Fuck the game! That you better do a little something Or even It doesn't matter male or female Who's ever in charge of doing the thing Or who's ever doing the nice thing for Valentine's Day If one of you says it's not important I would not take that to heart I would go ahead and make a little effort I did, I woke up and I made waffles With this nasty old waffle iron that I have And I think it was nice I think it was a nice thing to do To make cornmeal waffles But I did lose my shit a little bit When the first one stuck And I know that the first one always sticks The first pancake, the first waffle are bullshit I'm not seeing it as symbolic in any way But I did get a little aggravated But I caught myself And I said why ruin the morning mark It's Valentine's Day Even though the woman you're seeing It's not important to her Why ruin the day anyways With waffle angst But love, love Is that what Valentine's, is that what it's about? Is it guilt? Is it doing something nice?
Is it a sham and a scam? Put together by the greeting cards company And some sort of traditional idea Flower sales, what not, chocolates Is it an actual day where people reflect on love Or they're just sort of like Oh I get to eat that brunch today But I, you know love Yeah I know a lot of people were alone out there On Valentine's Day And that's sort of a rough gig Even if you don't believe in it Even if you think it's stupid It's hard to see all those couples In different variations of true relationship Or playing the role Out there doing the thing And you're walking by Dragging your feet Love is tricky man The one thing I've been realizing now About myself When I look at myself in pictures And I see myself on television Is that there was a sense of desperation And aggravation And need And anger That I could always identify And I assume Obviously people were not going to be As sensitive to it as I was But it was there It's something you can't hide It's sort of It's similar to wearing your heart on your sleeve But I've been noticing that Some of that shit is going away Obviously because things are going okay Obviously because I'm getting older Obviously because I'm not freaked out About my career as much And obviously because I truly don't give a shit about a lot of things And that's a relief And there's nothing you can do to make that go away You can pretend and pretend And act as if And do the next right thing Or whatever you're going to do And then hopefully you ease into it But that's happening But unfortunately Alongside of that It's like alright So maybe I finally landed in my body And I'm comfortable with myself Is that there are some things That I know are still fucked up But then once you really Become comfortable with yourself And you don't give as much of a shit About things that used to bother you There's also this kind of like You know maybe I'm just going to Fucking live with this shit Maybe I'm going to live with this These emotional liabilities These problems This sadness Or you know Why do I need to struggle And fight in love Maybe that's just the way I am And I don't know that That's necessarily a bad thing I mean life is relatively short You're not going to fix everything And you know I thought about this And talked about it before But I think if you surrender to it And you do have the desire To change And you know what it is That you probably need to change That sometimes the work Is just surrendering to it And accepting it Accepting who you are And then save yourself And your secret little mind That you know why I'd like to change that So just plant that seed in your head But be okay with who you are And sometimes I would say More so than not It will partially manifest The changes you want to make But if you're approaching it With desperation Like I gotta fix this out Fuck I gotta do this out Fuck I gotta figure this out God damn it Why can't I just get to this place If you propel yourself With that same desperation For perfecting what cannot be perfected The flawed heart of the human Then you're always going to have That look in your eye Or that anger in your eye Or that sadness in your eye But if at some point You go like well fuck This is who I am And you really fucking accept it And you know you want to change At least a little bit To experience something differently Than what you're used to I think it will happen I think it will manifest If you truly accept yourself With all your flaws That's my Valentine's Day message And if you were alone on Valentine's Day Well I mean look Be thankful You have nothing to lose That might be cynical It might be sad You might be nurturing a broken heart Or longing for someone In an unrequited way But there's beauty in that too Just don't hurt yourself That's my general message For all holidays Try not to hurt yourself Could you do that So these Broad City gals Females I like them You know it's weird Because you know Abby and Alana I had the opportunity to talk to them And I want to talk to them I like talking to creative people And you know I got caught up A bit with Broad City I watched it I started to get it It's interesting with things And I know this for myself And I talk to them about it a little bit With certain shows I mean it's like anything else It's like music It's like any sort of art Of any sort of creative person It takes a while to get the groove Both as an audience And as the people creating it I know I've gotten better On my show This is the fourth season God knows I should be comfortable I'm no Olivier But I sort of eased into myself And have more comfort on set And what can and can happen on the show And what I can and can't do as a character And that's the same with anything There's an evolution Especially with comedians You know by nature Comics on television or in movies We tend to be a little self-conscious And I'm very sensitive Especially if I know whoever's doing it And who I'm watching Some are better than others But it just takes time So I took the time I got the groove And I really started to enjoy Broad City Generationally There's a difference But it ain't that big of a difference And there are some things That I definitely related to And one of the things That I related to was And this is with Louis too And Woody Allen And people who are very committed And really use New York City As a character In their work There are New York City artists And writers And people who do films and TV And the people that embrace New York And that really showcase New York the best Are the people that Have a real relationship with the city And one of the things That's great about Broad City Is that I know all those places And if you watch Broad City You can see some of those places On Louis Show You can see some of those places With Woody Allen There are some pieces of film And music That embrace New York full-heartedly And having lived there On and off for over a decade You know I have a real romantic And love-hate relationship With New York And also a sort of love-hate relationship With how the sort of Profile of the city has changed The profile of the texture The culture of the city It's very hard to identify What was once there And I think you know Talking to Alana and Abby You know we kind of got into that And also to approach New York As a comedic foil You know has been done to death And watching their show They actually managed to do it A little differently And the other great difference About the generational difference Between me and the Broad City gals Is that what's great about their shows There's a lot of things That they just are That when I was coming up Or even five or ten years ago They just weren't They had to be explained They had to be you know Stuff about you know Sexuality, ethnicity Different types of relationships You know how women are depicted I like the way that Abby and Alana Just it just is You don't have to explain anything This is the life we're living This is New York This is our generation This is the landscape Of our experience And it's definitely different Than when I was a kid And I love it I really had a great time Talking to them And also there's a Jewish component To today's show As does happen sometimes On this show What was great Is I want you to know That before they came over I made sure to clean my toilet Because I wanted to be nice For the women And when they came over They came over At 11 in the afternoon And I will I will love Alana Glazer forever For walking in And I was just sort of like You know getting set up And I had to go out front To get a chair Because there are two of them And I didn't like the chair I have in here It's kind of loose It was a loose transition From their car to the house Made some coffee Offering coffee And Alana said You know if we're being so casual Can I have a bowl of cereal I need breakfast And I was very happy To give Alana A bowl of puffins With unsweetened almond milk Which she said she preferred Right That is a woman after my own Sad middle aged heart Yeah I love Barbara's puffins With unsweetened almond milk She didn't even stevia that shit man She just ate it And then we did the thing And here's the thing I just made two notes Here's what I wrote I wrote that Abby Jacobson straight hair That is so funny I was going to joke That that was your fucking note Because literally Our friend's dad did that Abby straight Alana curly That's what I wrote That is so My hair's fucking funny Why do you think that is? Because you're an older dude And you see two young women And you're like Oh straight curly I don't fucking know I didn't watch all the shows But I watched a bunch of them I imagine there are people The people that are huge fans of the show They're like Abby so this And Alana so that But I had to get it in my head Not because I'm old What is that? End a man I said End a man I don't remember people's names That I've known for 20 years It's fucking tragic I'm so Well no I'm so self-involved That the people I keep running into Again and again I'm like Oh that's a fucking guy You're like nose guy Hey nose guy I know them But I just can't fucking manage their names So I'm glad you used the bathroom Because I went out of my way To clean the toilet It was so clean That's cool of you I like that you have the Meyers I'm really into that Meyers hand soap Right So good We all are into that now What did everyone use before that?
