Evolution in Software: What Has Changed Since GOOS? • Nat Pryce & Duncan McGregor

This interview was recorded for GOTO Unscripted.https://gotopia.techRead the full transcription of this interview hereNat Pryce - Co-Author of "Growing Object­-Oriented Software Guided by Tests" & "Java to Kotlin"Duncan McGregor - Co-Author of "Java to Kotlin" & Independent ConsultantRESOURCESNathttps://mastodon.social/@natprycehttps://github.com/nprycehttps://x.com/natprycehttps://www.linkedin.com/in/natprycehttp://www.natpryce.comDuncanhttps://twitter.com/duncanmcghttps://www.linkedin.com/in/duncan-mcgregor-a3038b6https://github.com/dmcghttp://www.oneeyedmen.comhttps://java-to-kotlin.devLinkshttps://www.meetup.com/extreme-tuesday-club-xtchttps://guava.dev/releases/21.0/api/docs/com/google/common/base/Function.htmlDESCRIPTIONThis conversation between Duncan McGregor and Nat Pryce explores the legacy of Nat's co-authored book "Growing Object-Oriented Software, Guided by Tests" (GOOS) and how software development practices have evolved in the past 15 years.They discuss the origins of test-driven development (TDD) within London's Extreme Tuesday Club, the shift from object-oriented to functional programming paradigms, and how changing technology has influenced development approaches.Key topics include outside-in vs bottom-up testing strategies, mock objects, the rise of microservices, and whether modern development practices have actually improved productivity.The conversation provides valuable historical context for understanding current software development trends while questioning whether some modern practices represent true progress.RECOMMENDED BOOKSDuncan McGregor & Nat Pryce • Java to KotlinSteve Freeman & Nat Pryce • Growing Object-Oriented Software (GOOS)Uberto Barbini • From Objects to FunctionsSaleem Siddiqui • Learning Test-Driven DevelopmentRoy Osherove • The Art of Unit TestingTrisha Gee & Helen Scott • Getting to Know IntelliJ IDEAVaughn Vernon & Tomasz Jaskula • Strategic Monoliths & MicroservicesBlueskyInstagramLinkedInFacebookCHANNEL MEMBERSHIP BONUSJoin this channel to get early access to videos & other perks:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCs_tLP3AiwYKwdUHpltJPuA/joinLooking for a unique learning experience?Attend the next GOTO conference near you! Get your ticket: gotopia.techSUBSCRIBE TO OUR YOUTUBE CHANNEL - new videos posted daily!