"Exposure" vs. Pay

Hosts Sarah Turner and Gabriel Garbow address the topic of exposure vs. pay, perhaps the most frequently asked of the frequently asked questions of creative types: will you do this for free? They discuss considerations artists should make when the topic arises and what those looking for free work from creative people should keep in mind (spoiler: exposure is one of them!). Topics include: waterskiing squirrels, social distancing from the fridge, brain breaks, Shakespeare's plague productivity, Amy Winehouse, art bartering, compensation vs. pay, time as a material, gauging your own work, stretch vs. safety journals, the number of times you can say "numbers game," discounts for your mom, hobby vs. career, red flags and reductionism, "what do you charge?", fast math, skill vs. experience, The New Yorker, barista internships, paying for nude models, respecting and valuing the work, what we turn to in times of trouble, goals, the "beer and art" crowd, our hourly rates, custom bedtime stories, the importance of an underscore, millionaires, @forexposure_txt, key points to keep in mind, what could you do with $7,000, Sarah paying Gabriel, and how it really does all come back to Gerald.