I've tried other ones Sometimes I'll just get the supermarket brands And it works But there's something about the Meyers label That makes you believe in it I know It's like a very I know It's gross It looks old kind of Yeah It's old school It's such bullshit It's new sincerity No I love it It's bordering on I have it And I got two refills And I prefer bar soap And I still got refills Because I'm like I had to buy on a show Right That's what it is It's a new authenticity It's like bordering on artisanal Right That's the whole thing And I buy into it Local soap Even though we all have it You can get it anywhere It's off Amazon from England Or something I've had people make me soap Do people send you fans What are you getting from the fans now Nothing Do you filter that stuff Does it come to you Is your P.O. box We did a tour Some stuff That was like We get weed Well when we just hand it to us When they hand it to us That's dope But when they talk with us It's like no Oh no there's a story Like you guys want it I'm like nah I can't You know Yeah I'm not doing this When you go on tour When did you go on tour Did you just get off work No like right before the second season So two Novembers ago How many dates It was like a whole month of November I think we did like 24 shows Yeah It was cool Some were double Like Seattle was standing And that was like Awkward right Yeah Because it makes you uncomfortable I wish you guys could sit down Me too And it's like I felt like I felt like they were just Uncomfortable Yeah They were discomfort Yeah yeah yeah It's like I feel bad You guys got to stand up And we do the show And like how like So what 4 to 800 people coming I think our biggest venue was in D.C. Oh yeah Yeah 4 to 8 I feel like And our show is like We're not A lot of times done more stand up Than I do But we're not It wasn't stand up It was like this weird Weird show We had been doing a show A lot of show at UCB For a couple of years In the days of New York Just one Just one guy So you guys could go do 45 minutes of sketch Basically We did like an hour Yeah And then we had some video stuff Because it was kind of a Poor like leading up To the second season So we had some characters On the show do little bits It was almost like Contextualized stand up Where we did this This thing like Soundtrack of our lives Where we were like Different moments in our lives And like songs that We would play for them Yeah When you like make soundtracks For a certain time in your life Like a mix tape Yeah so it was like Kind of like being able To talk about something But having this context To work off of Right And did you guys Because like now you're Just sitting here being yourselves But the dynamic on stage How does that play out Yeah it was amplified It was amplified It's not them on the show But it's not quite us So you can see You come to the live show And you're like It's happening on the show Exactly Right the curly hair And the straight hair I straighten that hair That's right But who's your audience Do you find when you look out there Is it men Is it women Is it young people Is it people dressed like In white shirts like me Like is it hipsters How do you categorize them It's like hipsters I think it's I felt like it was like A lot of couples But after the shows We would do meet and greets And like people that got merch We would sign everything So we met a ton of people And it was I mean I think a lot of women Watch the show But a lot of dudes too It was really pretty queer Yeah It was dope It was the coolest It was so hard But it was so fucking cool We were diverse And straight and white It was like oh Well I think that you guys do that The benefit of having the backdrop Of New York And being sort of in the generation That you're in Where all this shit is breaking down And New York is this melting pot Of gender and sexuality And ethnicity and everything else And the sort of open mindedness Of the show and the comedy of it It's very all encompassing Of people that are progressive And interesting It's such a special place New York? Yeah we've been out here For a couple weeks And we both love LA And it's so comfortable But New York is so unbelievable It's like a battery If you know how to be in New York When you're there You're engaged all the time You have no choice Because there's someone In your face at all times It's very electrifying I've been here I've been here for two weeks And we go back this weekend And I'm like excited To ride a subway Oh yeah I can't wait to be able to Just because I've been so in my car Which I like driving But I'm also excited to be Among people again Right here you're just not Part of a big body of New York I wonder what would happen To you guys If you stayed out here You should do all season Where you moved to LA And just everything You don't know how to get pot I was talking to someone About doing promos On a lot that looks like New York That's so funny Paul was just saying I was saying it to Paul Oh Paul was just saying Was he saying it was his idea Because it sounds like No we might have been talking About it yeah Paul writes on the show Paul does he down He's accenting it's on the show And he was saying Like a whole season On the New York lot And we pretend it's New York It becomes like the Seinfeld New York Right Which is like one block It's so funny watching the show Because I know all those places I mean I wandered those streets And I'm like oh there's that Are you like that's not That restaurant anymore Well I haven't gotten that specific But there's certain blocks Where I can know exactly where that is Did you see our St.
Mark's episode I didn't Which one happened It's just that block That one will give you douche chills On St. Mark's between 3rd and 2nd Yeah I know the chunk But like when I was there It was like Now I don't even know what it is Or St. Mark's between Lafayette and what 3rd Like towards Right by Cooper Union Yeah it's just that block Right that used to be so fucking different I don't even know what it is now I know now it's like It's Asian noodle place Yeah, it's like NYU's. And the blog.
They've taken over the entire part of the city? Complete downtown. Where do you go? What's authentic anymore?
What are your haunts? Ooh, B&H. Oh, yeah, B&H. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Is that the bagels? Or no, B&H is the... It's right on St. Mark's, but it's this little...
The Jewish food place? Yeah. The counter. Yes.
The dairy counter. I haven't been in a while. I've got to go. Actually, it's freezing in New York right now.
It's like, I've got to go. Is that what they have there? They just have, like, grilled cheese. But you guys, but you're not from the city either, you're right?
No, I'm from Long Island. I'm from outside Philly. Outside how far? Oh, really?
So how far from Jersey? How far from New York? Hour and a half? Hour and a half?
Hour and a half from New York. I'm from, like, northwest. So, like, 20, 25 minutes outside the city. But you grew up going in the city every weekend, I imagine, right?
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I mean, I didn't do, like, shows. I was just going and walking around. Right, right.
Just to be like, I'm in New York. Yeah, I mean, like, north, south, east, and west. And, like, to flex that, you know? And when I, like, got to New York, I, like, lost my compass.
I was so, like, oh, fuck. I'm fucking here now. I don't know what I'm doing. This is, like, way deeper than the idea of, like, it's cool to walk around a block.
Well, that's the weird thing when you first go to New York, even if you live in Long Island, you're, like, I'm just going to walk around. And then, like, nothing happens. You just walk for blocks and blocks. You're, like, I should have some destinations.
I'm exhausted. Yes, yes, exactly. Where'd you end up gravitating towards? When did you start going in?
Like, taking the training? Were you, like, 14 or 15? More like, I was, like, nervous. Maybe I'm, like, 16.
I'm, like, 16. Were your parents ever, like, you'll be going to disappear? Yes, yes. What, what, what, what, what town?
I did, Joe. What town on the island? Um, Snifftown? Mm-hmm.
