Episode 73: A Minister’s Take on the 12 Steps, with John Ortberg

from Addiction and the Family · host Casey Arrillaga and Kira Arrillaga

We interview acclaimed minister and author John Ortberg in a wonderful conversation about the 12 Steps, the nature of faith, and how spirituality plays such a vital part in so many people's recovery. Special Guest: John Ortberg.

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