What's up everybody, it's Chris Cody and I am hosting this episode of The Mystery Create, all by myself. I believe this is the first project that I've done completely by myself. I've done stuff with my dad, Greg Cody, I've done stuff with Ward Bellamy, I've worked with Billy on projects, I've done stuff with the whole crew. I don't think I have yet to do a completely solo mission on a little project and I'm really excited to bring it to you.
And if you're thinking of yourself right now, why are they letting Chris do something all by his lonesome? And the answer to that is I interviewed Tom Brady last month and you know, around these parts that carries some weight and rumor has it a call came up from the very top and somebody said, Hey Mike Ryan, I really love Chris's performance in that Tom Brady interview. Thank you guys should let him spread his wings a little more. Maybe take the boat out by himself for a little while.
And so here it is, I'm here alone and I, they said to me, Chris, you're gonna get the ball of the isolation here. What kind of stuff do you want to work out here? And I said, I know exactly what I want to do. I want to talk to the person with the coolest job at ESPN and guess who they came back with?
That's right. Chris Felica, the bear from College Game Day. ESPN's top gambling analyst as far as I'm concerned. He's got a podcast with Sam for Steve.
He is always on the daily wager. Not only is everything about his job really cool, he's in the horse betting and you know if you want, listen to our show that I have been in the horse betting lately. So I'm super excited to talk to him about that. We're gonna talk about college game day.
But first, how are we going to make this episode stand out? And you know, the answer I came up with folks, I'm going to talk to not only Chris Felica the bear. I'm going to talk to an actual bear. That's right.
Ladies and gentlemen, let's bring him on. Baloo the bear. Now, I know you're thinking yourself, is this is the blue from Jungle Book. It is not.
It is just a random other bear named blue. Hey, blue, how's it going? Oh, thank you. Thank you.
No, no, I'm pretty good at this. I was thinking it's really smooth. Listen, I'm so happy you could be here. Do you know Chris the bear Felica?
Do you bear? You do? He is the best. We're talking to him a little bit.
Yeah, you know, I don't think you should take part in the interview. I think I'm just going to handle it. No, I think I just think that it would freak him out. You know, he's used to be in the biggest bear in the room.
You know, I think if you're there, it just, you know, you might get a little weird, but it's great. It was great talking to you. You know, don't eat me. Guys, I just spoke with a bear.
This is crazy. What other mystery great did that? I don't think I even did. All right.
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Enough of me, Emory. Let's get to Chris Felica, the bear. I promised my two-year-old I would let her growl once on this episode since I told her we always tell her I'm talking to the bear. She's like, Oh, I left a growl.
So here's my two-year-old growling. Wow. Wow. I love her so much.
All right. Let's get to it. Chris Felica, the bear from college game day. I'm very excited today to talk to Chris Felica.
The bear, as you might know, you see him on college game day, daily wager. He's got the podcast with Sanford Steve, Sanford Steve and the bear podcast. It's if you're into gambling, it's a must listen. How you doing?
Chris, thanks for joining us today. I'm happy to join you guys. It feels good to at least have a connection here with South Florida. But no, we're doing good with a little board since the draft, but we got some Bundesliga coming back here.
We got some golf this weekend. So things are looking better. Hopefully we get some NHL NBA backs in as well. Yeah.
And as you mentioned there, he has a he went to the University of Miami. Where were you born? Were you born down here in Miami? No, I was born wherever University of Miami student was born.
Not in Miami. I mean, what better than that? But I was born down on Island and I always knew that I wanted to be involved in a big athletic program and be involved in sports and probably what I'm working in sports. I had visited Syracuse University and then I did a little more research realizing that they had about 40 days of sun throughout the year.
I'm exaggerating. And then I went down to Miami a little bit after that and loved it, got a couple of scholarship money, got a little early admission, had a job lined up in the SID before we got down there. So I was pretty sick and everything just fell on for me. And I am today because of where I get to get to go to Miami and the opportunities I got there.
So yeah, I want to talk to him about that. I'm sure he, you know, Dan Levitt's art went to the University of Miami. So I'm sure there's stories there. I want to talk to him about sports betting and horse betting.
I have become a horse betting degenerate. Attaboy. During this pandemic. Now I feel like I'm okay financially because I haven't been going out till restaurants and bars a lot.
So the money I've been saving there, I've been just hemorrhaging into sports betting. Gas money as well. You're not spending that. It's all it's all I give and take.