Is there Stony Brook University? I was, like, a good girl. I was just such a bad. You were?
Yeah, I still am. I still am. You're the good girl? But you weren't, like, going to the city to, like, fucking concerts and, like, do anything.
I was, and I think we met, and then switched, because I'm not, I'm not, I was much crazier in high school and college than I am now. And you, none of you're crazy at all now. But you play, but on the show, you play the sort of, like, anything goes person, and you're, like, the kind of, like, you need your things. You have to have your things to manage your life.
You need your things. It's so funny. It's so funny. What?
You need your things. Yeah, right. That's distinct. Damn.
So what kind of childhood? Like, middle class, Jewish, you know, everything's okay, progressive parents. Let me just keep projecting, like, I'm in a fucking Woody Allen movie. I know.
That's so funny. You know when, um, what's her name? Allison Kahn. Uh-huh.
You know that part? Carol Kane? Carol Kane. Right, right.
Let me guess Ben Sean. Yeah, yeah. Because I knew the scene that I was, I thought myself. Yeah, exactly, exactly.
The scene in Inhal where Woody Allen's, like, let me guess, ABC. Ben Sean drawings on the wall, social summer camps. Yeah, yeah. She's, like, yeah.
That's right. You know, she's, like, pissed. I nailed it. But I'm, like, I'm not even pissed.
I'm, like, that's it. Yeah, but the more outdated version of it. Yeah. Just me and my brother.
Older, younger? He's four years older. He's also on the show. He's a comedian, too.
What's his name? Elliot. Wow. Comedic family.
Yeah. Yeah, and my, like, parents are funny, and we just, like, kind of entertain ourselves. What version of Jews are they? Like, what's your dad do?
Reform. He's a, like, financial planner. Uh-huh. Sells insurance and shit.
Sells insurance. Yeah. And your mom? Like, works with him.
Oh, really? Yeah. From the house? No, just, like, part-time.
Like, goes to his office. Oh, yeah, right, right, right. Keeps an eye on things. Exactly.
And they're, like, married for many years. Really? Yeah. That's so rare.
I know. It is rare. And they're still married and happy and proud? They're very proud.
They seem quite happy. Okay, now we're going to switch over to Abby. What, Pennsylvania, Jew? Yep.
How'd that happen? Um, well, my mom's from Jersey. My mom's from, like, Cary Hill, South Jersey. Right, right, right, yeah, yeah.
And my dad's from, like, Philly Philly. Yeah? Does he talk like Philly Philly? No, no, no.
Does he? They both do, yeah. He catches my Philly accent, but I don't know it. They both do.
He's like, my mom has a South Jersey accent. Uh-huh. I can't identify it. Sometimes people say I talk like that, but I don't know what it is.
I can't identify Philly, but I can't identify Jersey that well. I think it's similar, but I don't think I have a crazy, I'm not, like, would her. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But everyone's lost.
She's like, really? It's a subtle thing, that accent. It's like, it's pure. Sometimes it's subtle.
Sometimes it's just, it's fucking pure, like, East Coast bro shit. Like, there's an edge to it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, it's almost like, you know, a real strong Philly accent with the right momentum can actually hurt your face.
It's a lot. It's like, whoa, you go around talking like that. Right, right, right. Just settle down.
What? You know? Yeah, yeah. So wait, they met at overnight camp?
They met at overnight camp. Really? When they were kids? Yeah, when they were 15.
That's so sweet. That's very sweet. I have a very cool family life. They're not married anymore, but they're friends.
Yeah, oh, that's good. Always? Yeah, like, we did Thanksgiving together. And they both have, do they have spouses?
Yeah. And your steps? I do, I'm not, I'm not close with them. Does it happen later?
It happened, yeah. This is your stepbrother, like, all right. Yeah, I was in college, I was like, that's so, yeah. But I have an older brother, too.
Oh, really? Like, three and a half, four years older. And so he has two kids. And so once that happened, my parents were like, let's do holidays.
Sure, for grandkids. So that's working out. What's your older brother do? He's a graphic designer.
So now you have older brothers, because the theme on the show seems to be the influence of older siblings, brothers specifically, and you two were women. What, you know, was there, did you get along with them? Was there music? Did they show you the way somehow?
I was, it's so funny, so I, a lot of kind of came to comedy, I think, quicker than I did, because my brother is not in, like, this at all. Right, yeah. But I was a big tomboy, very athletic, because my brother, my brother was so into fish and the dead and all that, and so I was. Really?
Yeah, I was into all of that. So you caught the tail end of the school? Yes. The Jerry dead?
You caught the tail end of that? He died in 97, so I was too young. You missed it. But I remember the day.
Yeah, okay, your brother was pretty broken up. I was at overnight camp, and it was, like, announced. Overnight camp? Was it Jewish overnight camp?
Pretty, like, we were so reformed, so it wasn't, like, religious at all, but everybody was. Right, right. But I remember it was announced, like, over the loudspeaker. Oh, this is.
Over the loudspeaker? Oh, my God. I think it's, like, 9-11 or something. It was, it was, like, a moment, let's have a moment of silence for Jerry Garcia, and it was, like, I actually didn't love him yet, so I didn't understand the significance of that day, and so I was, high school, all my friends and I, we would go to see, like, I went to see all the reincarnations of the day.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Right, right, right, Bob Weir, and who, so was the drummers, was Rat Dog, who was it? Rat Dog is Bob Weir. Oh, it is.
Yeah. Phil and Francis, Phil Ash. Oh, right. I didn't think it was Mickey Hart.
Mickey Hart thing, there's a drum thing that happens. He does a drum thing. Like a circle. Yeah, I don't know.
I don't know. See, they're coming out again with John Mayer, actually, I haven't seen them. I listen to some of that, you know, and I listen to him handle those solos, and he's sort of a kind of a specific guitar player. It's okay.
It's okay. But you're not going to hear, like, that weird, weirable noodling, like, listen, that's fucking dead now. But, uh, and I'm not even a huge dad. I'm not even, I'm like, you know, like, dabbled.
Right, right, me too, me too. But I was so into that, because everything that my brother did. How many, like, little, like, hacky sack hippie kids were at camp that were just sort of like, no, I guess we're not playing hacky today in honor of Jerry? A lot.
It was like a thing, a lot. No hacky today. It's so funny, we hacky sack on the show, because, I mean, like, sober, we go to Philly to clean out my bedroom. You find a hacky?
Because my, yeah, we do the whole thing. We clean out all my jam bands here. And, like, my brother, I'm like, yeah, me, yeah, me, yeah, me, yeah, me, yeah, me, yeah, me, yeah, me, yeah, me, yeah, me, yeah, me, yeah, me, yeah, me, yeah, me, it's so wild that that type has existed and persisted, like, because a lot of times it's sort of fade out, but that thing, there's a constant to it. I know, it's like my dad, too.
Like, my dad was all, like, classic rock, so we just were, and I don't know if it's now, though. I wonder now if that's... The Phish thing, so I guess they're done, too, in a way, aren't they? Are they back?
These guys, they break up for a week, and they're like, we're... I wonder if the audience has any, like, high school kids. I don't know. That was, like, all my friends in high school.
