Ex-US & UK Spy Chiefs on What to Watch for in 2025

In the inaugural episode of the year, former MI6 Chief Sir Richard Dearlove convenes a panel of intelligence leaders, including co-host and former Secretary of Defense and CIA Director Leon Panetta and Andrew McCabe, former Deputy Director of the FBI. Together, they break down the current state of global affairs and discuss the challenges ahead in 2025—from ongoing wars in Ukraine and Gaza, the seismic shifts in the Middle East and what is next for Iran and Syria, and the risks to America and Western countries posed by China's cyberspying and efforts to expand its global influence. Plus, the ex-intelligence chiefs share insights on how international leaders will navigate their relationship with Donald Trump's incoming administration. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices