If I told you that I have a lot of anxiety about finishing this song. I didn't know you had a lot of anxiety about it. I knew it had been on your mind. Well, you were talking over it.
You're not even trying to mask it in some way? It's not great. I did it this morning. First thing.
Blue is just making a lot of wild gestures around his face. You can't see that because we're still waiting for his laptop to come. And then we'll be back on the YouTubes in the TikToks. But in the meantime, you just have to listen to our sweet, sweet voices.
I do use my hands a lot when I speak. You're a real hand talker. Fingers and all. Full hand.
According to Ancestry. Ancestry. Ancestry.com. Holy shit, guys.
How much is it in your family? When I find out, Ancestry.com. Ancestry.com. Oh.
Oh. Oh. Oh. That's cool.
Oh, wow. Okay. Well, some might say Ancestry.com is Ancestry.com, depending on what they find out. Well, there is a rich, rich history of Ancestry in all of our pasts.
Oh, my gosh. I might have to go back a few generations. That sounds like an SNL skit, like, Ancestry.com. Oh, man.
Why haven't they done that yet? I'd like a check for $500, please, for that idea you guys to send it our way. Thank you. Oh, what's this?
Backtrack, retraction. Mm-hmm. Same for retraction. Backtracking, retraction, retraction.
Backtracking, retraction time. Well, it's gone on long enough. I have, I've speed a few half-truths or just complete untruths here and there. Wait, lose holding a notebook.
What happened to the tiny truth notebook? Now you're holding a big one. It's so tiny, I lost it. You lost your podcast little fact notebook?
I did. What's that? Right over there. That's not it.
That's a journal from a long, long time ago. Don't look at it. Okay. Okay.
So anyway, I'd like to say- Where did you get this notebook? I got it in Australia. Oh. Oh, okay.
Go ahead. Okay. It's in my own. Didn't you watch my- Oh, is it in your sub stack?
Didn't you watch my sub stack movie, honey? I did. That's $50. Australian.
Oh. It's like 30 American. Anyway, last episode I said that, um, Amelene by Urge Everkill was in Pulp Fiction. I don't think you said Pulp Fiction.
You just said in a quint and turntine movie. What I was thinking of was Girl You'll Be a Woman Soon. Originally by Neil Diamond. That was in Pulp Fiction.
Okay. But I would like to point out there's a pretty good reason for this mix up. Amelene, the Hot Chocolate Song original from 70s, and Girl You'll Be a Woman Soon are both songs about grooming a partner. Really?
Yeah. Girl You'll Be a Woman Soon. Soon You'll Need a Man. And then Amelene is about this guy who- there's a young woman who was very talented from an early age.
And he's like, I'm going to make the biggest star of the world I've ever seen. So I was back-track-retraction-ing. Okay. I do have a harding, right?
Yeah, I was out of sh- reaching out and- I was out of sh-retching. Back-tracking-retraction time. Some things need to- I need to rectify a few things. A while ago, I don't know what number episode.
Oh, this is the 69th episode, by the way. This one is? Yes. That's hot.
Okay. Great. You did. I got a few messages from that one.
I apologized to all the locals. They mostly locals that are, you know, that are like, what the fuck are you talking about? Yeah, I got a few of those messages. Yeah, that's true.
I was talking out my anus. My anus. But what we were on- we did do a cruise of- of the Connecticut River, a little short little cruise. We did for Loo's 55th birthday of June.
Sure. Yeah, I organized a family like birthday thing where we took a cruise on the Connecticut River. I wanted to know more about the Connecticut River. And I had never been on the Connecticut River and it's a very large river that I've grown up near most of my life.
So I wanted to know more about it. It was really nice. If you live in Western Mass, I recommend doing a Connecticut River boat tour. It was fun.
It was. And I found out during that cruise, there was a fun fact that at some point that the Connecticut River was dead. It had been poisoned so extensively by the mills, the paper processing, the fabric plants. I mean, the Connecticut River was a big industrial belt, an early industrial belt in the late 1800s and early 1900s.
During industrial revolution? Yes. It was like, yeah. And the water was revolted.
So they were like, look at this nice big flowing trash can. Exactly. I like it. This trash can is moving.
Right. So Catherine Hepburn, looking upon the Connecticut River, which apparently, late just, she lived basically on the Connecticut, she said, oh look, it's the most beautifully landscaped cesspool on Earth. So the Connecticut River did run black for a very long time. You could not possibly swim in it.
Okay. And the fish population was decimated, et cetera, et cetera. But it's made of comeback. Did you spend some time on Wikipedia?