We were Phish fans. Yeah. Is that what they call them? Phish fans.
Oh, it's just Phish fans. Okay. Oh, is that what it is? I don't know.
I never refer to myself. But there's that whole parking lot trip where you go to the concert, like, two days early, you know, younger than me, and we picked up some little guy hitchhiking to the show, this little guy named Eli, and we thought, like, oh, cool, little hippie elf, we'll pick him up, and then he had no place to stay, and he sort of turned evil. Like, it was like, fuck up, because, well, we got out of the hotel room, and we couldn't get rid of Eli, right? And then he starts, like, he gets a pack of matches, not wooden matches, but the book of matches, and he starts ripping off little pieces of each match, and he puts them in a bag, and he's like, I'm selling acid today.
He was just scamming fucking hippie kids selling bunk drugs, and me and my brother were like, who do we turn him into? You guys are going to bring this evil guy. He wouldn't figure out how to get to the show, but, like, who do you warn? When I'm going to follow him around the park, you're like, no, it's bullshit, you know?
And it's almost like kind of people's own fault for not recognizing acid. You're like, he's selling fake drugs, like, what? There's, like, Bizarro Cops at, like, a fish festival. What is that?
No, no, I'm not thinking about it. It's just, like, I don't know, they, like, make sure all the acid is weird. Oh, right, right, like, we got a taster, a drug taster, just a guy who walks around all fucked up and sweaty. Exactly.
Like, this is legit, this is legit. I gotta sit down. I gotta lay down. So, all right, so you grew up with that, and, like, what did your brother bring to the table?
See, that was, like, yeah, that was, like, wild. Like, my brother and I, we, like, as kids made hundreds of hours of sketch videos. We just, like, wanted to do comedy forever. What drove you to that?
I mean, who were you watching? Why did you, because you're, like, half my age almost. Is that true? What, are you, 28?
So, who were you watching? That was, like, this is why we wanted to do comedy. Okay, so I grew up, like, in the 80s and 90s. But, like, there must have been, like, something like, this fucking hilarious, we can do this.
No, just all of it. Yeah, but you knew it was something you could do. Yeah, and we, like, did, like, plays and musicals, too. For who, your parents?
No, like, at school and at camp and at the Y, and, like, you know what I mean? And, like, we were musicians and... What do you play? Drums.
Oh, yeah? And I could do rhythm, piano. Oh, yeah? And, like, what were some of the early efforts in sketch-wise and musical-wise?
Did you write songs? There was, I did write songs. There were, like, some, like, videos out there from Acoustic Cafe in high school, the songs I wrote and played. Where do people find those?
I don't know. Oh, you do know. I don't know. There's a video you recently showed me of you playing the drums in, like, a chorus thing.
Oh, my God. In a percussion ensemble. There's, like, a video online. Yeah, yeah.
But it's, like, for school, all in, like, by the way. It's, like, militant. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just on a scenario.
She's really good. That was part of our live show. We did this, like, drum battle where Alana was really good. Best part of the show.
Only through the last 50 minutes. We got two full sets. Of drums? Like, around us.
And so Alana could, like, do it, and it would, like, come to me, and I'd be, like, and the drum battle. But it was, like, drumming and then comedy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I couldn't have to.
The standard setup. Yeah, it was great. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You were the straight man to her goof.
Yeah. To her big old goof. But that was funny. Did you reveal the drum sets?
Was it a closer? Like, I mean, was it sort of, like, you know, the lights came up and there were two full drum sets? We wish we could have done that, but we didn't have enough. They had to be on stage.
They were, like, too elaborate to, like, bring it on. So you were just sitting there and be like, what's up with it? Yeah, and it was, like, at the very end. We would do it for five minutes in, like, an hour show.
And you jammed? And she just. Gaz Combo? Yeah, I really would.
I'm, like, a real nerd. I really am. Really? Yeah.
You got jazz people that you love? Yeah, you know. Brubeck. Oh, yeah?
You just grew up with that stuff? Yeah, Oscar Peterson. My dad is an incredible musician. Oh, really?
So my brother, like, trips me out. Elliot can do what my dad can do, where they can hear something and then their fingers find the keys. Elliot's sing is, like, an amazing singer. Elliot's incredible singer.
Yeah, so we just were always just had this, like, nervous energy that, lucky enough, my parents, like, saw that we could channel it in this way. So we just always perform. Isn't it wild, though, like, because I play music, but I never had necessarily. Oh, guitar.
I never necessarily had the courage to sort of pursue it as a career, because, like, I know there's a lot of many people that, like, are pretty fucking good musicians, but there's something simplifying and concise about comedy, where, like, it's very immediate. You don't have to rely on other people necessarily, what you guys, in sex situations, you do, but I wonder what it is why people who are incredibly musically talented don't necessarily sort of, like, do that. It's a harder life, and it's not as a. It's different.
Also, like, comedy is so transparent, and it's, like, easy to be, you're, like, it's easy to, like, craft your image, and you're being honest, but you're also choosing what you want to say, whereas music is, like, you truly are, like, I hope you think I'm cool, you know? Like, I fucking hope you think I look cool and sound cool, and it's, like, there's something more transparent about that, too. Well, I find that, like, you also can sort of, if you're in a band or something, you can kind of rely on, you can kind of step back a little bit, it doesn't always have to be about you, and you're, like, if you're not really on top of the song, you can be, like, no, I'm just going to, you know, fake it, you can't really fake it in comedy. Yeah, right now.
But, you know, but being a, I think being a musician is still, you know, categorically cooler, isn't it? Totally. I don't know, comedy's becoming a new thing, comedy's, like, the new stage for philosophy, it is kind of the new coolest thing. Well, it's back, like, you know, people are saying things with comedy again, and a lot of people are into it.
Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, what about you, no music? No playing?
What was it? My dad was in a band, you know, when I was growing up, he plays the drums. Really? And he caught himself out, but later, like, started taking piano lessons, so he can...
He was in a band when you were growing up? What was that band? It's so good. It was called Second Chance, and it was his high school band, reunited.
He married his high school sweetheart, and then reunited with his... Yeah, right. And, yeah, it was called Second Chance, and they would play, like, I remember they played on the art museum steps in Philly, and they'd play bars. For a day out on the steps, I think, like a little festival thing, and here's some local guys.
And they had a tape, like, with, like, a whole picture on the front. So, I always had drums in the basement of my house, and so I, like, always was into drums, too. So, when Alana, when we did the show, I, like, can't feel... Like, she's always counting.
Whenever we do it, she's like, and I'm like, I can't do that, but I can, like, kind of hold beats, but I would love to be able to play the drums, actually. Like, I can just kind of play, like, a couple beats, and I'm kind of, like, off, right? Like, yeah, it's so weird. It's, like, music, comedy, all this stuff, everything seems so much more, like, available or something these days.
Like, I was just talking to my friend, who's a DJ, talking about music, music, music, and then I'm like, music, music, music, and then I'm like, do you know what time signatures are? No. And I was like, oh. Yeah.
You know? And it's, like, just like what I was saying about counting, too. It's, like, I don't know, you can be fully immersed in music, love music, music is your life, and you don't know how to count it. Oh, sure.
