(Ethically) cheat your way to $250M+ | Mikal Lewis, Product Exec. (Whole Foods, Nordstrom)

Today, we’re talking with Mikal Lewis, a Digital Product Executive at Whole Foods who drove hundreds of millions of dollars in revenue over the course of his career. In this episode, Mikal talks about: Why you should absolutely (ethically) cheat to get outsized results for your product His framework that drove a quarter of a billion dollars in additional revenue for Nordstrom’s online store How to use four types of luck to optimize for opportunity And, how to build a quiet portfolio so that you can choose your own career moves Links LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mikalfm/ How Google Works by Eric Schmidt and Jonathan Rosenberg: https://www.amazon.com/How-Google-Works-Eric-Schmidt/dp/1455582328 The Law of Shitty Clickthroughs by Andrew Chen: https://andrewchen.com/the-law-of-shitty-clickthroughs/ Pretentiousness: Why it Matters by Dan Fox: https://www.amazon.com/Pretentiousness-Why-Matters-Dan-Fox/dp/156689428X Chapters 00:00 Intro 01:02 Learning Product from Windows to Whole Foods 03:53 The Four Types of Luck by Eric Schmidt 07:30 Applying Type Four Luck to Product 16:53 Breaking into Product Management at Microsoft 22:58 Transforming Nordstrom's Digital Product Experience 34:23 Professional vs. Non-Professional Product Management 37:06 Outro Follow LaunchPod on YouTube We have a new YouTube page! Watch full episodes of our interviews with PM leaders and subscribe! What does LogRocket do? LogRocket combines frontend monitoring, product analytics, and session replay to help software teams deliver the ideal product experience. Try LogRocket for free today.Special Guest: Mikal Lewis.