Episode 7: Zayna Khayat - Challenging dogma

The adaptable health force, prosthetic human augmentation and the Ship of Theseus Welcome to the ⁠⁠⁠North of Patient⁠⁠⁠ podcast - conversations on health[beyond]care - where we paint an inspired landscape of healthcare's future through dialogues with creative and unconventional thinkers from around the world. For a summary of the episode, visit the ⁠blog post⁠ on North of Patient. and subscribe to ⁠North of Patient on Substack⁠. https://puneetseth.substack.com/ This week’s guest is the incredible Zayna Khayat, a health futurist with Deloitte Canada and a renowned go-to person for #healthcareinnovation. Among her many roles, she also teaches at the Rotman School of Management at the University of Toronto and advises several health startups. I've been lucky to know Zayna for over a decade. She was a key advisor during my first startup, InputHealth, helping me navigate the startup building ecosystem, connecting me to key resources and just being an honest mentor. Anyone who knows Zayna knows that she has a bold voice and she says it as it is. So it shouldn't be a surprise that this episode is really about challenging dogmatic thinking in healthcare. We dive into some pretty big and provocative questions that many of us think about but few dare to say out loud - like for example, is the traditional doctor-patient relationship sustainable for the future? In the wake of AI, will we really need discrete roles of different healthcare providers in the way we define them today - such as docs, nurses, and pharmacists and so on - or do we need to start thinking about a more fluid and.adaptable health workforce? And lastly, can current healthcare systems really be salvaged, or do we need to build pieces from scratch? It’s not about right or wrong with these questions, but instead giving ourselves a moment of pause and asking ourselves with honestly. So hang tight for an animated episode - The links to the full episode can be found in the comments below. North of Patient is on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, YouTube and Substack. Make sure to subscribe on Substack and follow along. As always, I feel comments and ideas, as well as suggestions for future guests. 0:00 Episode 7 - Zayna Khayat - North of Patient 04:17 The road to becoming a health futurist 09:01 Unpacking the word "futurist" 14:57 Sources of inspiration 16:43 Moral injury and it's impact on the healthcare workforce 21:08 Who will build the future of healthcare? 25:28 Human prosthetic augmentation 28:06 Ship of Theseus 34:12 Can medical schools evolve fast enough? 36:20 Advice to medical school program directors 38:48 The adaptable health workforce 45:07 Building a health system from scratch in Saudi Arabia 50:13 What role will humans have in an AI driven future of healthcare 51:47 Health vs. Healthcare vs. Medicine 01:05:41 How to hang out in the future