And, like, you don't know how to read music. Yeah. Yeah. And, like, comedy, too, it's, like, that's so available, and information, like, even just presenting, like, you know something is so available, it's...
The weird thing about music, and I've talked about this before, is that even if it feels familiar or there's an effect to it, that you can repeat again and again. Like, you know, you can't really repeat a joke again and again. Right. But if you've got a song, there's a magic to it, where people are like, I hope they play that song.
Yeah, they want to, like... And yet it has a feeling thing, you know? And you can always go back to it. People aren't like, man, I want to hear him do that finale joke.
Maybe for one or two times. If there's a hook in the music, if the melody has a sort of, like, there's a chord progression, then I'm like, I love that. Yeah, I got you. But what's the guy saying?
I don't fucking know. He sounds good, too. There's all this musical to me. So when...
So what... Okay, so you graduate high school, and you're in Pennsylvania, and when did you decide, like, what was the first decision? Like, what were you going to do? Yeah, I kind of went around.
So my brother works with my dad, and my mom... Your dad's a graphic designer? Yeah, he's, like, an environmental graphic designer. So it's, like...
Like, he goes into spaces, like, a hospital, for instance, and, like, no one... Like, fucking lost in the hospital. Yeah. And so now he does a lot of wayfinding.
So it's, like, how you... Someone lost in the hospital, and they, like, have to read all the signs. Right. And they're bleeding.
And they're bleeding. Or, like, you know, if you walk in, and, like, someone is in... You help people get around spaces, and then the signage. Yeah.
And so also designing of the signage. So that's it. But then they also do, like, restaurant. it's very specific it's an interesting niche yeah and so everyone in my family was artists and my mom was growing up with a potter she had like a wheel oh she did so your mom was there getting frustrated at playing winning off a wheel she would do crash shows building that thing up actually she had a wheel for a very brief time because she ended up just doing it like that was the fuck the wheel day yeah she swapped the wheel for like a kiln yeah exactly mom is getting rid of the wheel did you have a kiln?
she did for a while oh my god those are energy eaters that was very brief too or was it standalone I guess it was not a big thing it was like a small thing and then she I think she sold it and then she ended up going to this place Wayne Art Center that she could just do it there I was like why are we doing this but she would do crash shows on the weekends so my family was like very it was like all art it was all visual art like I was always like drawing and so my brother went to art school in Philly and so when I was gonna go to college I was like obsessed with SNL and I did kind of perform in high school but I couldn't sing so I couldn't do any plays so what did you kind of perform? did people know you were performing? yeah I literally my main thing was I would do I would impersonate Mike Myers doing coffee talk like that was my thing I would just like do that sure and guaranteed you laugh her yeah and I could do my own thing but people knew I was into comedy but that didn't ever seem like a thing like I didn't grow up with anyone like maybe even because you're in New York that was like maybe a thing you could do right I've never seen a stand-up when you're like oh a lot of people's parents did whatever just that thing like do you have an in or do you have an in do you have an in even mentally yeah like I bet you have to do this a small thing were you encouraged in a way I know what you're saying just like do you think that this could be a job? right I think it's more people think they can now right yes I don't think when I started that it was still sort of like what are you doing?
yes and your parents were sort of like concerned yes like there's a pass yeah exactly and like YouTube too I mean even 10 years ago when we were starting it's different than now Vine Vine stars I know I look at them occasionally when someone goes it's not even a generational thing no I mean we're you know whatever we're all different ages here and it's like we are like Jesus it comes up quick man it comes up quick it was very fast but yeah I mean the transition technology and access but the weird thing is and like you guys probably know and kind of maybe feel it in a less resentful way than I do but there are people that kind of have that attention and viral traction that really don't have the goods to follow through into something and like it seems to me that you guys have that persistence and the talent and the creativity to do that but there's a lot of people that like Vine stars like alright so who are they and where are they now they're still on Vine and they got it totally and like there's that's like a cool thing about like the world I guess that quality and focus still means something yeah absolutely and sincerity and but also being able to do the fucking job when it's a job you know getting viral traction is like I mean unless you're a YouTube personality which you know I have my own opinion of but I can't really I'm not negative about it because they seem to the very nature of their popularity is usually because they're not fundamentally talented they seem like you know people like that but how did you we should get to that through how you guys started so you're dicking around you're drawing things and doing Mike Myers so I went to I didn't go to comedy I went to art school because I was like I'm good at this this is like immediate and I was like when am I going to fucking be an actor that's not I don't know anyone that has ever done that I know everyone around me that does art like my family that's not an easy career either no that is possibly more impossible so I went to school in Baltimore this is a school called Maryland Institute College of Art and most of my work is drawing and painting but then they were starting their video department and they were starting and so so I started doing videos but my it was so funny like my video work at Mike O was just me doing characters also what year did you graduate? 2006 it's like YouTube was invented in 2005 so I didn't even know it I didn't do anything but I did these characters and they would be projected on gallery walls like next to paintings and it was very serious oh really? and it was like because that's a performance artist and then I was like they were I thought they were really funny and a lot of them were improvised and I edited them and one was really emotional I saw someone getting mugged Baltimore was extremely dangerous and I saw someone I watched The Wire I'm not even kidding like I lived in a neighborhood a really nice neighborhood but it was next to the worst neighborhood and there's no one out in Baltimore so it was like very I was like sprint home from class I saw someone getting mugged outside my apartment heard it looked outside the window and this woman was getting dragged by her messenger bag and I was the one calling the cops and I'm looking there's all these other people looking out the window it was so fucked up so one of the characters I shot a character immediately after and it was very intense and I'd have to watch it again but were you the one calling the cops or were you the one I called the cops because I was like if I don't call I'm going to think no it was just sort of like using that emotion and so my junior year I sort of realized I want to be a fucking hacker what am I doing and so I moved to New York to go to the Atlantic Theater Conservatory Namath Place Namath Macy and so I went you learned how to talk directly I went for a week and I hated it I was like what am I fucking doing I had a breakdown there's a subway station it's a weird system that system right it was so stifling I couldn't react it was like what are they really saying analyze every word and that was so not that's just so not how I worked they just gutted all the emotion out of it I was like I can't even talk what about that subway stuff though so I had this breakdown on 15th and 8th Avenue where I was like I'm quitting I gotta call my dad and I was like I'm quitting this thing I moved here for like I had to quit or I'd lose my deposit and my roommate at the time who is like my roommate on our show that you never know the girl who you never see she was like you should check out this place that's resistance for you like your video work really feels like that and I had never heard of it I was so like SNL yeah and I just didn't know was that the old one the one that was on 20 the one with the weird sort of seats no it was the new one I think it was pretty new and I went by myself and I don't even know what show I saw and I was like this is it right this is it and I quit and I just started there and I got it oh thank god for that fucking roommate you were like if it wasn't for that girl I wrote her an email and I was like thank you for where's she at she's at the Atlantic it didn't end great with us but that tip of the information she changed I honestly don't think about none of my friends are in comedy I mean all my friends are in comedy now but no one what would have happened if you didn't get that tip of the information you would have went home crying and just sort of gotten a job probably at your dad's office or something for a while well I was an illustrator too so I think maybe I would have done that I was trying to be an actor but it was such a direct correlation between me being so like fuck this because I wanted to be a dramatic actor I wanted to be like mammon and I was like fuck what am I doing and that was such a clear turn because comedy is a portal into all of that because in any given sketch or scene you can be the dramatic one so let's go now to your journey to New York what happens so you're a drummer you've got a cool brother you're writing sketches you're doing musical stuff your version of dicking around and what was the white light moment Elliot goes to NYU and I'm like okay I'll go there too and it's not for acting just to go and be in the city and he's like Elliot shows me Stella I remember when they were making videos and shit Stella over when it was down like when I could get into their shows that was a big room in the basement and they had Blue playing music and then they'd have the comics on yeah and like I I more just saw them like whatever did you grow up with the state or was that still was that after you no yeah I did but I was really young a little young but whatever I liked it you know I watched it later but Stella videos was to me I was like oh that was like oh it's not just SNL and then Elliot was like there's this theater operates this brigade we should take classes when you're here when you're in the city what year's that? early 2000s post 9-11 now like 2003 or something and you're like what 19?
