EPISODE · May 8, 2026 · 1H 35M
Everybody wants to rule the AI world
from The Vergecast · host The Verge
The Musk v. OpenAI trial continues, which means so do the allegations and leaks surrounding some of the most influential people in tech. Nilay and David recount the most interesting and entertaining moments from the courtroom this week, before digging into what we've learned about when Sam Altman was fired. After that, the hosts discuss OpenAI's apparent plans to build a phone, which seem utterly necessary and utterly doomed, along with the new Fitbit Air and a truly strange new home robot. Finally, in the lightning round, it's time for the Hype Desk, Brendan Carr is a Dummy, the Chinese company that wants to make everything, and the next big rebrand for xAI. Further reading: Internal Tech Emails on X: "Sam Altman texts Mira Murat We are going through the removal of Sam Altman from OpenAI in detail. Toner is relating how Sam Altman’s firing happened. Toner says she found out about ChatGPT by seeing screenshots on Twitter. Zilis sent Altman a text message of support after his 2023 ouster. Google’s taking a big swing at AI health with the Fitbit Air OpenAI is reportedly launching a phone for ChatGPT The creator of Roomba is back with a furry robot companion Inside Dreame’s wild launch event — packed with products no one can buy Dreame — the vacuum company — just ‘launched’ its own phones | The Verge Dreame’s rocket-powered car can do 0–60 in 0.9 seconds because you can just say things now A foldable iPhone dummy — on video. Apple agrees to pay iPhone owners $250 million for not delivering AI Siri DOJ assault on the NFL could end the Packers as we know them. Apple could let you pick a favorite AI model in iOS 27 xAI is becoming SpaceXAI. Microsoft gives up on Xbox Copilot AI Microsoft’s new Xbox shake-up is all about platform changes Subscribe to The Verge for unlimited access to theverge.com, subscriber-exclusive newsletters, and our ad-free podcast feed.We love hearing from you! Email your questions and thoughts to [email protected] or call us at 866-VERGE11. (Timestamps are approximate.) 00:00:00 Intro 00:02:00 Trial Discovery Era 00:06:00 Early OpenAI Origins 00:11:00 Elon Power Struggle 00:17:00 Altman Firing Texts 00:27:00 Why The Board Panicked 00:36:00 ChatGPT Phone Rumor 00:39:00 OpenAI Phone vs App Store 00:41:00 Why Apps Still Matter 00:44:00 Apple Siri Power Play 00:49:00 Apple Intelligence Lawsuit 00:53:00 Google Fitbit Air 00:57:00 Google Health Rebrand Backlash 01:01:00 Familiar Robot Pet Debate 01:10:00 Nintendo Star Fox Returns 01:12:00 Nintendo Weirdness Wins 01:15:00 Furry Overlap Discourse 01:16:00 Zach Gardening Surprise 01:21:00 Brendan Carr Broadband Fight 01:23:00 NFL Antitrust And Packers 01:29:00 Dreame Vaporware Parade 01:32:00 Rocket Car Reality Check 01:34:00 Elon Corporate Matryoshka 01:36:00 Xbox Ditches Copilot 01:37:00 Wrap Up And Schedule Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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