I did. Great. But it's made of comeback. So you can swim in it now.
Well, there was bodies in it voluntarily. Yes. You can be in it now. I mean, alive.
They were alive. And there's fish. They are fish. They are fish.
However, when we did go on that cruise, look, I, looking at the banks of the Connecticut and in the, in the water itself, I didn't see a lot of life. But that could be due to the invasive species of plants that pretty much have created this monoculture, you know, this, this mat. They call it a monoculture mat that maybe lies in the river and does make it like. So it's not quite like.
Is diversified maybe. It doesn't look, you know, so, so anyway, the river is, is definitely, it's the most extensively dammed river in the United States. I mean, people, this is where the first settlers went, of course, to the Indians before that. But the Pecumtuck, I believe, owned this, where we are, this sort of region of the Connecticut River was the Pecumtuck.
That's right. Yep. So anyway, so I just wanted to get that. It's been bothering me.
I didn't want, I, I didn't want to offend the locals, and especially the people whose lives involved the river. There are so many people who do are, are really actively involved in keeping the river ecologically healthy and also continuing to improve it. And it's still not still like a bit of an embattled body of water. It's very controlled.
Interesting. So I just wanted to say that. Yeah. Well, thank you.
Lulu Arlo. Okay. Yeah. I didn't know what to say.
I didn't know what to say. So I, I'm just looking at you and you're, you're sharing your information and Pat my factful back. I'm reaching, I'm reaching. Okay.
Okay. I'm petting your arm with your whole, I'm ready to patch that thing, by the way. Oh. I'm ready to patch it.
Lou is wearing his, this, he, you know, he's got a little collection of J. Who, cashmere sweaters, those are kind of like his everyday sweaters. I wear cashmere. People, people comment a lot.
I love his sweaters. Every day. Well, that's the, that's it. There's really no big secret.
We're not gate keeping. It's just J. crew cashmere. Yeah.
Anyway, but there's a big asshole in the elbow and. Kind of like it makes me feel like I'm a scruffy. Oh no. Well, really, but it's going to keep getting bigger.
Would you like me to just stitch around the hole so it doesn't get bigger and you just keep the hole there? Give me a patch. I'm ready for a patch. I'm, I'm interested to see what sort of patch you put on it.
Okay. Yeah. I'm not going to match. No, I'm saying you don't want to put something on there that's going to be like you don't really want to put a woven on a knit.
Okay. Well, although that's not true because you see sweaters that have like suede patches and shit like that, but. This is, this is your my unraveling sweater. Yeah.
Speaking of. Oh my God. Oh, wow. Is this an opportunity to mention this?
Big announcement. Yes. Dinosaur Jr. are going on a fucking like arena tour.
I know. Arena tour opening for flaming lips and weezer. Weezers doing the blue album start to finish. We had to figure out what the blue album was yesterday.
My hunch was it. It was their first record. Adele was confused. You see the first record which has the sweater song.
Yeah, where your sweater comes undone. That's such a fun one. If you want to destroy my sweater. Oh, hello.
So wait a minute. When did they say it? It's been a while. It's been a while in the 90s.
I think I was in high school in that song. I'm driving him a little. Anyway, yeah, that's so exciting. I just feel like how wild.
Weezers, the headliner, then the flaming lips and then dinosaur Jr. will do some like sweet little opening set. Half an hour. Half an hour.
It's like they really got it right on that one. Oh, the light up. Yeah, the light up is fantastic. Oh, weezer on impressions.
What's this? Aren't you rutting? I could keep talking about the Weezer Flaming lips dinosaur Jr. To her.
Losing annoying nuggets. Lou found another annoying nugget. Let's listen to it now. Oh, okay.
Yep, I found this yesterday. Watch until you find out. Know your own kneecap. The second mind.
Welcome to a new program that you've never seen before. Today on Today's Show, we will show you many things you've never seen before. Including some other things that you might have seen. But first, the commercial.
Do you recognize that alarm? Do you realize what kind of emergency that alarm signifies? Well, you better know, because someday you'll use it. Back to our show.
Today, as I promised, many things you've never seen before. Don't be frightened. Some people turn and run when they see such a sight. But it's not necessary to run.
Because it is isolating from you. It can affect you at all. And now, something you've never seen. Something you've never seen.
Due to a loss in transmission, you will not be seen. Something you haven't seen before. Instead, something you probably seen. I was going through my old cassettes yesterday.
Because I've been making this collage. Making a collage a 15 minute collage. For a very special compilation record. But I found that little cassette that I made.