You're saving some place and you're you spending another. So before we do a deep dive on the ponies, I got a few questions about working for college game day. When first take was in town in Miami for the Super Bowl, we would show up to our Cleveland studio and there was a whole spread every morning for first take. It's something that we don't get for our show obviously because it's just a little show.
But I'm curious. I feel like college day. You mean Dennis and God over in his cafe and bring all the stuff out for you? Exactly.
That's an excuse. That's an excuse. Let's got to change. But so I'm just curious like because college game day and first take are two of the Cadillac's shows of ESPN.
So I'm I have to imagine every Saturday there's a hell of a spread for you guys. And what does that spread look like? What we like to do is find a like a classic local place and we'll do this order eggs egg whites. You're typical like breakfast buffet staple bacon sausage, apple pancakes fruit yogurt.
You're just just some some stuff like that. Oh, juice. You're living that college game day life. You're just like, oh, just this spread eggs, bacon, and I like that.
That's how glorious. But you know, a lot of times like when you get to like November 30th and you're in Minneapolis, Minnesota and it's snowing and it's about nine degrees outside and you get you get pull up to the office and you walk in and you see the the star nose going and you see steam rising and you see the foil on top of the tin pans. It's like, yes, I'm about to go in there and just absolutely kill some egg whites right now. There's a better job at ESPN than your job on game.
No, no, that's what I was just like, I mean, it seems so cool. Like, now you're a producer. I like your what's your title on college game day? A research producer, even though I don't even know what I am anymore.
I'm I'm just a there. I'm just a sports fan. I love my job, whether it's ranking numbers, whether it's spitting out ridiculous betting advice, whether it's talking to you whether it's writing a column, whatever it is, I do it, I put a small amount of base on that. Now, do you have a most memorable behind the scenes story of like a celebrity game day picker?
Like they're running late. The producers are nervous that they're going to say something like just like when I say to you, most memorable guest picker on college game day, what do you go to Katie Perry was the most memorable one because just the skit and all of the props and that she had for her for her skit was great. Her I don't know if it was for manager or someone on her business. But it wasn't Ole Miss Brad.
So they kind of coached her up on all the Ole Miss stuff. So she was great. I think Bill Murray nearly hitting me in the head with the golf ball after putting the flaming spear and throwing course out of the ground. That was a good one.
I don't know. I think maybe Brian Wilson was someone we might have been a little worried about. Like, what's he going to say here? Has there ever been worried about someone running late or not going to show up?
So it's like, what are we going to do with this person? We have a backup? There was one instance that I remember that we were in Stillwater. Ricky Fowler was going to be the guest picker and there was an ice storm in the area and like planes were delayed, couldn't land for a while.
And ultimately, I think we might have had Marcus Smart or somebody as a backup just in case. And Ricky did get in and Ricky did do the segment. But Marcus actually did come on the show that day and had a segment of the song. So he did get his shot up, he did get a shot up.
But I think that was probably the, at least I can remember off the top of my head of a guest picker really getting down to crunch time and worrying about it. They got to make it up. The only time I feel like we've interacted on Twitter, and it was very exciting for me years back when you followed by the way. Thank you for that.
But we interacted on Twitter recently about pineapple on pizza. We're on my side. Me and another producer on our show. We're having a big debate about it.
You are anti-pineapple on pizza. Thank you for standing up for me with that and just explaining your take on that. I like pineapple with my breakfast or in a a fruity drink or something like that. Pineapple does not belong with my pepperoni sausage onions and peppers.
And then no, no warm pineapple. Thank you. That's what I said. That's what I said.
I don't drink orange juice with my pizza. Just like I'm not looking for that fruit during the pizza. Now also, what is your hottest food take along those lines? What else drives you bonkers?
What else drives me bonkers with food? Oh, I fake eggs. Fake eggs out of the carton? No, I'm okay with like the egg whites out of the carton.
But like the fake eggs, I understand some people might need to do the egg beaters for health reasons. But if I see like fake egg omelet or even worse is any place that microwaves their eggs for a breakfast sandwich. What are you doing? That's just ridiculous.
That's so true. I agree with you. True or false famous people sometimes reach out to you for betting advice besides to do that. Are you willing to share with us the level of fame that this has reached?
I'm assuming you don't want to name it. It's funny. I have had some people that reach out for some advice. And that's all you'll say on it.
