EPISODE 79: TOLU

On the heels of Andre's punchy episode, Tolu changes the tempo this week. If André was pop punk, Tolu is smooth jazz. His voice is gentle and comforting, and his spirit matches. Tolu doesn't have a childhood trauma story to tell, but he does have a problem he needs help with, and it just happens to involve one of Renée's favorite topics: meddling moms. Despite a childhood he calls "fun" and the easy awareness that his mom loves him, Tolu, now 29, finds himself dreading contact with her. What's going on? Enmeshment is the name of the game, and Renée gets in there and sorts the boundary problems and solutions, while Tolu tries to get Renée and Ashley to talk about themselves - and succeeds a few times. Ultimately, Renée and Tolu not only conduct a master class on boundaries, they also discuss how to navigate unbalanced romantic and platonic relationships and the relationship between codependency and social anxiety. Renée gives Tolu concrete strategies for managing all of it, Tolu gives us all reasons to root for him.Support the show