Epworth Rectory Haunting

In the dead of night as people sleep, that is when the spirits creep. As the bell tolls three dark things take power, we like to call it the supernatural hour. Hey, welcome to the Supernatural Hour. This is your host Raven.

This is Chad. And this is Moon. And we almost didn't do this recording tonight because we had major technical difficulties. Raven's computers are, yes, I could too.

Between two computers and a phone, we just could not get good sound for me tonight, so this is as good as it's gonna get folks. Yeah, it's kinda crazy. Yeah, technology. I thought mine would be the one.

I mean, it moved my camera and microphone from an old computer that's gonna have to be eliminated into a new computer and it actually went out really, really smoothly. It seems like what Raven ended up with. She's using the one that she's been using for years and it's having its moments. So we'll just deal with it and get it figured out.

She'll talk through the computer instead of through the external cool microphone we've got on the computer. No, I know. Well, the thing that's like the most is I can't hear you through my ears. I have to hear you through my computer.

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Yes, it does. So we're just going to jump right into our main topic. This one's kind of fun. It's actually called the Epworth Rectory Haunting.

But some people might know it as the Wesley pulled a guy's. That's one of the most documented coolest and early older guys' cases in England. It happened just six weeks between December 1716 and January 1717. So what is a rectory?

It's a church. I've heard the word before, but I never really wondered about any special stuff with a rectangle. So I don't know if I'm an expert on other religions. So if you're a Methodist, you can correct me if I'm wrong.

My graphite wasn't that this way. It should have been better. So it's called the Old Directory. It's an Epworth Lincolnshire.

It was rebuilt in 1709. It had originally been built in 1697, I think, but then it was wood and it burnt down in a fire and it was rebuilt in brick. So it's where the parish priest or minister would live. And the thing that's interesting about the Epworth Rectory is it was the home from 1697 to 1735 of the Reverend Samuel Wesley and his wife, Susanna.

They had 19 children. We had a lot. They had 19 children. And one of their children is John Wesley.

He actually grew up to become a founder of the Methodist Church. Methodistsism, that's hard to say. And the interesting thing is the Queen Anne's Isle Building, which is beautiful, but it's currently owned by the Methodist Church of Great Britain. So it's kind of one of their, I don't know, I don't want to say the birth place of the Methodist Church, but it's at least an important area for the founding of the Methodist Church.

Kind of cool. So in 1954, the Church of England has owned it and they sold the right-range of the British Methodist Church. And if they restored it, it was restored by a man named Thomas Mason. They made it look the way it would have looked as the Wesley's would have known it would have been there.

So they didn't just fix it up. They restored it back to the original. It's currently managed by a board of trustees that was appointed by the British Methodist Conference at the World Methodist Council. The Chair of Trustees in 2015 is a fellow by the name of Reverend Graham Carter.

He was a past president of the Methodist Conference. And the interesting thing is it's the grandpa on the dad's side. And so as I look at that name, Graham Carter, I'm almost wondering if I'm related. I might have to do some day-game to see if I'm related to him.

Very possible. That's a little... Who knows, this might be my family takes my knock, but I think that's a... That's where your love for a paranormal came in, right?

I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. But there's nothing paranormal going on right now because nothing...

Microphones won't work, my mouth won't work. So the what... Yep, worth the record. It was built in the late 1600s and it was more than just a family home.

It was the center of a ridges life in the parish. Reverend Samuel Wesley was a church of England clergyman during the time of religious tension and political change in England. The Wesley family who later became central figures in the rise of Methodism were living in a period when belief in the supernatural was both deeply ingrained and hotly debated. The historical backdrop adds depth to the hauntings as the family's religious convictions, spiritual surroundings, and personal hardships like all likelihood shaped how they experienced and recorded a strange event that happened correctly.

Yeah, and you know, the interesting thing is it doesn't matter what... I mean, all three of us. You know, Chad, Moon, and I could be in the same building experiencing the same things. And we're all gonna remember it just a little differently.

You know, and there was a lot of stuff going on at any end of that time. You know, like Chad said, a lot of religious tension, a lot of political change, a lot of stuff going on. The family was quite religious. And the interesting thing is nowadays Christianity, almost.