The names are interesting. I mean, a couple of definitely an athlete or two, very successful businessman. I feel like I'm just tickled now. There's no way I'm going to get out.
It's fun. You'll just have to follow along during college football season every now and then he'll tweet at me and ask. Usually, he's a DM or a text guy, but every now and then he'll kind of get a little loose in the name. But it is funny.
I can remember when we did the biggest ball this year, with myself and Kirk and a couple of other of our people on the crew and friends. And we were out at dinner and Kirk had made a relationship out there with a gentleman. I think he was with MGM Mirage. And this gentleman says to Kirk, when you guys are done with your dinner, come on by.
Blank wants to meet you. Hang out. They're going to be great. And he goes to Kirk and makes sure you bring the bear.
He wants to talk to the bear as well. And I'm like, all right, I'm good with that. So that was a fun night going in and hanging out with him and his friends as well. It was one of those like pinch me tight moments.
I'm like, wait, I'm like, this guy actually cares what the hell I have to think about a game. I'm like, that's pretty damn cool. It's like what I said after I had gotten to a guster before the final four. I'm like, I could go back and like tell like 16 year old me.
That, yeah, you know what, in 30 years, you're going to be sitting courtside for final four working with with thick by towel and Sean McDonough. And then after the game, you're going to get on a plane and go down to Augusta and cover the masters and be a Gus National. Like you wouldn't believe it because it's like everything that you it hoped for and wanted to do. So there definitely have been a whole lot of those like scratch my head, raise your eyebrow.
Wait a minute, type of moments. You can admit this. This is something you can say. Nobody annoys you for winners more than two guys.
He would be on the famous person. So I totally made him what he did this ball season might have been the most amazing gambling accomplishment. Oh, ever. Did you miss it?
I'm trying to think. Yeah, 14 or 16. It was it was the Michigan State game that I think he finally got off the earth. I know I know I had Michigan State and I think I was worried because I think he had Michigan State as well.
And I was like, you know what, at this point, he's so due to win that he finally is going to win. What a crazy streak. Who smells better? Restay, this is a Kirk Herb Street.
Kirk Herb Street. Oh, wow. And the only reason I said is because Kirk will usually come over before the show and we'll do a little Instagram thing. So I can get like his cologne aroma will naturally just kind of work its way in my facility where the Reese is more more business.
He wants to get to the set, stay locked in, talk to the crowd, give a little bit of talk and be prepared for the show. And I don't get to like see if Reese is wearing like awkward to Joe or whatever happens to be that day. Now it's probably way out of my price range. But if you could ever find out what Kirk Herb Street wears, I would love that information.
Maybe that'll just be a project. Thank you. I'll find out. Maybe, you know what, I'll do a stealth like a lot of times what will happen is if we go to from game day to a primetime game, what we'll wind up doing is we'll go to a hotel like a fly in, we'll go to the hotel, we'll change sit down for a little while, watch some games.
So what I want to do, I'll sneak into the, sneak into the bathroom and see what he's gotten his that that she had that for you. So you always go with him and the PJ to like your is producer kind of right. So you're like you're in the booth with them. You're in the booth with Fowler.
I mean, I'm actually in the game truck. I sit in the game truck and then in the Amont Headset with with both Chris and Kirk and then I'll grab his people on the producer and truck. You have any famous blunders of you because I have this mistake. I'm a producer.
I'm in Stu Gatson Danzier throughout the show. I have over the course of my career said something in their year. They go to air with it and then I quickly realized, oh shit, that was not right. Do you have to do you have to do?
I don't remember. I don't remember necessarily saying something that was wrong, but I do remember like I'm like watching another game that's going on to try and keep them the breads as to like we're doing whatever it is and I'll be on CBS. I'm like watching that for a second. The graphics person is asking me a question.
I'm putting a note on our Slack chat and I'll be like, get back to our game and make an observation and I'll be like, wow, they seem to really be struggling on on on person tanning and Kirk or Chris would be like, yeah, I just said that like two minutes ago. Oh, that's the worst. I'll be like, I'm totally like, I forgot. I'm even aware that they said.
Yes, I can relate to that. I've done that before where you see them align that they've already said and they give you a look like, what are you listening? And just like, I'm sorry, there's a lot back here. So with horse betting, okay.
Now, do you judge me if I'm up until like the wee hours of the night on the weekend, it's betting Australian ponies with my friend on Zoom? No, why would I encourage that? That's what I'm saying. It's so much fun.
