Fame Filled Me With Dread So I Said "I'm Out" - Leo Elstob

Leo Elstob, aka Leo Zero, is a true creative - a graphic designer, a radio presenter, a DJ and a remixer for the likes of Dua Lipa, Florence and the Machine, David Bowie and Lou Reed, among other things.Whether you're a creative person, or want to become more creative, or you're simply curious about how creative people work, this episode is for you.The conversation covers what creativity actually is, how to create the conditions to allow your natural creativity to emerge, and the importance of spirituality to our journey as human beings. Leo and I also talk at length about the music industry and how at one point in his career, Leo found himself at a fork in the road, where one path led to fame and celebrity, and he chose the other.This was a fascinating conversation. I hope you enjoy it as much as I did!