Episode 8: Let's Talk About Change! with Pamela Fleming

from Stress Mess: A Stress Less Podcast · host Samantha Elizabeth

Send us Fan MailChange is hard. And fast. And usually happening at the worst time.In this episode of Stress Mess, I talk to my friend Pam — a dynamic, tell-it-like-it-is change leader — about how she got started in the world of change, why transitions come with emotional whiplash, and what managers are seriously missing when it comes to guiding people through disruption.We also talk about what it means to feel “not that exciting,” why serendipity brought us together, and the messy feelings that show up after the shock wears off.If you’ve ever felt overwhelmed by change or wished your manager had a clue… this episode gets it.Samantha Elizabeth Coaching & Consulting LLCsamanthaelizabeth.com

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Send us Fan Mail Change is hard. And fast. And usually happening at the worst time. In this episode of Stress Mess, I talk to my friend Pam — a dynamic, tell-it-like-it-is change leader — about how she got started in the world of change, why transitions come with emotional whiplash, and what managers are seriously missing when it comes to guiding people through disruption. We also talk about what it means to feel “not that exciting,” why serendipity brought us together, and the messy feelings...

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