in 2003 I'm like 16 and then I'm like okay in two years I'll graduate and I'll come to the city and we'll do that but like to my parents I'm like I'm gonna be a psychologist you know what I mean so like I that was the goal which like in college between comedy my own therapy and nervous breakdowns and psych classes it was like a truly a cohesive education it like all was right you know real nervous breakdowns are just panic attacks I mean her breakdown was like a career shifting like you know dream breaking business yeah like yeah like anxiety depression like little menia like you know standard stuff yeah standard Jewish shit yeah standard Jewish shit so I was like just college was like my job and comedy so you were there you went the whole run yeah you gotta finish I had to get a degree and like my parents I don't know they just like they wanted that and I gave that to them and they like got me to the city so I was like using it like fulfilling their thing and fulfilling my thing right and then yeah so I started taking classes in college with your brother yeah with my brother but also like we were doing we produced shows together at UCB yeah we had this one show that was awesome high school talent show it was just sketches and people it was just a variety show people would come and do their sketches but you know we also were like finding our own voices and I did some stand up and we were just running around the city you know that particular time you were seeing shows every night doing shows every night it was so fun it was my college and that had by that time comedy had detached itself entirely from mainstream comic clubs so like that was the alternative scene in New York like they were still the seller and stand up but that was not the world it was like Rufifi with Eugene and Tisdale yeah exactly you were never going I never went to those big comedy clubs no no of course yeah I know there's a whole generation it took me a long time to accept it but you know comics was a weird thing though oh yeah I saw you well they were trying to do a high you did and the Ochi's too was it a good night for me at comics like sometimes I remember that could go either way but they were integrating alternative acts into the shows and comics trying to make that thing work we got into comedy when like I like that you didn't answer whether I was good enough well okay so you were really good you blew me away you were really fucking honest but you had just gotten divorced so I was like holy shit comedy is honesty and tragedy and it was amazing but it wasn't like it was like whoa it was amazing I don't get a lot of that it was amazing thank you but we got into comedy when it started being like alt and awkward weirdly we started at the exact same time but not yeah we started like the fall of 2006 doing stand up were you talking or just working and then performing like forming teams as a version of me almost like your videos oh so you did a character kind of you needed a character I love it so I've talked to a few people I've had a whole room here and Besser and some of the original UCB people and I've had people who went through the UCB program and through the Groundlings program but like UCB now is like the training ground for comedy in a lot of ways so what is the environment because I miss it I go to stand up shows sometimes but I don't have a sense of I know I've talked about this with people but I don't remember so tell me again what is it that because you sign up for classes and it's primarily improv right and then you just stay there until you meet people it's sketch and the main track is like take the classes 101 through 401 it's a little different now and then you like audition until you get on a Harold or a Mod team and then there's this track it's like a mini college and I also have to say it has grown exponentially since we started too I don't really know the temperature there but like it's like a school it's like walking into a small college it's nuts I feel like it's probably similar to when you were doing stand up and you meet this community it's almost like you're paying to meet a community rather than you're doing stand up and you're just meeting them from going to shows this is like you're going every week to train but you are training and you're learning these principles but also you have a theater that feels like a home base for you you can go every night and then you can go to other offshoot shows and it was like thank God I didn't know anyone in New York and all of a sudden you have this the whole world the difference is it's collaboration with stand ups yeah we have a community but we're all sort of like well yeah we're kind of rose yeah yeah yeah doing bits and bills well not even wins but you're sort of like no that's what that guy's doing I get it I'm not into it but there was never a sense of like hey we should all get together and put a thing together the thing I like about stand up though is because improvisers do bits too but I like in stand up when you're just leaning against the wall and you're in the shadows and somebody's performing and then you like talk about like the darkest shit as succinctly as possible of what's going on that I like that's like very real about it we're very good at leveling everything yeah yeah there's a cynicism to it but after years of talking to people in here you know I've grown to really appreciate and surrender some of my old guy you know stand up warrior bullshit about do's and how comedy really works because you know having done a TV show and actually having the opportunity to collaborate on a radio show too like I love it but I would never have thought to do it as a stand up you know what I mean it's just sort of there's an isolation to stand up so I think it's amazing that when you go to some place like UCB and you do all these things you're learning how to write direct produce perform innately because you all are sort of like well I got an idea let's execute the idea you know we do this we do that so it's an amazing thing it's like you want to be it is amazing but also creating that space is amazing like what you've done with your podcast you've created this space and brought like the podcast like a new level where like polar I mean the original UCB4 like I'll never know what literally building that alt community in New York feels like they brought that like Chicago thing to New York they created like some alternative to SNL there's like one thing to be like in the channel and to like really appreciate the path someone's like carved but then also you kind of have to and honestly like us with a web series a group you know and then they started doing things on their own and then they opened the first theater and I don't you know I don't know what their intention was in terms of building an empire but they built their own space and then I think the school came later but they needed a place to work and then the attention came to the original four and then it became a showcase for people and then it just blew up but they were just you know like you they were just sort of like we're in the city yeah yeah we were like it was so inspiring to us so we started doing broad city of listeners because we could not get on these Herald teams or mob teams we could not we were like three or four years in we were like doing we thought we were doing we would have been on an improv team for two years with a bunch of dudes performing at like under St. Mark's and different theaters and could not get we were like fuck this is like a way we can't get on you couldn't get on the Herald team no or mob which is the sketch we were just like fuck really you guys were not making the cut no and so actually inspired because we couldn't get on we created the thing because we were like you know what fuck this we were funny we were going to do this but also that's what they did I love that you're driven by spite it was like spite no but also it was also inspired by them because it wasn't the UCD4 being like you can't get on the team it was like oh no but they were looking for their own spot too and that's why they right So we were like We're just going to do our thing Like our friendship On this team And just hanging out We were like There's something here We were just This banter is funny And just started making these videos Because we were going to Do characters We just wanted to make something That wasn't going to disappear After the moment you fucking say it But then that turn Of being like a mentor Was about us We were like Which is like Well that's very sort of First person experiential honest The things that you're talking about That you gravitated towards Right So how did you shoot the web series Who had the camera There was this thing My son says It's called the Improv Resource Center Oh really Which was like An old beta site It's got black With green And it was You could post If you I'm doing a I'm doing a short film I'm casting Or I'm looking for Improv Resource Center Mostly UCB kids And we found this Like there's like Video services And I was like Oh there's just our friend Rob Is like looking to do this Rob for the first season Directed like Of the web series Of the web series How long were they