Episode 75: You’re Closer Than You Think – Mental Wealth, Drift and Support

Host: Mary Asante Guest: Mike Pagan   In this powerful Mental Health Awareness Week episode of HR Voices, Mary Asante welcomes back leadership speaker and Mental Wealth advocate Mike Pagan for a deeper conversation about isolation, drift, accountability and support.   Building on their hugely popular previous discussion on Mental Wealth (Episode 57), this episode explores what happens when capable people quietly become overwhelmed, disconnected or stuck — especially HR professionals, leaders and independent consultants who spend so much time supporting others.   Together, Mary and Mike discuss the emotional load many professionals carry, the hidden impact of hybrid and remote working, and why awareness alone is not enough without action and support.   In this episode, we discuss:   What “drift” looks like in practice Why capable people can still become stuck Isolation in leadership and remote working The emotional pressure carried by HR professionals Why asking for help is a strength, not a weakness The difference between awareness and action Accountability, routines and support structures The importance of human connection and checking in   Mike’s top tips:   Prioritise self-care and check in with yourself regularly Spend more time with people who energise and support you Pick up the phone and check in on someone who may need it   🎧 A thoughtful and honest conversation about wellbeing, leadership, connection and the importance of not carrying everything alone.   📩 Questions or topics for future episodes? Email: [email protected]