Kind of pooh-poo-poo is the supernatural. I don't want to say all Christianity, but they didn't embrace it the way it was embraced back in the day. And this would have been a time period where they really would have embraced it. Yeah, that's interesting.

So I want to talk about some of the things that happened at the rectory. So the Wesley family reported a bunch of different kinds of activity, including loud knocking and banging, which was the most common occurrence and would often happen in response to questions or prayers. Isn't that crazy? Like they're praying and there's just a ruckus, you know?

They did not want them doing that. They'd hear groans and moans, footsteps and dragging sounds in empty rooms, sounds of objects breaking. This one made me laugh. Animalistic sounds like gobbling of a turkey or the chirping of birds, which I don't know if it's paranormal, but I mean, I guess they would know if they had turkey's on their grounds, right?

But chirping of birds, I don't know. I would like be skeptical of that to claim, but doors latching and unlatching on their own, heavy furniture moving, including levitating of John's older sister Nancy's bed, spooky, and bed curtains getting pulled back. The kids also reported pinching and they would see an old man in a white nightgown. That's creepy.

So unlike many hauntings of the time, this was witnessed by multiple, credible family members and servants. So this is why it's so well documented. People wrote it down. People, it was happening to many people, so it makes a lot of sense.

Why it's still being talked about today. Yeah, the what really makes it stand out is how well documented the written counts like Moon just talked about from various family members, particularly Susanna Wesley and her son Samuel Wesley Jr. These first hand reports preserved in family letters and later referenced by John Wesley himself who believed the phenomenon to be genuine. His level of documentation gives a heart, a critical weight, credibility.

And he's a very credible person. So that it's one of those things where the documentation and the family and the written accounts really adds to the credibility of these events. One of the things that I kind of found interesting, kind of going back to Moon and some of the activity that they were experiencing. One, John Wesley the father had actually lived there when he was a child as well.

He said that there were stories of things that had gone on in the house on occasion here and there. So it wasn't really new for him. But John's mother Susanna was so concerned that the poltergeist was going to disturb her and her evening prayers. They named this one of the daughters named the spirit Old Jeffrey.

And she was so concerned that Old Jeffrey was going to interrupt her prayers that she pulled him. You can't interrupt my prayers between 5 and 6 p.m. And she never was. She said that she never had issues.

But I think it's interesting because when we go and do residential, sometimes people, sometimes our clients are like, we don't mind if we go stays here. We just, you know, we don't like that. We need to set some boundaries. Exactly.

And so I read that and I thought that's amazing because she said her boundaries. And the other thing that sounds amazing probably wasn't a type 3, it probably wasn't a demonic entity or at least one of them wasn't a demonic entity because it kind of obeyed the boundaries that she said. That's good news. The super haunted poltergeist house.

So John Wesley, he was not there during the haunting, but he remained deeply interested in the events for the rest of his life. She often referenced a story in his writings and letters considering it's strong evidence for a supernatural. His belief in the haunting likely influenced his spiritual worldview and some aspects of Methodist doctrine regarding supernatural and the power of unseen forces. That's really interesting like that.

It influenced his religion basically, right? And if he's like the father of Methodism, then yeah, he paved his own thing and brought in some supernatural aspects to his religion, that's kind of cool. No, absolutely. And then here's the thing.

You know, as serious investigators, you know, as serious as we can be, you know, we don't want to just jump to the conclusion that everything is a ghost. You know, not every shadow is paranormal. Not every knock is paranormal. Not every cold draft is going to be a ghost.

But at the same time, there are things that happen that we can't explain. About, you know, is that 100% a ghost? No. But you know, if you can't explain it, then you can say, well, yeah, you know, that could be a ghost.

You know, that's why it's called paranormal. It's just it's beyond normal. It's not explainable. You know, so over the years, you know, skeptics have come forward, you know, because back then, obviously they're not going to have, you know, videos in their house.

They didn't take recordings. They couldn't have people go over and test it with their equipment. And you know, some of the things, you know, aren't the standard. Oh, it could be a prank.