I think 10 of 18 So there were 18 total There were 18 total In the web series And how long were the bits Three to five minutes So they were singular sketches It was like ideas That we like I have a notebook That when we first met And like I remember One of our first thoughts Was like When we were meeting We just wanted to get We still have these stupid rules As though it's like Liquor after noon Representing 11 Yeah And we were like What eggs All the eggs explode At 11.01 Just conversations Right right right And we were like Let's just we'll do like Every sketch And we started like Writing shit down And like we didn't realize That we were creating a world But then later after Two years of making 35 videos It was like shit Like we're These are all slices Of a world Of a larger show And where did some of the The themes of the Comedy Central show Sort of start to happen Like you know Bed Bath and Beyond Oprah Winfrey You know your sort of Control freakness Your sort of like Adventurousness And somewhat inspired What would you call Stonerness I mean all based on I just like it I did what you're laying down All those things are based on Like some sort of seed Of one of us Right My mom worked at Bed Bath and Beyond When I was a kid No And so like She was friends with all The workers there But like I didn't have Handshakes with them But I was like But you knew the world But my roommate Like my other roommate My mom would send me These coupons So I had an envelope Of like 50 Bed Bath and Beyond Coupons Because I couldn't afford To buy shit But I was like When I can I will go and buy All the shit I want And I came home from work And he was like So I got rid of your coupons They all expire And I was like They don't expire They don't fucking expire And so like we You know We had this Google Doc From when we had made The web series That was like this Elaborate spreadsheet Of like conversations Moments Anything that we thought Was funny We would add in this Google Doc That we shared And so So if you're out In your world Doing other things You just kind of Post it on And you can go through it Yeah And it's just like You know What can't you let go of What keeps cracking up So who can we give that So my roommate's boyfriend On the show Of course he's going to throw The envelope of coupons He doesn't know The fucking thing And also Hannibal Had been in the web series And we kind of Pitched the show With him in mind With Gemberling in mind Just all the And then And then all those Oh yeah John Gemberling plays But like you know These like cells Of the spreadsheet Started connecting to characters And the world Started coming together Also like Even just like Talking to Amy about it I remember When did that start to happen Amy was in our finale Web series Of the web series Where we were trying to get But when did you get Like I know you were at the school And you were having issues Integrating into these groups But when did Amy Poehler Say like reckon with you When did she be like What are you guys up to How did that happen We didn't We just asked her To be in the finale Of the web series We just like Got in touch with her And it was like She's never going to say As to being in it How did you get in touch I mean what did you say Generationally Our teacher had been her student And our teacher We asked him A teacher of ours Will Hines And he was going to direct A webisode And we pulled out last minute And we took our shit So fucking seriously And we were so upset And he was like He was like Oof I fucking owe you one And then when it came to it We were like Hey dog Remember that thing So do you think She'd ever be into it We were like We had written a pilot We were like We're going to go out And pitch this as a show This was like spring of 2011 We were like We wrote a pilot We're going to end the web series And it was like a bang And that's when we reached out Just to be in the finale Of the web series And then we were going to go That summer out here Try and pitch it But then when we met her It was like It clicked so hard We had this huge body of work We had the pilot ready She asked about You guys ever think about this for TV So you weren't even on her radar Really until you asked her to be on it When she said yes to be on the web series She was like I would love to have seen it I would love to And we died We were like This is fucking crazy We never met her We just saw her Where did you learn that I guess you learned that You learned that at UCB That you can write a pilot And go try and sell it in Los Angeles Where did you get that information We had a manager who was Oh who was that Her name was Sam Safer She was extremely good at Oh yeah Encouraging and like crystallizing Still with her No So what the So Amy did the last episode And then she was like What are we doing You know Amy Oh yeah So you know she's like You guys have a You guys think about this for TV And we're like We're thinking about a pilot You know that little like That little lip thing So she's like Thinking about it Just doing on it And then we like met up after Out of wherever The agency To be like That was a season We say You know Now this is a season We're telling you So we like made these parties Where we have Sarah Schaefer, Hannibal, John Friedman Who were in the They were in the season So come to stand up We'll show You know whatever And then for that finale We were like We sent Amy the video And we were like Met her webisode And we were like People went nuts Everybody fucking loved it And if we're like Planning on selling this We have a pilot If you would ever be available And interested in Being attached to produce it We would love to work with you And we were like No way but we have to ask She was doing Parks She had just had Abel What the fuck I mean I called Alana And she was like Oh she was in the middle of nowhere Alana We had worked at the same job This whole year That Alana on the show works at It was like a Groupon kind of company And Alana quit her job No you quit when he was going to be In the web series Right There was something I like knew I mean I gave him six weeks notice I was really scared And I wanted to save my money But I told him I'm a good girl It was crazy But I was like I knew I knew it was cumulative You know It's interesting It's a weird That moment where you're like I'm going to be in show business for real It's a weird moment Because like you're taught Even if you have supportive and good parents You know they instill this basic sort of need for security Yeah they were still like What are you doing Right Who's Amy Poehler Yeah they were like This is exciting But are you making money on this Even still yeah Even still it's like Could have still had that job during Sure they never let it go Just because they don't If you're not Seinfeld They don't get it Yeah yeah No one knows I talk to my friends They don't watch It's not for them But like our parents actually got on board Like during the web series Because it was just like We were also working We had like jobs It was just like good And there was something probably building there And then with Amy Then they like flipped and like got it And then so we came out here That when we had planned to But now Amy was like in the room with us It was a very different thing With the piloting But when you did that Those parties or those showcases Or you know for the web series Was that primarily an industry Type of showcase or just a party No It was just all our friends But did the industry come Nobody So there was nobody We tried though No they come For the web series We had like lists Remember my phone You know how I have everyone's phone numbers Yeah So we were in the web series We tried to like reach out to people And a friend of mine was a casting director For like the Food Network And she was like I have this list And so on my phone now I have like everyone Because I downloaded it And I like everyone's phone number In Hollywood With Becky now With Becky But like Abby had his number Like 25 years ago But I didn't know who he was And I downloaded his fucking contacts So we tried to invite him From years ago You've been with him a few years No we're not with him He produced his phone Because you're a pretty hard person No we don't have an mentor No like he's just produced Because of Amy That's what Becky's job is Now you get his name on things Yes yes yes He has like one of those Fucking like the thing That you brand a cat He has that and puts it Like on the card He's an excitable guy He's like you guys Hey what music do you like How's my hair I see Thomas Hayden church When I think of him Oh really He's a little more amped up Than Thomas Hayden Becky's like an excitable puppy sometimes Yeah it's cool to like Not work with him Because it's just like I love you Yeah you can like him Yeah it's funny though I can't picture him in New York He's such a like Kelly dude These guys like their job Like it took me a long time To understand how show business works You know and you know that It's a business And you know he was like Pretty slick then I mean he's loosened up now Like he was always into music That was always the thing He was really good friends With a friend of mine Who was a music manager And