When did you do that? That'd be like 95 maybe. Just for fun? I was really sick.
In bed. Okay. And I had my portable tape recorder and the batteries on the tape recorder were going down which means it records slower. And so it's faster when you play it back.
So I was in bed and I was on a ton of cough syrup. And I got stoned. And then I started making stuff up into the tape recorder. There's another part of that.
The beginning part of that is actually on the very first full conclusion. The third mind. It's called... It's on the first full conclusion cassette.
But that's the continuation of it. And I thought I'd just throw it in case the conversation got slow. Did it? I don't know.
We started talking about the arena tour. And I'm like, it's going to be an interesting tour. I'm excited for that for you. I think that'll be fun because it'll give you, I think the difference between that and doing the regular version.
What I've enjoyed during the times that Dino has done kind of like joint tours like that. Like when you were with Primus, for example. You've actually seen these style tours. Totally.
I like it. I think it's fun because then you're traveling with other bands like in closer proximity and you're kind of all around each other. And also... I have to say that's not entirely true.
And especially in an arena. Okay. You're oftentimes where the bands are put in the arena. We're very separated.
I know that when I've done real arena tours, I didn't see like, you know, when we played a huge arena with the Red Hot Chili Peppers, you wouldn't see them. They would be behind so many layers of like security in the... It's all in these locker rooms underneath these enormous domes. So you don't really see people.
But I imagine the flaming lips like... Well, I was going to say you're not going to like ignore him. You're going to hang out. Next thing you know, I mean he's...
Wayne will find us. Yeah. We're going to hang out with Wayne. Come on.
Come on. Yeah. You never know. Rivers might be popping.
I mean, I don't know. I'm just saying that like... It might be a little elusive, which I think is... Well, when you were with Primus, even though they were on their own buses, obviously they were all on your own buses, but...
Like, I mean... That's our smaller shows. Okay. Or a little smaller.
This is big places. Okay. So I'm never going to see Wayne or Rivers. Don't be disappointed if you don't.
I just don't think that's going to be the case. Okay. Well, we can definitely go find Wayne. Yeah.
If you like. Let's go find Wayne. Let's go find Wayne. Well, I'm curious to know if he'll have his babies with him on tour at all.
He has like two little boys and I'll be curious to know if they'll be at any of the shows. That'd be cool. No. They look adorable.
Maybe. Yeah. I don't know if they travel with him much, but it just would be fun because I'm like, oh, is there a time I should bring Izzy out to a show? Because there's a show in Boston and I'm like, well, since you're playing early, should I bring Izzy and then we can hang out?
Opening for the Foo Fighters. Uh-huh. Fenway Park. Yeah.
Big. Never saw them. Yeah. Never.
Yeah. I know you and Dave Rolle have just still haven't. I was. I did actually.
Dave and I hung out briefly. I mean, you know, we were like group. It's not like we were hanging out, but it was an Oslo. Played a big outdoor show and we were around as the Foo Fighters were doing their pre-show ritual.
What's that? Which involved taking shots of some sort of brown alcohol? Really? And listening to Old Hardcore.
And in this case, like Dave was actually, he opened up this, he had this big flight case that had his, you know, stereo system and it was super cool. He opened it up and then he was playing the very first Be Coroitson album. Really? Getting hyped for the Foo Fighters show by listening to Be Coroitson, which I was like, hey, be Coroitson.
First album? Dave again. Bunnies. Right there.
Right in the pocket. Could be brothers. We can't wait till Dave discovers Ron Preshins. He's just going to be like, what?
How was my life before this? I'm so empty. And now. Well, anyway, I don't know.
Maybe I'll never see. The flaming lips, maybe I'll never see. Weezer, I don't know. So then who cares?
Whatever. Go have fun. People do, they tend to glamor. They're like, whoa, big places, big bands.
It's like, it becomes... I don't know about glamorizing. I'm simply saying it seems interesting. People do.
People glamorize it. You are mostly in like a cavernous sort of... It's very isolating. If you're going between that and the bus, you know, not to get too dark here.
Oh, no. What I was going to say before you were like, never say chime, blah blah blah blah. What you could do, which I think is more available for these things where you're like the opener opener, is you can visit more than with friends and family if they're in town because it's an early show for you. You know, so it's nice.
Someone's got to find me. It's not easy. Well, I knew, yeah, I remember when Dino opened up for Phoenix, it was supposed to be Red Rocks. And I came out there for it.
It was supposed to be Red Rocks because my girlfriend lived in Colorado at the time. All the girlfriends and wives came. We're like going to Red Rocks. Yeah, we all came out for it.