You know, Wesley Children's pranking. Particularly Henny Wesley. Apparently she was quite the prankster. I'm like to tease her siblings, but there's, I think it's, there's going to be teasing going on, right?

Some things could be misinterpretations of natural sounds. You know, the building is old. It's an old directory. So they're going to hear sounds.

I mean, modern houses make sounds. I can't even imagine the sounds that the house built in 17th of this might make, you know, if it's still standing today. Maybe they were built earlier than half of these days. I'm sure there's going to be creaks.

You know, there could be a mass hysteria. There could be embellishment, you know, something that's right. That's small and it gets bigger and bigger and bigger every time you retell the story. There could be like we started, well, like we said earlier, you know, the three of us could be in a room and the same thing can happen and we're all going to remember it a little bit differently, you know, depending on on how we interpret what happens, you know, what stood out to us more was that the visual was that the audio.

That being said, there really hasn't been a definitive explanation that's fully debunked. This ought to need it. So this is really kind of an enduring dispute in paranormal history because we can't really say yes, it absolutely, you know, without a doubt was a ghost. Me on the how I felt after guys.

But you can't really say that it wasn't either. So I find this interesting. You know, two of the there's a couple of things that stand out to me. The fact that Susanna said, hey, you know, leave me alone between five and six and I did.

Could that be the ghost just, you know, hearing for the boundaries that are set or was it her kids that heard her and thought, okay, we can't let them all between five and six. We're going to get her about to kick. You know, it could go either way. But the question I have, I want to see what you guys think about this.

Why did that only do this for six weeks? Well, if you go back to one of my muntels during the winter months, like we talk about in general, we're inside more. It's colder outside. We're not doing much.

And so that could be a factor that they're hearing or think that they're hearing more things that may just be normal things because they're all inside more. Nineteen. Nineteen people. I want to know how big how many square feet is this rectory I want to know.

You know, there's actually a picture of it. If I can get my mouse to work. I mean, it doesn't say how many square feet, but it looks, it looks pretty decent size. It's two stories.

I mean, so I'm looking at it. I'm looking at it from the side. There's like four windows on top, four windows on bottom. And on the front, it looks like, or if a six, seven, seven or eight windows on top, four windows on bottom.

I mean, it's big. It's going to house. Nineteen people, probably quite comfortably. And I'm sure it was used for other social kinds of things for the church and the congregation also, but generally as the residents, probably as office and some things like that too.

And then there's an attic. It's got some dormer with the bottom top. That's probably where the maids lived and stuff. Yeah, it's interesting.

And was it, where was it? Short period of time? Is it what we call a pass through that just passed through? I thought it was with my kids for a few weeks and then that board left.

Yeah. But, and obviously I wasn't there, but just one of the things that really kind of says to me, maybe not a demonic entity because nothing sounded evil. It sounded more pranky. Yeah.

Definitely. And I can see noises, you know, pranking. How would you levitate someone's bed as prank? That could be kids.

I don't know. Someone's laying under the bed, pushing their hands and feet up. I don't know. Yeah.

It's been a while since I've had little kids in the house. Still live in that life. Right. But, you know, basically what I want to do is I pretty much just want to go to England and investigate everything because everything there is super chaotic.

I don't get it. It's been around since the beginning of time, basically. True. So true.

I don't know. I mean, there's such a history with buildings and architecture and murder. There's so much that happened there in the same areas regularly, you know. Right.

A lot of wars, a lot of strife. I mean, you know, the Romans were in that area too, and that's going back a long time ago. A long, long time ago, yeah. So cool.

Alrighty. Well, if you haven't eaten the details, you should. Chad and I actually tried to the other day, but we decided we didn't have enough time, even though we really, really tried. And they're opening up a new location, which is closer to my house.

I asked how that was going, and they're almost done. So the location will be fantastic. Rum wins that they might even open a third, but we're going to get this second one open first. But if you want some good gourmet Mexican food, when you hear Mexican food, don't expect what you think you're going to get with Mexican food.

It's completely different. So go check them out. And have you been to the mistake properly? I have not been there since Whiskey's birthday party, but I do need to go down there.

