Episode #7: Interview with Larry Shattuck

Date: 5/15/2020 Show Description: “Colonel Shattuck is Senior Lecturer and Director of the Human Systems Integration Program at the Naval Postgraduate School in Monterey, California. Dr. Shattuck holds a faculty appointment in the Operations Research Department where he teaches human systems integration and human factors engineering. Colonel Shattuck graduated from the United States Military Academy in 1976, and following distinguished service as a signal officer and receiving his PhD from the Ohio State University in Cognitive Engineering, he returned to his alma mater to teach Engineering Psychology until his retirement from the Army in 2005. He has been at NPS since, he co-directs the Human Systems Integration Program. Larry has been an active researcher in the domain of military command and control for nearly two decades. He is unique among his peers in the NDM community for his ability to draw on deep operational experience when studying processes such as how commanders communicate their intent, the manner in which decision makers fuse data in tactical environments, and the ways in which data and information flow through technological system elements to the human agents in that system.” Where to find Larry: Naval Postgraduate School HSI DL Certificate Program HSI DL Master’s Degree Program Learn more about NDM: NaturalisticDecisionMaking.org Journal of Cognitive Engineering and Decision Making Where to find hosts Brian Moon and Laura Militello: Brian’s website Brian’s LinkedIn Brian’s Twitter Laura’s website Laura’s LinkedIn Laura’s Twitter Timestamps: How Larry's military operational experience has informed his research findings [2:20] Making the shift to engineering psychology [7:47] Takeaways from the Army research laboratory's advanced decision architecture program [10:12] Examples of the program's contributions to the Army [13:58] Making progress with NDM solutions within a government context [19:10] Explaining the relationship between NDM and Human Systems Integration [29:07] Making the NDM research process more efficient [34:40] How NDM perspectives have influenced Larry's approach to teaching [38:26] The aspect of Larry's work that has been most rewarding [40:10] Lessons learned from students [43:45] Larry's top three mentors [45:46] Influences outside of NDM [49:25] One question that can determine if someone is an NDM practitioner [51:07] Two truths and a lie [52:08]