Dinosaur Jr is going to open up for Phoenix at Red Rocks. Red Rocks, Red Rocks. Whoa, we're going to go to Red Rocks. And then the weather.
The weather. Yeah, so it was shifted to like a hockey place. Yeah, some sort of indoor. I was talking about like a janky little hockey stadium.
I don't know. But it, but Phoenix was around. Really? Yeah, I don't remember that lead singer guy was like hanging out in your dressing room.
I didn't notice. I didn't speak with him. He looked very normal. He looks very normal.
He's like, do you know what I mean? He looks like just like John who walked by. You're like, who's that? I don't know.
It's just, he doesn't like look like a rock star. You know what I mean? They are, I mean, down to earth for lack of a better word. Yes, exactly.
Although they are stratospheric. Truly, truly huge. But they are so kind of like, you might not know who just walked by. I mean, you know what I mean?
They blend. Anyway, I do remember that that he was like around and he had a very nice smile and he was like chatting and popping around. Well, we're going to see. But that was, yeah, that was weird because the audience was, it was almost like at Red Rocks, maybe if it was open, you could have just like played the show, whatever.
But since it was in that like indoor arena thing, you were very aware that people were there for Phoenix. You know what I mean? Oh, yeah. And it was like all these, you know, women and younger women up front like, oh, then they'd see Dinosaur Junior and they're like, oh my God.
Oh, no. The wall of knives. The ugly wall of knives. The part of the ears are just.
Yeah, I have to really, I have to sort of dissociate when we play those shows. I'm like, I do not look out. I do not look at this. It was pretty funny.
I have to say seeing like, yeah, they were like, what is this going to end? It's really, yeah, because I mean, chances are no earplugs. Well, that's why I also think that this is a better lineup. The Weezer, Flaming Lips Dinosaur Junior.
You guys are, it makes much more sense. And people who like Weezer also probably like Dinosaur Junior. Same with Flaming Lips. Weezer plays, it has a very, very young crowd.
Do you think that they're going to be like freaked out by Dinosaur Junior? No, they'll be fine with it. They'll be fine. I think they'll be fine.
It's only going to be at half an hour. It's at the very beginning of the show. The Flaming Lips will wash away. They will be the balm that will just, any damage that has been done by Dinosaur Junior.
The sound. Yes, Wayne, Sue them, bring them to another terrestrial, extraterrestrial. And then Weezer comes out and plays fucking by the knowledge. I know.
I've never seen Weezer play, but yeah, I'm psyched. I'm psyched to see Weezer and also. I'm hoping that the original drummer who's still in the band, but he often goes and plays other second guitar now. I really liked his drumming on the first two Weezer records.
Hopefully he's playing, Hey, Weezer from Connecticut. Oh, are they there? Connecticut band? Interesting.
Interesting. Yeah. There's not a lot of bands from Connecticut. Right.
Interesting. Jack Tragic and the Unfortunates. Well, I was going to say the Flaming Lips were hands down still one of my favorite bands I've ever seen live and I've only seen them once and it was for the soft bulletin at first. Music against brain germs.
It was just so incredible. Yeah. It was so incredible. Yeah.
It was so incredible. Yeah. The first leg because they actually did several legs of that tour because it was really awesome. It was really awesome.
That was a really special concert. Yeah. And it was when they had the drummer was like projected on behind that. Yes.
The screen was like, it was kind of like for me, the first time I really had an immersive experience where it was like very artistic for lack of a better way. You know what I mean? They handed out little radio headsets and then they had a FM radio transmitter in the back room that would transmit the live sound from the board so you could watch them and listen to them on this little radio station that they had set up. That's cool.
It was super cool. And each member of the band had the part of the whole extravaganza that they were responsible for. Michael the bass player ran the little radio station. Oh, really?
Wow. He got the FM signal out and Stephen Dros was the drummer. He was the drummer on that material but he plays a multi-system. Is he like a keyboard?
Go ahead. He was a keyboard and guitar. But that was his he really kept the band together. He was the band leader and then way coin master of ceremonies.
Oh, amazing. Talkin' all day long. And he also, to me, it's like when you see him you say like that's a rock star who walks by. But he's got this whole other sort of community culty sort of interesting thing.
In a good way. In a good way. I'd be in his cult. Yeah, well, join.
Maybe I'm in his cult. Okay, wait to find out. Let's go join his cult. Oh my God.
Well, since it's the 69th episode, how are we going to celebrate? I'm going. I thought I had to wait till tomorrow for that. Okay.
Okay.