Well, and it's always a way for you. It is a little bit of a drive, but she's super nice. And I'm thinking about selling my stickers there. So I might not go talk to her about that.

I know that Whiskey dropped by, I think, last week, last Saturday, and he refilled our lights and our light stands. So we have our more product there. So you're moving some product with the Mystic Frog, huh? Yeah.

That's cool. Yeah. It's been really exciting. Everyone's in a well-and-get-of-venmo.

And it'll be Whiskey Moon. I'm like, yes, success. Well, if I can get my dolls painted because I'm going to start making some creepy dolls and I've actually got a lot of really fun stuff in the works. I'm going to see if I can put some of it down there as well.

Oh, nice. Oh, yeah, she's awesome. I just love walking in the building because there's just so much to look at. And it smells really good.

Everyone's so friendly there. They are. They really are. I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm super unprepared today.

Dawn, I'm sorry I cut into your segment. I read that and then I like thought I was expanding on my segment and it was totally, I just took over yours. Which one? Like where it talks about it being well-documented and stuff.

Oh, no, you're good. As you're going like, oh no, I heard all of his, well, I didn't read it, but I talked about all of it. No, that's cool. Not a problem.

All right. Well, that wasn't intentional. I was, I was offended. Can you tell?

You should be. That's why I apologize. I didn't even think about it. I just realized that I was like, like Moon said.

Yeah. Yeah. I was like, I was reading from a column. Nothing wrong with repeating stuff for info.

Yeah. In the mad voice, it helps. All right. I will be more prepared for the next podcast.

It's been a crazy week. Okay. So for our drug drawer, we're going to put a little paranormal, a little Stephen King, a little Jim Carrey all together. Are you ready for this?

This sounds interesting. I was going to say, Moon kind of getting a look like, what? I'm down. I'm down for this.

So, Moon, you are with our group when we went to the Stanley Hotel. You and I went to the Stanley Hotel. Yes. It's my dream.

I wish. We'll go there. We will go there. It will be one of our road trips.

If I have money, I'll be there. Sweet. Do you remember what a room number was by chance? I have no.

Me neither. I think we were on the second floor though, where the creepy room is. Yes. So in the Stanley Hotel, the creepy room is 217.

And I don't think that was our hotel room because I would remember that. Because I think we walked by it and did, you know, dowsing rods and EVP things by, you know, by that room. So I know it wasn't that room or it would have been in our room. Yes.

And it was late at night. And you don't know who's in there's in there. You kind of, kind of creepy stocked. Creepy stocked hunted outside the room.

So room 217 is supposedly the most haunted room in the Stanley Hotel. Jim Carrey actually tried to spend the night in that hotel room. And he reportedly only lasted three hours before he left without any explanation. And he never really publicly shared exactly what happened to him.

But it just kind of adds to the list of chilling legends that kind of hover around the room, which is 17. So the Stanley Hotel, which is an essence part Colorado, which is beautiful. I actually was there more for bagpipes than I was for go hunting because they have a really cool bagpipe competition there every September. So you should go.

It always has been a paranormal activity at the Stanley Hotel. But room 217 is the most famous. It's known for unexplained noises, flickering lights, a heavy, oppressive atmosphere that a lot of people feel. And many just don't stay in the room.

They'll be there for a few hours and then they leave because they don't like it. So this kind of dates back to 1974, which I thought was interesting because that's not that long ago. I don't think that's long enough. I guess that's long enough.

Some people I think it's a million years ago. But author Stephen King and his wife, Tabitha, checked into 2017. And they are the only guests in the hotel at the time. And when they were there that night, Stephen had a vivid nightmare about his son being chased to the hallways.

And when he woke up, boom, it's like he had pretty much the outline to the movie The Shining. Fun fact, when you stay at the hotel, there is a channel that is just the shining, just the shining. 24 hours a day, seven days a week. Just plays on loop.

Makes sense. If you want to watch The Shining, turn it on. You'll see it. When he thinks of yourself, oh, I missed the beginning.

Just like a little catch up to you. So he woke up with the outline of The Shining. He says fully formed in his mind after the dream. And that novel, if you don't know, it's kind of a good one of the most terrifying pieces of fiction in modern history.

