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EPISODE · Feb 21, 2025 · 38 MIN

Episode 84: Annelil Desille

from Focus and Chill - productivity tactics for AuDHDers and other neurodivergent folks · host Jeremy Nagel

Welcome to episode #84! We’re thrilled to be joined by Annelil Desille today.Annelil Desille is an ADHD-registered clinical psychologist who blends lived experience with evidence-based practice to support neurodivergent individuals. Her special interests include neurodivergence, the mind-body connection, sexual health, intimacy, attachment, and spirituality.Through her work, she helps neurodivergent individuals and couples navigate the unique challenges of relationships, task paralysis, self-acceptance, and personal growth. She also runs couples retreats focused on rebuilding intimacy and improving communication for neurodivergent partners.In this episode, we discuss ADHD, PDA (Pathological Demand Avoidance), neurodivergent relationships, and practical strategies for overcoming daily challenges.Welcome to the show, Annelil!QuestionsJN: When did you first realize you were neurodivergent?Identified with ADHD in 2018 during a binge-eating trial studyDiagnosed formally with autism in 2021 after a colleague recognized traits in herStruggled with self-doubt but eventually embraced her neurodivergenceJN: What were some of the biggest challenges you faced in school?Struggled with stats (had to take six years of it in her psych degree)Severe task initiation issues, leading to all-nighters and procrastinationExcelled in subjects she loved but found others nearly impossible to engage withJN: How did your diagnosis change your life?Medication was life-changing—marks jumped from 60s to 90sAllowed her to develop self-compassion for struggles she previously blamed herself forCreated affirmation decks to help herself and others embrace neurodivergenceJN: What challenges do you still experience now?Task paralysis due to PDA—struggles to start even things she enjoysUses the INCU acronym (Interest, Novelty, Competition, Urgency) to overcome task avoidanceFinds creativity and gamification essential for motivationJC: What are you currently working on?Couples Retreats – Helping neurodivergent couples rebuild intimacy and improve communicationTask Initiation App – Developing an app that provides customizable voice prompts to match energy levelsJC: What strategies work best for productivity?Water bottles & snack stations to avoid breaking hyperfocusBody doubling and external accountability to stay on trackGamification – Making boring tasks fun by turning them into challengesJC: What productivity strategies don’t work for you?Time blocking & Pomodoro method – Feels too rigid and disrupts deep focusStrict consistency – Prefers a continuity approach (changing up habits every two weeks to maintain novelty)JN: What does your morning routine look like?Low-spoon, medium-spoon, and high-spoon versions based on energy levelsJournaling, gratitude, and affirmations as key daily habitsPrefers buffer time before work (arrives an hour early for flexibility)JN: How do you manage sleep with ADHD?Struggles with sleep regulation and frequent vivid dreamsAntihistamines unexpectedly helped with sleep due to histamine-related sleep disturbancesWorks with her body’s natural rhythms rather than forcing early wake-upsJN: Where can people connect with you?Therapy Practice: https://www.neurokinnection.com.au/Retreats & Resources: https://www.nk-intimacy-alchemy.com.au/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/neurokinnection/JC: Final words for the audience?"Figure out what you need before seeking external solutions.""You know yourself best—trust your instincts and adapt strategies to fit your brain."More from Focus Bear:Website: https://focusbear.ioLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/focus-bear/Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@focusbearappTwitter: https://twitter.com/focusbear1Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/focus_bear/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/focusbearapp/Podcast: https://podcast.focusbear.ioTiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@focusbearConnect with Jeremy:LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/nageljeremyEmail: [email protected] with Joey:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joeycorea/Newsletter: https://thepluckyjester.com/newsletter/

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