Episode 8 "The Side of Success No One talks about" Featuring Carlos Gutierrez

Survival mode will make you grind… but it won’t always make you grow.On this episode of Unplugged with Pam, I’m joined by my great friend Carlos Gutierrez (Financially Fluent)community leader, father, husband, and financial strategist—for a raw conversation about mindset, mental health, and the real decisions behind entrepreneurship.We talk immigration, leaving corporate, divorce, therapy, and why the most powerful people aren’t the ones who never struggle… they’re the ones who keep going anyway.Follow Carlos: @FinFluentFam