Welcome to the fantasy foot molars podcast with your host Andy Holloway Jason Moore and Mike Wright Oh Welcome in Thursday March 13th the fantasy footballers back with you Jason Moore The Cal Ripken Jr. Of the podcast flew in at 4 a.m. Today just to make sure you didn't miss this episode Wow I mean it's when it's part two you can't right, you know, it's continuation. You can't sometimes sure You know people don't come back for the sequel because their contract demands are too high Yeah, I wanted to talk to you guys about that I would like more on my content is Jason the Crispin Glover of the show.
I mean it makes sense little eccentric. Yeah weirdo Now Jason legitimately flew out of town because families on spring break spent 24 hours at a theme park Yeah, quite 24 hours of the park but you know today did Disneyland shut it down and then I'm here for good Yeah, yeah, it's close. I did the final one. He's going.
I'm supposed to go next week I'm sorry man. I shot it down. I did. Oh, man.
I believe the bathrooms may be but Yeah, did you you stay till close? Yeah, that is what I'm going to complain about it. You are dumb He's here. So we've got more free agency to talk about we got a good quick question a new series We'll call it what went wrong because not every player drafted with a high ADP worked out for fantasy players last year And so this one is very interesting to dig into what went wrong We'll talk about a certain player today and yeah, there's I mean there's been some players released and And there's some veterans available.
We've got some players reuniting with former homes and lots to dig into like Mason Roodle Like Mason Rudolph ah the life of a unlikeable backup quarterback Just really it works out financially just that's where the running back contracts really got to roll their eyes when you know you can have the Year of your life Rico Dental and you don't go out there and you know have maybe three million dollars guaranteed to you and then here comes Rowing team captain Mason Rudolph. Yeah, I will tell you the eight million dollars to go back to Pittsburgh The most excited person about that contract is miles Garrett is it because he gets to see him twice a year He's hoping to yeah Well, he might that right now they have no quarterback because Aaron Rogers can't make a decision Apparently you guys don't remember the oh yeah, I just did know that he really wanted to like re up that you wouldn't He's a backup quarterback. He's not gonna see him ever again. I'll find a way If you are interested in winning at your draft go check out the ultimate draft kit right now It is the pre-order pricing at ultimate draft kit calm get access to the dynasty pass being updated moment by moment With all of these off-season moves the draft hype the draft will be here before you know it And that's part of the UDK plus all of that ultimate draft get calm the quick question of the day what went wrong Dalton Kinkade Dalton Kinkade an early fifth round fantasy draft pick as the Titan 5 coming off of a Titan 11 season in 16 games played with 91 targets 73 reception 673 yards coming into last year There was tremendous excitement for Dalton Kinkade Stefan Diggs had departed and Kinkade was expected to maybe join the ranks of a top tier fantasy Titan How did it work out Titan 28 and 13 games played?
44 for 448 into What went wrong? Yeah, I mean it was it was very disappointing. He was one of my favorite Perceived values, you know of the kind of five pack of Titans that seemingly could vie for the number one spot and he didn't and when you watch the film He didn't he just wasn't good. He was not you know special in any way shape or form I know after the season there's been some talk whenever there's a down player It's always like oh they were injured But that's what it you know they've had some talk about he was dealing with some injuries But I mean he was you know he caught 80% of his passes as a rookie and last year was 59% of the passage He just wasn't good on film.
He wasn't that he wasn't producing. He wasn't breaking tackles He wasn't getting open the same he just won that good and when you watch it's like maybe he's not that guy and Josh sounds gonna spread the ball around. I don't believe it's going to I don't think he's going to emerge as a primary Certainly not the primary target in this offense. I would say a realistic expectation for a concade is probably around 75 receptions next year I think that's about where you'd expect him to be if he was healthy through the whole year Which is not that's not unless he scores ten times.