Like we are, we're on Zoom, we're sharing screens, we're putting bets on horses that we have no clue about. We don't know any of the jockeys. We don't know any of the tracks. Actually, now after a couple months of doing it, I'm starting to learn some of the jockeys tracks there, but at the beginning, just pulling numbers out of my fur.
Now someone who's a sports horse betting expert, as I would consider you, do you like pick your jockeys, pick your tracks and you only bet these or on like a Saturday when you want to get after it, you're just betting on any race that's available. Well, I want to offer you a, that's like a two or three hundred level course of Australian. I want to offer you like a 400 level course of AP courts, and I want you to get early in the morning now. I want you to bet the Swedish Trotters, I want you to bet Japan Racing.
I want you to go to the next level as opposed to just Australia. Now, I'm not going to lie. There have been times where I've woken up in the morning and I'm just like, what did I end up last night? Let me check what number I'm at.
Okay, I'm here. Oh, it goes off in two minutes. I could get a little bet in here early morning, but I have avoided doing that so far. Now, how did you get into horse betting specifically?
Growing up on Long Island, it's a natural deal. Like my dad's godfather actually used to write for the one of the daily racing form publications. So my dad was into it. We had a quarter horse track out in Suffolk County, Sucking Meadows, that was very, very close to where I grew up.
My aunt and uncle lived literally 10 minutes from Belmont Park. So it was a situation where we were going to visit an enjoy some Uncle Bob and maybe we, my dad and I would drop my mom off and come on down and we'd go to Belmont for a couple of races. But it's always been a part of my livelihood. And then obviously, going down to Miami, I mean, we were in the heyday of when we had Hylia, Gulfstream and Calder.
I mean, Hylia, you take the metro rail to the tri-rail, you take the tri-rail to Hylia back in the day, but it's always been something I've loved doing. And it's funny because I do a regular spot with Phil Alexander on a piece and he's asked me from time to time, he said, okay, you can only bet on one sport the rest of your life. What do you bet on? And everybody automatically assumes it's going to be college.
It's horse racing. I was horse racing. I was a horse racing. I was a horse for all fans.
So it's been kind of fun just to have a bunch of people like you and others that reach out on Twitter looking for horse racing advice. How do I bet this race? Who do you like today? And maybe there will be a little bit of a bump of some new fans because the people have the opportunity to watch and watch your way to go and turn stuff.
I will give you this as someone who's new to the horse betting. There is no better feeling than the horse you need coming around that turn on the final stretch. When you see your horse pulling up and you're like, oh my god, we're getting it. Let's go.
Open him up. Open him up. And then he actually does what you say. And he's like, I can't think of another sport that gives you that feeling.
Like obviously hitting bets is fun in other sports. But the feeling of your horse coming on just when you need him to at the end of the race, I have not felt that type of enjoyment in other sports. I think at least the way I had to handicap the races and my reaction to that and my emotional attachment, it's almost like, hey, you're happy you won your bet. But I'm happy because I saw the puzzle.
I do like the daily racing forum. It was all of the information and the inter-decision. It's like trying to solve a puzzle. What's the flow with the race?
Who's going to be the favorite that you want to be? Who's the price horse you want to be on? Who's the price horse? The trendy horse that you want to avoid.
And it's just like a feeling of accomplishment that A, you want your bet, B, you figure it out and C, you wind up getting the better of the public as well. So you're right. And on the flip side, there are those times where you'll see your horse coming and you think you got it like I did yesterday in the turf where the big kerfers are standing in need of where my horse basically didn't get to the hole in time. I pull up and then it was probably the best horse but had a self-retard.
But that probably happens a lot more than the other instance where you're winning. But still you can get to be frustrated, get to drop some four little words and be angry. And then you're like, all right, 15 minutes ago, let's go on to the next race and move on. The next race is always going on.
Quick side note, you just made me think of this yesterday. I was watching Gulfstream and it was in just the most torrential downswing. Like why are we running in this? Like I get it, I try to avoid lighting.
You couldn't even see the screen on TVG. I saw the screen and I'm like, I am not even going to bother handicapping and betting this card today. And then I wind up just kind of going through the car like I wonder, and I see there a couple of $30 worth of like there was some real price horses yesterday. So now that's when I kick myself in the butt and I'm like, damn, maybe I should look at Gulfstream today.