And so the Stanley Hotel, because of that book, just has a reputation as a real life haunted landmark. And visitors go there a lot, not only just to experience the Stanley Hotel, where a lot of it was filmed and kind of where it came from. I don't think it was actually filmed at the Stanley Hotel. It was filmed at a different hotel, but that's where it was actually written.

You know, Stephen King came up with it. It's a different building or hotel where they actually did the filming. So there's a, I don't know if it's still there, but back in the 80s, when I was there for backpacking, there was a maze. Apparently they did film part of the movie in that maze.

I did all that. So I wanted to go through the maze and I never had that. The maze at the end. I think so.

Yeah, so people go to the Stanley and not only to say, Hey, I was at the Stanley, you know, that's, you know, the birthplace of the shining. You know, we also got some ghostly thrills. We take as an activity when we were there. They take you on a, on a ghost hunt.

When we went, I don't remember why they weren't, they wouldn't let you do a ghost hunt on your own, but they would take you around and you'd go to them. Anyway, today they say that room 217 is considered a paranormal hotspot. And everybody goes to visit, thrills, they curse, get dicks, horror fans, paranormal experts. And people say that they get strange shadows.

They hear disembodied voices, personal items from a strangely move. Some believe the room was haunted by the spirit of a former housekeeper who was injured in an explosion there in 1911. A lot of people say that the energy left behind is just years and years of people visiting, you know, bringing in the energy and kind of creating the atmosphere there. Just, you know, from the movie and the energy that people bring.

Yeah, anyway. So the actual exteriors in the movie, the exteriors shots are of Timberline Lodge in Word. They weren't actually at the Stanley Hotel in Estes Park. And then all of the interior shots were done at L Street Studios in Hertfordshire, England.

So the film, it wasn't actually done at the Stanley, but that's where the book was conceived and written about. And then they did things differently with the filming. Nice. So the jumper was brought to you by the Jewish performing arts and cultural events center or case, go check them out.

We drove past it just a day and they said they had to carry out. Wednesday nights, they do an open mic night and carry over Wednesday night. I wish it was closer to me. I would be there.

Friends center. I wish I could go to the day and just go. Moon's a karaoke girl. Yeah.

Yeah. She does the karaoke. What's your favorite karaoke song? There's so many.

I started out singing with one of my friends and so we sing alone by heart and we like took some pieces and so we sing that one a lot. Um, yeah. I like lots of songs, but yeah, it's fun. I'm all about fun.

So, yeah. Maybe we'll have you karaoke at one of our events. Hey. I mean, it might cost some people, but I'll do it.

It better move than me. I do not carry on me because it is. I'm not the singer. She can play the bagpipes in the background for me.

Oh, I can do that. So amazing grace or something, you know. I can do that. This song that you're probably sick of.

That's okay. I'm sick of it for a very, very long time. People see me and they're like, hey, would you play in my head like amazing grace or something? There it is.

Okay. So do we have any investigations going on or what do we need to know about them? I was so excited to hear Moon's Muntals. I completely just blew past investigations.

We haven't had any residential investigations since we recorded last and honestly, just hasn't been that long since we recorded last. And then we have the clubhouse that we want to talk about and we'll do that next time. I'm going to do it next time because I would like Mel to be here. She had to work tonight.

Boo work. Boo work. Boo work. And I have a lot more people to be able to be here to chat about their experiences there.

We are recording also before we're having a personal just our own little group hunt castle is going to come. There's some photos for us. We all have some official photos. Velna will be here.

She's going to come visit us from Florida. Yay, my friend. So we want to talk about that as well. But we'll do that on our next podcast as well because we haven't done it yet.

So even if we want to talk about it, maybe we can't because we don't know it. So we have nothing to talk about. And that's how my brain works for 24 seven. So we have other things to talk about.

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She's good and she's so sweet. I know. I love her. Even though she didn't do hit note therapy, she's so sweet.

She doesn't even get good at it. She's just, you know, everyone's like loving grandma that cares and will listen to you. And she's just the best listener and gives the best advice and just not judge either. So yeah, it's true.

