EPISODE · Apr 19, 2026 · 1H 11M
Fame, Shame & The Freak Show Part II: Lebo Mashile on Turning Pain Into Power
from Madame Speaker Says · host Magogodi
From Body Shaming to Reclaiming Her Voice (Part 2): Lebo Mashile on Turning Pain Into PowerIn Part 2 of this raw and unfiltered conversation, Lebo moves beyond the origin story and into something even more powerful: what it actually takes to trust your voice, follow your calling, and bring a bold vision to life.Because the truth is, having the idea is one thing. Having the courage to act on it? That’s something else entirely.Lebo breaks down: Why Black women’s bodies are still treated as public property and how to reclaim yours How Saartjie Baartman’s story still shapes the way Black women are seen, judged, and controlled today Why your body is still a battleground and what it takes to defend your boundaries What happens when you stop asking for a seat at the table and start becoming the whole house How to know when a risky creative vision is yours to pursue even when you don’t feel ready Why the ideas that won’t leave you alone are usually the ones you’re meant to follow Plus: Lebo shares the internal test she uses to separate fleeting ideas from true callings and why taking the first step matters more than having the full plan.TIMESTAMPS: 05:00 — Is this vision really yours to pursue? 06:00 — The True Love Magazine cover that sparked a national controversy 12:00 — Everything is data — and why Pamela Vete changed everything 15:00 — How Lebo went from poet to playwright overnight 17:00 — Saartjie Baartman and the hypervisibility of Black women 22:00 — Why you have permission to make the work that scares you 29:00 — Why a poet is telling you to make AI your research assistant 35:00 — Do you have the nervous system that fame requires? 43:00 — Stop plotting the steps — take the first one 47:00 — Your future self wants to know they can trust you nowCONNECT WITH LEBO: Website: lebomashile.comInstagram: @lebomashile Twitter: @lebomashileMENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE: 🎭 Lebo's play Saartjie vs Venus at the Market Theatre: markettheatre.co.za/shows/watch/saartjie-vs-venusOther theatrical works mentioned in her journey include:“Roses and Angels” — the production where Lebo first stepped into acting and writing for theatre, under the influence of Pamela Nomvete“I Am Dancing” (stage adaptation) — based on Pamela Nomvete’s autobiography, where Lebo performed and collaborated creative📧 JOIN - Expect fresh newsletters every week or so, where I share bare truths, storytelling tips and plenty of F-bombs.Ready to turn your ideas into influence? APPLY for 1:1 coaching to transform your voice into your greatest asset.
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From Body Shaming to Reclaiming Her Voice (Part 2): Lebo Mashile on Turning Pain Into Power In Part 2 of this raw and unfiltered conversation, Lebo moves beyond the origin story and into something even more powerful: what it actually takes to trust your voice, follow your calling, and bring a bold vision to life. Because the truth is, having the idea is one thing. Having the courage to act on it? That’s something else entirely. Lebo breaks down: Why Black women’s bodies are still ...
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