistic and he ended up there somehow. So he goes there to study clown theory.
Any he's terrible. Yeah. Drops out and goes and moves back to his hometown and a baker's and all the only working kit is a rodeo clown. So it's a chip on his shoulder.
So that's the basis of this. So it takes away some bakersfield. Yeah, bakersfield in Paris. And Paris too?
Did you shoot in Paris? Really? Yeah. Yeah.
As those are flashbacks or? Those are flashbacks, yes. Yeah, it was so fun to go to Paris. I mean, obviously.
I've never really been behind the scenes of a TV show. Well, no, I had to talk to you a few years ago, but I wasn't paying attention. F.H.1? Yeah, with the hat.
Yes, Mark, with the hat. I'm not understanding. I was the guy that had the game show on the flip side of your fucking hat show. Oh, yeah.
That's right. I'm not taking the upper hand here. That's, yes. We both went down together with what's his name.
Well, VH1, I mean, it was not the greatest place to do. The weird thing was though, is in terms of changing the tone, they were just about a decade too soon. They saw you, or the idea of, was to make it more specific to what they pictured primarily, I think, white youth as being at that time. But they came to me and told me people I could not make fun of.
Artists of theirs that I could make fun of. Well, I think they were trying to reach out to a segment of audience that didn't quite exist yet. What, the share fans? Well, yeah, I had to do, yeah, Tony Braxton fans.
I just remember, there was this horrible moment in show business where I think we were both there. Maybe I'm wrong, where they were doing the big kind of launch thing in-house launch thing, and they wanted me to do an episode of the BuzzCocks Live with a couple of people. I don't know if you were there or not. Maybe you weren't, but I just remember that what's his name, Fred.
Oh, Graver, Graver, right. And he got up there to address VH1, which was pretty entrenched in what VH1 was. And he thought it'd be cute to wear that hat that you were wearing on all the BuzzStops and everything. So he gets up there with that dumb heck on it.
And I just looked at a room full of people who'd been doing it a certain way for over a decade just like this. Yeah, no. This is tough as fucking room. And I'm like, this is doomed.
I couldn't have been happier that didn't work out for me. Yeah. I had no idea what the game show was. I hosted it for 13 nights.
I have no idea. I remember when that show got canceled for me, I just went right back to open mics. Yeah. I just right back to open mics.
Like, okay, it's a do-over. But then you've gone on to amazing success. So now, okay, baskets is exciting. It sounds good.
I'm excited about it now. The billboards are hard to understand. Well, you've never liked my billboards. I haven't put you alluding to with the hat thing.
But that was like a fucking, that was like Marky March ass in New York. I mean, it was like fucking everywhere. The thing with this business is like everything has to be out of the gate big. It's like just let people find a show.
Yeah. You know what I mean? The one thing you get with FX2 and because you're working with Louis and what I get with IFC is that you do have freedom to do it. Yeah, there's no, there's nothing better than that.
Yeah. I didn't know that even existed. I assumed it never existed. But when Louis told me, hey, they won't bug you, he was completely to his word.
They have been nothing but cool. And the notes they have given me and I'm not the blow smoke up but have been really, really, I agree with all the notes, which is rare. Well, I think that happened to me too on, on Marin. And it's like, it's a gift.
It's a great thing. And I think one of the reasons is because they, in some ways, have, you know, less to lose. It's a much more competitive market. There's no system in place anymore.
They can't pretend to know the answers. They just can't. So, you know, they trust in the... That's what it is.
Yeah. That's what it is. And that's the smart way to be. They're the business people.
We're the joke jokesters. When does it, when's it on? I don't know. I don't know.
It's soon, the 21st. I'll get the information. Do you know, Louis Anderson, he's in it. Really?
Yeah. A lot of them? He's in all of them. Really?
He plays my mom. Really? Yeah. I don't know if I'm supposed to say that.
I can't remember if we know it's great. It's great. I wanted to cast Brenda Blethin. Is that her name?
The English actress? No, I'm not sure. She's one of my favorite actresses but I never know how to pronounce her name. She was not available.
And Louis, CK and I were talking about it. And I was like, I don't know Louis. And I said, look at a lot of people' actresses' reals. And he's a voice.
And he's like, what kind of voice? And I'm like, kind of like Louis Anderson's voice. And he goes, should we call Louis? And I went, yeah.
And a minute later, Louis and Louis are talking the phone. And I remember the conversation, hey Louis, it's Louis. Hey, I'm doing the show with Zach Galatakis. Here's the thing.
We want you to be in it. Okay. Here's the thing, we want you to play his mom. I'll do it.
Exactly. I'll do it without. And it has been a really, really, I mean, he's stills the show. That's easy.
Yeah. Like I kind of want to be the straight man in this. And he's a little bit so he is so funny to me. That's beautiful.
That's beautiful. He's very funny. He has a lot of siblings. He was telling me, and I mean, like nine or ten.
And I said, Louis, where do you fall in line? Like, from the number of siblings. And he goes, I almost successful. No, he's a sweetheart.
And one of the great comics really. Yeah, he's really great. But what about how many more hangovers are there? We have contracted up to 12.
So, and I feel a real appetite out there for more. I feel people really want. Everyone always asks me when I told people I was talking to him. I'm like, don't ask him when it's coming.
When did they go now, those guys? Yeah, it's a look. That was a good chunk of my life that I do not regret at all. It was a wish we had just done one.
Really? I think leave well enough alone sometimes. How many did you do? Three.
No, we have to do nine more. Are you doing any more? No, no. No, no.
No, I mean, ten years when this all dries up, I'm sure I'll be knocking on people's doors. I'll be knocking on people's doors. I'm still weird. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Look, I'm still weird. And now, you see, I think one of the reasons you've seen better outside of perhaps not dreaming and growing up, is you have a child? Yes. How old is a child?
I don't know. He's some... No, he's two. He's a he.
It's a he. Yeah. I mean, I'm pretty sure. Yeah.
You might check in occasionally. That must be great for you. I got to tell you, going back to what we were talking about, Madison Avenue and all of your commercial, like, fatherhood is fantastic. Yeah.
I mean, I just love it. I have no complaints. It's changed the chemistry in my body to be a morning person now. I go out and walk and say good morning to morning people, the nicest people in the world.
If you want to meet nice people in Los Angeles, go out at six in the morning. But yeah, I can't. I don't want to bore your audience, but I just, I just, being a dad has been the highlight of my life. Do you have an exit strategy?
For what? For life? Are you going to like, at some point, go like, I'm taking the family and... Oh, there's a dropout scenario that's definitely going to happen where you just kind of...
But you can do that if you want. I mean, theoretically, like, you know, I'm just saying because I think about this, like, obviously you're at a different pay grade than me, but there is a... Oh, so you got my text? Yeah.
There is a... Three of them. Like, just remember who's in charge. But I mean, you could...
Like, this is... I'm just fighting with this myself. It's like, why don't people go like, I'm done. I'm going to take my kid and my wife and go live a deep quality life away from this shit.
But I think that somebody like you and I have a selfish pull to be able to entertain people. There's like a need. So I don't think I can ever stop doing... I don't want to stop doing stand up.
Right. Right. Because I feel like that's the one thing I would really miss. But all the other stuff, I mean, look, as we were saying early, there's your life and there's your work life and your life is more important.
Right. Do you... Are you still have a farm? I still own that, but we moved our farm to another farm.
Yes. So we moved out of North Carolina. Yeah. So don't tell me where you went, but you've got another place.