Episode 74: A Real Conversation on Black/Asian Unity with Lee Mun Wah and Dr. Joel Davis Brown

In this conversation on race, Lee Mun Wah, a Chinese-American man, and Dr. Joel Davis Brown, an African-American man, talk about racism against Black and Asian people. Key topics: Stereotypes, and their root causes between African-Americans and  Asians. Lee Mun Wah recounts issues amongst men from different races and ethnicities when he produced the groundbreaking film on race, "Color of Fear". Mun Wah shares the stereotypes he heard about Black people when he grew up. Joel shares stereotypes he heard about Asians growing up from the people around him. The problems with Asians being considered "model minority" by white people. Joel and Mun Wah talk agree that communities of color are missing the opportunity to talk to each other.  How white supremacists create, perpetuate and benefit from conflict and misunderstandings between Asian and Black people. Why it's important for Black and Asian people to not just focus on white people, but spend time becoming better allies against racism. Early movements of third-world unity including Black people, Asians from different ethnicities, Native Americans, and LatinX people, as well as working in a coalition with progressive white people. Racist, stereotypical messages immigrants get about other groups before they come to the US and how those messages cause stress, conflict, and racism. The dangers of Black people being stereotyped as "model activists". What African-Americans and Asians can do to create unity, learn from each other, and show support to end racism.   Lee Mun Wah is an internationally renowned Chinese American documentary filmmaker, author, poet, Asian folk teller, educator, community therapist, and master diversity trainer. He is the Executive Director of StirFry Seminars & Consulting, a diversity training company that provides educational tools and workshops on cross-cultural communication and awareness, mindful facilitation, and conflict mediation techniques. His first documentary film, Stolen Ground, about the experience of Asian Americans, won honorable mention at the San Francisco International Film Festival. His most famous film about racism, The Color of Fear, won the Gold Medal for Best Social Studies Documentary and in 1995, Oprah Winfrey did a one-hour special on Lee Mun Wah's life and work that was seen by many.  His latest film, If These Halls Could Talk, was just released.  The film's focus is on college students and their experience with racism and other diversity issues in higher education.  Thousands of people from government and social service agencies, corporations and educational institutions have taken Lee Mun Wah's workshops and partnered with Stirfry Seminars & Consulting on their diversity initiatives.   Dr. Joel A. Davis Brown is the Chief Visionary Officer of Pneumos LLC, a management consulting and coaching company based in San Francisco, USA, specializing in cultural intelligence, leadership, change management, and strategic storytelling. As a change agent, Joel works strategically with organizational leaders to cultivate innovative, creative, and adaptive environments where the cultural genius of everyone can be harnessed and leveraged successfully. In particular, Joel works with organizational clients to foster psychological safety, healing, belonging, and transformation. His work spans five continents and his mission is to facilitate liberation for every global citizen. Best known for his critical analysis, creativity, humor, and an ability to build consensus, Joel has partnered with Fortune 500 Companies, non-profit organizations, and government agencies to help them achieve sustained growth and organizational breakthroughs. His clients have ranged from LinkedIn to the United Nations, and his "sweet spots" have included men's leadership, LGBT inclusion, interpersonal dialogue, and intercultural communication. Contact information: Facebook: www.facebook.com/Pneumos Twitter: @joelabrown7 Website: www.pneumos.com LinkedIn: www.linkedn.com/in/joelanthonybrown