I grew up with her. This is both worlds. I learned to be a good girl because I was raised by her. But you know what time it is.

What time is it? It's time for a moon child with moon. So did you guys get to see the strawberry moon last Wednesday? No, I wanted to, but I was so tired.

I was born. Okay. So I did not read up into this very much, but my son Skylar was really excited about it. And so he's like, mom, you know, when the sun sets, when it like becomes dusk, then the moon's going to rise.

And I was like, sweet. Like, let's go to the park. We can try to find a spot in the valley where we can see the mountains fully because if there's big trees in your way, you're not going to be able to see the mountains. So we're trying to find like a spot that was kind of clear so we could see and we waited and we waited and we waited.

And I was like, guys, I was talking to my family. I'm like, I know that is directly east, but like, I saw the moon coming home when I was coming home from dance the night before. And it was further south. And they're like, no, it's going to be right here.

This is east. So Mike East pertains to just that side of the world, not like a certain latitude longitude type of thing. So anyways, I was like, why, we got to go to like a bridge or something where we can see more of Utah County because I live in Salt Lake County. So it's harder to see the mountains in Utah County.

So we went on this bridge that nearby my house and just like as we parked, we started seeing it come up. And it was like the pinkish red and it was really cool looking. This was like, it said it was going to rise at 10 oh one. It did not.

It was like 10 20 at least. So yeah, it did come up later than it said, but I thought. Well, that was probably based 10 oh one on a horizon where you don't have a flat one. Well, it said West Jordan, like on my phone.

So Google light to me again. I can't trust those guys. I know. So I got some really cool pictures and it was really hard because it was actually pretty windy that day.

So as it's coming up, I had to stabilize my phone really good, but I did get some really beautiful pictures of the pinkish red moon. And that was very exciting. So yeah, that is my moon tell with moon. Thank you.

A little. Hey, thanks for the claps. Chad discovered this. So it's going to be sunny.

I love it. It makes me happy. So I have a little addition to your strawberry moon. That's okay.

Tell me, tell me. So I think it was the night before our bathroom window faces east and Chad came in through the bedroom and he goes, they're full. I mean, he asked our Alexa. You know, there's a full man.

I suggest that full man will be tomorrow. But I think isn't this not very good. I'm like the biggest or at least this one was the biggest. Full moon that we've had decades or something like that.

Have you heard that? I have not. I am not educated on that aspect. I heard that somewhere.

I'm like, that's interesting. And then fun fact is in Utah, I don't know if they do this everywhere, but in Utah, every city has their days, which is just the city celebration. There's a family. Which is a lame name.

I'm glad that family's not fun. But I grew up where there was golden any days and there's steel days and there's not very days. Anyway, a town that's supposed to me, it was not very days about the same time as the strawberry moon. I thought that was really cool.

Oh, cute. Okay. I'm just gonna throw this out there. Okay.

My city has family fun days, which is a lame name for your festival. But there's a town that has a lamer name because they have town days, which is even more lame. Okay. What town is that?

Riverton. Riverton. Yeah. You got some people to talk to us.

You got to rename your days because they're lame names. Golden any days. How cool is that? Golden any days.

I grew up in West Valley and it's Westfest. Yes. Okay. That's cool.

That's cool. Yeah. Exactly. I'm also close to Highland.

So they have the Highland fling. See? And then they have that. That's kind of cool.

They need people like me to be creative and come up with good ideas for them. Yeah. Right. I mean everybody.

I'll do it. I have so digressed. Anywho, we are just kind of looking forward to our summer season. We have a lot of stuff planned.

If you haven't signed up as a patron, it's not too late to get in on our patreon Shindig. And not only will you get to come to the Shindig, you'll get your fancy little box of stuff. And next time we should have Drake Mill and Belma back. Drake thinks he's got to know maybe he's got to take care of Mel things that she's got to work and Belma is just busy.

So we'll hopefully have them back next week. But you got to us. So, you know, we're worth it. Okay.

Keep it creepy, my friends. Have a good one. Talk to you guys soon. You've been listening to the Supernatural Hour at Advanced Paranormal.com.

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