EPISODE · Jun 6, 2026 · 1H 8M
Episode 68: It's Not All Rainbows & Butterflies
from The Mushroom Mamasita Podcast · host Bijou Finney
In this raw and essential episode, I welcome Stephan Kerby, a 5-MeO-DMT facilitator and co-founder of the Mindscape Psychedelic Institute. Kerby doesn't create a hierarchy of psychedelics he respects all of them. But 5 is his medicine, the one that transformed him. And he's dedicated himself to training others to hold this medicine with trauma-informed care, integrity, and respect for how powerful and vulnerable the experience truly is.From my personal experience bufo is unlike anything else. It's not LSD, not MDMA, not DMT. Kerby describes it as a 500-piece puzzle being completely obliterated. You don't just have a mystical experience you experience a temporary dissolving of your entire ego, everything you think you are. You witness your programming, your fears, your desire to seem smart or get approval. You become an observer of your own mind.We dive deep into the safety issues and red flags Kerby has seen and personally experienced. The "wild west" nature of the psychedelic space right now, why education and facilitator training is more important than government regulation, how to spot someone who is desperate (and therefore more vulnerable to bad choices), and what to do if your experience doesn't go the "love and light and beauty" way. If you're curious about Bufo and wondering whether a facilitator is safe: listen to this. Your life might depend on it.Listener discretion is advised: This podcast discusses sensitive topics related to trauma, abuse, addiction and psychedelic therapy, which may be sensitive or triggering for some listeners. I encourage listeners to engage mindfully and take care of themselves throughout the conversation.Connect with BijouIG: @mushroommamasitaWebsite: mushroommamasita.comConnect with KerbyIG: @mindscape_instituteWebsite: Mindscapeinstitute.org
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