Maybe there was a disc of people that handicapped off the morning line. I think it races might have been so long the turf because you need to remember right now because nobody's there and you're getting so many people betting on this for the first time that they don't necessarily know what a what a main track only horse is or maybe that horse that might have been entered for the turf still has some dirt breeding and can handle the off tracks up. I'll because even myself with time, I make mistakes and don't kind of follow through the process and go through with it and maybe I cost myself some money yesterday. But I do that.
Now I want to talk just general strategy here and I want to kind of aim towards the casual better because not everybody is going to be doing a deep dive. And if you're talking to someone who's kind of like me just wants to get into it once they have fun with it, once they'll win a little bit of money if they can. Now what's like two things you would say are the most important one in terms of prepping for a race. For the casual sports better.
What would you say are some good things to strategize with? I'm a big believer in like recent form. So I like the last couple of races, the previous three races, is the horse's form getting better? Is the horse's form getting worse?
Is the horse maybe stepping up in class which could be viewed as a sign of confidence that they think this horse can handle the move or is the horse dropping which might mean that the horse is really tailing off or a lot of times in claiming races trainers will like to basically play a show game or dice game and be like, okay, I dare you to claim this horse because it looks like the horse might be tailing off but really what they're just trying to do is steal a purse knowing that the horse can win the race. And then that goes on at all and the clean up and up sport of horse racing like this and then no one ever has any false illusion of horse pretense and running horses and such. But I mean those are a couple of quick things. I like to be able to find maybe not all the time the horse that's going to win but in my handy capping I like to eliminate horses.
Okay, who can't win? And then you throw out the filler and the junker and whatever and then you really narrow it down to whether it's the favorites of your price horses or your live horses and work from there because I think that's a lot of times how you come up with some long shots winners. Maybe you throw out the horses that can't win and that allows you maybe to play a horse that may not necessarily look like you have a chance on paper but then when you take a closer look, it actually does. Now as far as the types of bets that we should be making, now the fear that I have and only tell me if I'm wrong about this, the way I always looked at it as people that make money sports gambling, they don't do parlays, they're betting a couple bets a week and they're betting a lot of money on a couple winners that they like.
When I think about horse betting, is it similar in that where the people that are really making money at this, what is their general strategy? I've become more of a what you call what's called a vertical player, maybe down so basically multi-races, pick fours, pick fives, to your point, I know guys that all they will do is look for bad favorites and they'll even pick like three or four horses in a race that are five to one or longer and just flop that them to win. That way if you get a five to one shot and you bet four horses, you're coming out ahead but you're right, the guys that really make a ton of money and do this really professionally, this is what they do, they will hammer horses to win, big win bets, big bets in the daily double, key a horse in an exacta first and second, that way if the horse runs well and just happens to get beat, you get it on the back end so you're right, even sports betting, people like to bet a little to win a lot and obviously your eyes go down a whole lot when more things have to happen in order for you to win whereas really smart betters, at least sports betters that I know and horse betting, but I'm heading high percent I know, they're willing to output 500 to win on the four to five shot here if I think yes fall that lose. What do you think about the strategy of because there's morning lines?
Every day the races come out and there's morning lines and then the lines obviously change so I tend to like is this a bad strategy I look at the horses that their money line, their morning line, their morning line was really good like it was three to one five to two but now for some reason the race is about to go off and they're 10 to one 11 to one so I'm saying to myself at one point this horse had a good chance to win at least someone thought so so I tend to go for those and what you go for is what I like to go for the overlays in the race um those are horses that get kind of forgotten about the betting those are the horses that you want to be on you don't want to be on the 10 to one shot that suddenly is five to two right that sometimes they win sometimes it's a bad morning line and the money is right but more often than not you don't want to be on the 12 to one morning line horse who's like the oh you know in this race I kind of like a price horse in this race the six horses 12 to one in the morning line and then they're like seven to one or six to one those are the horses that like the public betters are on they bet it's obvious on the form and those horses typically don't win so you want you want to be on a three to one shot that suddenly is six to one uh that's uh you're making me feel a little better about my strategy I you're you're you're you're you're you're you sound like you've educated yourself and you're doing a pretty damn good job without your playing it. Do you have like a worst beat in terms of horse betting story like one story that comes to mind of just like the most frustrating? Oh I do. It was uh gosh it was actually uh last weekend.
