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EPISODE · Feb 20, 2026 · 7 MIN

ESA vs. Public Schools? Dr. Stephen Neal Jr. Says It's Time to Unite

from Birdman at the Arizona Legislature

In this special "West Lawn Compendium" episode of Birdman at the Arizona Legislature, Birdman spends four hours—10 a.m. to 2 p.m.—interviewing advocates, parents, candidates, and citizens during Early Childhood Legislation Day at the Arizona Capitol.   Unlike official legislative agendas set by the House or Senate, advocacy days are organized by individuals and groups who come to lobby, educate, and share lived experiences with lawmakers. This particular day centered largely on early childhood development, childcare access, and family policy—but as always at the Capitol, the conversations extended beyond a single issue. In this segment of Birdman at the Arizona Legislature, another statewide candidate steps up to the tent — this time for Arizona State Superintendent of Public Instruction.   Dr. Stephen Neal Jr., running under the Arizona Independent Party, outlines his vision for education in Arizona, emphasizing a "students over politics" approach. Having previously aligned with both major parties, Neal says his focus is not ideology — but outcomes.   The conversation covers:   Raising math, reading, and writing scores statewide Reducing political division in education policy ESA (Empowerment Scholarship Account) programs vs. public schools Teacher workload, respect, and classroom autonomy Transparency and accountability in school funding The difference between policy-making and policy implementation     Neal argues that the debate shouldn't be ESA versus public schools — but how both systems can better serve students. He calls for collaboration, improved resource allocation, and restoring focus to academic fundamentals.   It's a conversation about education reform, school choice, accountability, and what it really means to put students first in Arizona. 🎧 Listen & Subscribe: Available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and all major podcast platforms.   🌐 Official Site: https://birdman.media       Support Our Sponsors     This episode is brought to you with the support of our premium sponsor:   Sitgreaves Community Development Corporation   Supporting our sponsors helps keep Birdman Media™ independent and producing the content others won't.     © Birdman Media™. All rights reserved.  

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