That's not going to move the needle for fantasy He was a player that when you watch the games On a team that didn't have an established number one you thought he could step into that role But they took so many deep shots with concade and none of them were he actually a big problem He actually ran I believe the most go routes if not the second most go the conchlin ran more go routes You know how many receiving yards he had on the rest I should say how many receiving yards he had on go routes I did not zero no he ran the second most go routes is that true? Yes zero receiving yards on those routes So there was the attempt to and this is where I will agree with you on the fact that you know when you make the assumption Look he wasn't that good? Yeah I mean if you never build that rapport with Josh Allen when Mac Hollins is having a game here there when Keon Coleman can have a big Play there was no big place like if you're gonna catch 75 passes. I'm cool with that George kill That's go make a big play down the field or catch seven or eight touchdowns I don't think that that is Like that range of outcomes doesn't exist working Kate moving forward because you know tight ends it takes a while But it was a really disappointing year and and fancy players are gonna feel burned and probably not take that shot again It's it's not just he ran a much higher percentage of go routes than tight end So he 18% of his routes were go routes a nine route where the NFL average for tight ends is just under 12% So big percentage increase which would normally that'll be very exciting unless for some reason people are not connecting here And then the other one he ran a lot of a much higher percentage of screens Which is I mean those are fine cheapy PPR points, but PPR for the for the for the most part those are not high value fantasy targets that we care about then you add in on top that the Bills their rush percentage in the red zone has it's just going up for three straight years almost 55% of their I got it Of their plays like they're just they're running more and we saw that with James Cook He had a pajillion touchdowns the the snap percentage going from a 60% snap player to a 43% snap player on the season like and that's in games he played that does coincide with the the narrative that he was maybe hurting more than we we know about the the general public he did Three games of the knee injury in the middle of the year any it his 80p is gonna be Very interesting so right now in of in best ball.
He's going as a Titan 14 So that leaves Kyle Pitts was considerably better than don't keep a last year as a fantasy option I want that to be stated. No, that's actually like Kyle That's all you need to say is a full stop is a full like disappointment for fantasy players And he's still a top 15 tight in with more receptions more yards more touchdowns And you know you talked about not connecting on the deep throws I mean that reminds me of Kyle Pitts. Yes athletically gifted player Like I think I think Kincaid is a pretty good tight end if a team Made him a focal point if that was in the cards I don't I think it'd be pretty productive like you could have an ingrama season if you want he's athletically gifted enough to do that in my Opinion, but I don't see that in the cards for the next handful of years years Yeah, I remember midway through the season talking about if you know if you're in dynasty trade Dalton Kincaid because I don't think He's that guy and I don't think it's going kind of yeah I made a declaration. Yeah, and so at this point.
He just doesn't have a lot of value left You're just hoping something clicks as he gets older I mean, you know that was an MVP season from Josh Allen Yes, it's like you can't ask for much more than everything he had opportunity wise and the so that the stats here on tight ends what season do they break out and so I have the numbers of players drafted since 2014 and 19% of the guys who have a top 12 season the first time they do it is year one he did that He was he was tied at 11 year one. Yeah, so he barely snuck in but it's like then the there's a weird thing of Tight ends breaking out in year one and then not coming anywhere close to their ADP in year two I will we're gonna talk about those numbers later on in the offseason but it's saying like to have a real breakout it has to happen in your year one or year two or your percentage chance goes way way down that You're gonna be a truly viable Fantasy tight and just historically speaking every players their own individual case, but if you're gonna look back on history We're not kind it's like it doesn't feel great right now flies in the face of that is just the fact that both these guys I mean, Pits and K can't get both in your one and then they dropped off like Pits is at three disappointing years in a row Like I'm staring this down J. You know this everlasting debate of rookie tight ends It's like are you hawks and bowers or are you Pits and K right is it or are you are you ingramen and joku took forever? Like those are all that was year two that's six.
Sorry. I didn't even mean hawk I'm a la porta. Yes la porta and our But like those are all names that are all first round Titans and you're probably gonna have two more this year Yeah And so you know that they can't make a big impact and you know Pits and KK did in your one But it didn't carry on into no and either la porta in your one and then carry on into your two as well Yeah, the power's probably will yeah, but Bowers is his own guy But it's like and Grom broke at your one then he was a hit for his 80p the next year But both of them you got pits la porta can cate we're all not just misses these were big misses where they they they finished two points Under what you would have more than two points under what you would have expected for their draft spot So it's been a weird thing with Titans We don't have a huge sample obviously because a break on your one is not the common more of a season two So TBD here on Well, it would be someone that is you know, the normal strategy right you take one of the stud tight ends or you draft Them in the last round would you take on KK with the last round pick next year as your as your dart throw? Oh, yes, yes, I'm gonna punt then he will be I'll take him over a Probably like a Ferguson style where I know the baseline is because I can just see what happens Maybe KK is more integrated into the offense for a few weeks But you're not taking him with a guarantee user starter and that's what people were doing last year Yeah, I think I'd rather have I'd rather take a shot on a rookie tight end in the late round over over a concade Yeah, I think that that's probably fair.
We'll jump right in reagent frenzy Mike, how would you describe the free agent period in 2025? I want it. I mean, I know the drop is a frenzy. It's it's not up I mean, it's like a gentle breeze not a friends.
