"Everyone wants this to end"
from Deadline: White House Hosted by MALCOLM TURNBULL, SUE GORDON, SUSAN RICE
August 18, 2025, 5pm: In a precarious moment for America’s global standing, Trump hosts a pivotal multilateral White House meeting with President Volodymyr Zelenskyy – this time joined by a group of European leaders – to discuss Ukraine’s peace efforts. Nicolle Wallace is joined by former Principal Deputy Director of National Intelligence Sue Gordon, former U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Susan Rice, and former Prime Minister of Australia Malcolm Turnbull. For more, follow us on Instagram @deadlinewh To listen to this show and other MSNBC podcasts without ads, sign up for MSNBC Premium on Apple Podcasts. For more from Nicolle, follow and download her podcast, “The Best People with Nicolle Wallace,” wherever you get your podcasts. To listen to this show and other MS podcasts without ads, sign up for MS NOW Premium on Apple Podcasts.
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Nicolle Wallace covers today’s high stakes White House meeting between Trump, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy, and other European leaders.
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