I had I've had a couple of those lately but it was uh May 2003 or May 2004 there was uh like a five-day carryover in the in the pick six at Hollywood Park and there was probably around 1.2 1.3 million dollars in the pool at the start of the day and after the betting it was probably like four million dollars in the pool and let me jump in real fast for the people that don't know much about sports betting it probably should have said it's on the front end. Pick six is when you have to pick the winner in six straight races so basically he was saying that a bunch of days in a row no one was able to do it so there was a carryover in his prize and it was getting bigger and bigger. And you have to put your ticket in obviously before the first of the six races so you got to put the winners in all six races in at one time so I put in a it was a uh a ninety-six dollar ticket which is not a big big six ticket by any means at all. I wound up singling a horse in the first leg wings.
I think a horse was like nine to two or five to one something like that. I'm like oh okay yeah next race another nine to two five to one winner all right third leg another winner like seven to one eight to one or something winner fourth race finally there's a favorite in the race who winds up winning and I have that so I'm four for four next by the fifth leg I have the longest shot on the board wings so I'm five for five and one of my good friends is Larry Callness who um knew some people out of Hollywood Park and I had two horses in the last leg and Larry's been following along with me and he's like who do you have I'm like oh I have the two and I have the four he's okay well let me find out what the will pays are. But that's better than looking at a will pays and so he comes I think he calls me back and he's like well if the two wings you take down the whole pool which is about three point one million dollars because if the four wings you went about one point four I'm like all right oh my god now I'm now I'm like now I'm sitting in the back of the OTV in Bristol and like everybody in there knows what's going on. Please don't tell me that the two got out good.
No no no I'm not I'm gonna tell you that the two hesitated at the start and basically got left at the gate the horse's name was Aaron Ashman gets left at the gate and hesitates like trail in the field and I'm like I'm dropping some choice words but the four is a good position the four is kind of kind of stalking we're running a good race and as they start getting down the back the later you're on the back stretch around the four times two starts gaining some momentum and starts moving I'm like this is interesting and as that is happening the four is basically coming up really battling for the lead and I'm like oh my god this four might actually take the lead when this race and the two can continue his coming and makes this huge middle move before kind of flattening out in the in this stretch and the four winds up kind of getting buried in on the inside and winds up getting beat and I think I wanted to get like 5100 bucks or whatever for like five out of six on the ticket instead of multi-million dollars it would have changed my life and the ultimate ticker the very next race Aaron Ashford broke clean and won for fun at like 17 to 1 so I had the right horse that day just didn't break god man my life should be uh should be changed right now I should be hanging out with you and stood out to Levittard every day in south Florida living the other star studied life I was crushed as sullen somber as I could like speech literally literally started crying I'm sorry for laughing but that is just an insane story man I have had will pays where if this horse wins this one I get 2300 if this one I get 700 and I'm like shh-dising from that so I'm just like trying to put myself in like that scenario where that's is there a way to hedge there like did you think about putting like 200k I'm like I don't know well the hard problem with the head having that when you're always having access to that type of money quickly I think what I want to do and I think I did put some money whatever I had on a couple of horses that took to win but it was it was no consolation that's for sure oh man this is I can talk to you for hours man this is so much fun thank you so much Chris we're gonna bring you back because I have more questions of course spending time Chris Feliga the bear college game day you know what we need to do we need to do show up like Miami Highlighter something they still going yeah yeah yeah Danny Highlighter Miami Highlighter that's another thing but when I first turned 18 I was like I was always Ben Quinella's at Daniel Highlighter 147 every time 1-1-1-2-5-1-4-6 it's at the box there you go please don't tell me Michelle Lane and stop playing I honestly have a 70 you might be like 70 right now I honestly don't I haven't been in years that I don't remember the names I did know the names at one point but I don't anymore Chris Feliga thank you so much for joining us it was great talking to you thank you so much for listening to this today guys this was so much fun Chris Ryan solo talking to the bear talking to an actual bear I had so much fun make sure I check out all the other podcasts on the web chart friends network Southeast Sessions to Pottity the Meanycom show featuring Lenny Sarah Spain that's what she said with Sarah Spain and Marty Smith America you can't miss you can throw them all on a dartboard whatever one you land on whatever one your dart hits what kind of announce you make it here the dartboard is web charting friends you throw the dart wherever the dart lands on the board if you listen to that podcast you're gonna have a good experience great analogy Chris wait a minute let's get the hell out of here enjoy your day everyone or your night whenever you're listening see ya