almost seemed like That was what he was More interested in personally But he never got involved with it So he could still enjoy it He has the look He looks like he should be a musician He loves music He's a real power pop guy But yeah he looks slick He had shorter hair He used to quaff it back He wore paint Like back before He earned the right to be casual At all times He had the suits He had everything Oh yeah Becky was pretty slick And then he relaxed back To his state he always wanted to be in Alright so season 3 starts This Wednesday 10 episodes And you've been given The opportunity to work Like I look at the guest stars I know a lot of these people Seth Morris I love I love Seth Morris He's so good Sedaris is great Dredge is great Matt Jones is great Janine is great But Bob Alavan Holy fuck I mean to me I want to just meet that guy Well Susie Esman and Bob Alavan Susie's great Susie Asalana's mom Is I think She should win some sort of She should win awards all the time With the fact that I don't think there's ever been A better pairing of mother-daughter We thought about it for you It's insane We thought about it for you It's crazy That was crazy that that materialized Because we thought about her for you Because you watched her on Curb Did you ever go see her do stand-up? Yeah she's fucking hysterical She is hysterical She's now like so She's like over it Over stand-up I'm like please She does it still We're taking a break She's one of those people That had been around forever On the New York comedy scene Like when you're my generation Which I think is I'm a little younger than her Maybe But when you see people At that point in their career Get a break like her But all of a sudden The world gets to meet them You're like oh that's so fucking great You know But what was it about Was he fun or he's like He's great He's like gentle and So funny Yeah and very much just like You know that person that you see He's like funny and interesting He's very interesting Knows a lot of shit Wants to talk about a lot of stuff He's like great on a set He's a great actor He's one of those people who Oh yeah He's a fucking Midnight Cowboy My god Oh I have to watch that again That's fine No for someone who's been in everything You know our show Is not like big We don't have like a big production It's like Bob's not They don't know when There's no trailers There's nothing And they're like hanging with us While we're like resetting up Like And that just makes me like You get to see people Like someone like that He's been in fucking everything And he's fine with that Chilling with us But that's the amazing thing About having the opportunity To do your own show Because I didn't know that either Before I did my show I talked to a lot of people And a lot of actors and stuff But when you're actually casting There's that moment where you're like That guy would do it They hold a different place in our mind Because we see them in movies But ultimately Depending where they are with their career Or what they're doing on a day to day basis They're like I'd like to work And this seems funny And they seem fun And that's their job It's mind blowing to me Because when we're casting I'm like I love that guy From all those movies We can just have him come in and read for this Or just cast him Yeah yeah he'll work And I'm like what Because they're like superheroes to you And they're like some of your play thing And like willing to do what you say And you can see their genius And they bring to it Everything that you want usually That's crazy I do want to say one thing Or maybe a couple things Because when I first watched part of the show When it first came out I was like I'm not sure I get this I know they're great But I'm not sure I get it And then as I watch more The thing that you know It's one of those movies Your shows You do have to get the hang of it Like there's a groove to it That's specifically yours And it is a little generational for me But it's comedy So like I had this problem With Arrested Development too If you don't lock in And sort of like It's like playing a record a few times Like once you get to In the middle of the first season I get the groove But like Especially with the pilot Into the first season Right right right Also like as community performers And as something I experienced And I watch other community performers You're not going to get comfortable You're just going to have to Take the hit for a few episodes You know in your mind Like this is going great But it's going to get better There's nothing I can do To make that happen any faster Other than get comfortable And the more you get comfortable You're like no And then you're like it's golden But the one thing That I thought was amazing Is that there's a lot of stuff About New York City And it's really a celebration Of New York City As you guys live in it now And there's a lot of stuff That I remember From when I was living there And there's very specific things That somehow or another You know you've managed To make new again Which is a great testament To the talent of you guys That I'm sitting there Like you know Watching the square drug bit And I'm like no I know where this is going I'm like oh I didn't go Where I thought it was I thought you were going to get burned I just immediately thought Like she's buying drugs And watching the square We've all done that And you get home You're like this isn't pot But then it like Right then it goes I didn't even know Where you thought it was going to go I thought you were just going To get some bad weed And smoke it anyways And it was like a spice You know or just garbage Gotcha It was just like a confusion Like my thought was like She's going to insist on smoking it anyways And try to figure out Whether you guys are high or not And you just sit and go nope But that didn't happen But that just wrote a sketch That's so funny But then when he thought That was a funny turn There's a lot of that stuff in there Where I didn't know exactly How it was going to go And a lot of that comes from You know using such funny actors too It's so cool to hear you say that What you just said about the show Because you're such a You're like such a prolific comedian So you watching it And not expecting what is about to happen Is like oh jeez That's the worst you can watch Exactly I know what it is too I love that That's what we hope Even if it's a little thing But like the weird thing about me Is like It's very hard for me To sort of get sketch in general You know like Like if I watch SNL I'm like There are these ways There might not be a joke there But there's a repetition That becomes funny So like I have to contextualize things And a lot of it Even when the dog walker episode And the male thing Going to that place Where it's just that lady Like metaphorically and cinematically That emotionally makes sense to me Because there's that feeling And the idea If you had to ever go pick something up At FedEx And you're in Queens You had to go over there By the cemetery Yeah it's insane It's only during work hours It's insane But like all those things And also because you're drawing From the energy And the possibilities of New York City It must be incredibly exciting To people who don't have Any experience in New York City That you're able to sort of You know like it's funny Because you watch your show And I saw that blog on Louis show Like there's this world of comedians Operating with New York as a backdrop That's really a celebration of the city Which I always like Yeah thank you Yeah I just want to say Oh the other thing I want to say That I think is great about the show Is that like there's a lot of things That try to overcompensate With you know what they're doing With you know gender And ethnicity and sexuality And you guys come from a generation And are living in New York where that stuff doesn't even need to be addressed, it just is. And I think that's a great thing.
And I think that, you know, also, like, you know, there's something about, someone brought up that there's, you know, the, I don't know, I don't know if I'm around the word feminist or anything else, but there's a sort of comfort to having, you know, young women voices that are confident and not afraid to be filthy and sweaty and shitty and farty. Get ready for season three. Because it's a lot of that. Starting right off of that.
It's great. Fucking gross, yeah. But it's important because. We are so farty.
We are, it is. We watched, like, the color of one of the episodes, and we were like, oh, what have we done? But you're doing human shit. Sort of, like, imposed roles that just became what it is.
That there was not that dialogue or that world of women that is that fucking, you know, just human and shitty. It's good. I'm glad you guys are human and shitty. Thanks.
And farty. Thanks. Sweaty. And putting things in your vaginas.
So sweaty. So totally. You are really talking about. You're really describing what their season perfectly for us.
Well, good luck with it. Thank you. It was a pleasure talking to you. This is such a pleasure.
Thank you for having us. Pleasure and an honor. That was fun. I like them.
Enjoy their show. Maybe I'll play some guitar. Let me get it set up. Boomer lives.