No, I I mean, we all feel it the free agency period has been slow and I Guess it's just because the free agents available It's it's old wide receivers or running backs when why would I pay a running back when I could draft a one of these five or six? So which you could go even deeper like a lot of people are saying others We got ten plus running backs who are NFL caliber running backs. So why would I pay anybody right now? I think we went to Higgins was taking off the board as an available free agent this offseason It took a lot of the wind out of the sales because like you said, I don't I don't want to talk about you want to say Williams at all, right?
That's not a headline maker. I want to talk about there's no Derek Henry's Seqwon Barkley big You know awesome offensive weapons changing teams just sadness for Jason because the Rams finally made it official stupid's Cooper cup He posted his farewell yesterday on social media if you read that eight years as a Los Angeles Rams some people wanted to remind I think Jason That he's only a thousand yard receiver twice in eight years that he had the one Superb outstanding season. Obviously that kind of broke fantasy football and his Super Bowl champion, but I think the debate is is he done? Is this kind of you know, Mike and I were talking yesterday.
I think on the Footcast briefly just about the fact it's pretty rare for a team that knows a guy that has been that guy for you know Cooper cup is the number one receiver for many many years When they make that call that we're not bringing you back It's pretty rare for that guy to go and find success at that same level elsewhere. You you might get a feeling Yeah, Adam feeling was the name that immediately popped up to me is it feels very very similar They didn't want to pay him. It could be feeling it could be and that would be the best possible outcome would be a feeling type of change Yeah, but there's a lot of players too. You know whether it's Julio or Hopkins You know where the team is made or Allen Robinson Where teams have made the decision that you're done and you're done Do you mark Cooper the thing that will be incredibly difficult to reconcile is when Cooper cup first came back from his ankle injury So they were talking weeks eight through fourteen both him and Puka are on the field I mean over that span Cooper cup was averaging over 15 points per game and a half points scoring format He was the wider receiver five in that stretch And it felt like oh all right Cooper cup is back and week 15 of the playoffs happens for our fancy playoffs and he It's a full goose like well that was weird.
How's the guy? Has a player being so productive put up a zero full zero was that's also the game that Puka got like kicked out of I do not remember the that I'll check Puka stats, but then the next week like oh Cooper cup no problem Under four points under four points. I mean it went The the the valve was completely turned off of he was no longer a part of what the Rams wanted to do on offense for that stretch and It was it's so it's important. We just saw this.
Oh, please just saw it with the fundage We just saw the identical thing happen was the fundage in Buffalo Yeah, he was your guy your guy your guy your guy the valve was turned off at the end of the season They then it's like let's get out get him out of town and to be fair dig was very good for the Texans Obviously got injured and you know stopped being a Texan but to start the season You know he he came out and was very important to the offense didn't look washed to me I think he was a different player wouldn't you say when you say digs was not he wasn't the tier of he was not in his superstar form But he was he was still very useful. All right. Here's the question I have for you This will give us a lay of the land if one is washed okay and ten is The MVP season of Cooper cup, okay, so one through ten one is washed ten is premier Cooper cup What number do you think he is at going into next year? What do you think you get with a team four?
Oh, you're at four. Yeah, I think he's on the downside of the career That's pretty low at this at this age. I thought you were gonna give him about a seven or six No, I that's just that's his heart. Yeah, I I said six or seven I love Cooper cup and I just don't like that.
I mean I think it's them dirty, but I'm not saying that they're wrong I think it's a four or five. I think I'd be a four or five. I'm out of between three and four Okay, so he can go and help somebody odd that you think Cooper cup will be a Fantasy relevant wide receiver to next year. It's entirely depends on where he goes right now though Yeah, I think he would be good in New England.
No, no with Drake may. Yeah, I don't I don't love the offense. Don't be enough to go around What's the falcon you just posted a graphic? I think up on socials.
What is the other team that was mentioned with Cooper cup? Did you say Patriots Patriots Seattle Jack? Oh, yeah, yeah Yeah, good work man. Yeah, good work for that nice.
He spent most of the time finding the button I could say we switched him to another button and he was looking for the button the whole time Yeah, do you find the button could you answer there you go? Good work. Um, Seattle. What do you think about of those three destinations?
Put them in order of your favorite Jacksonville, New England, Seattle Do you have Seattle at the bottom? Yeah, I mean, obviously maybe Sam Donald is Leveled up and resurrected his career and is you know able to to be great? But I think this is a team that wants to get more to the defensive side more to running the ball And I don't usually view Sam darndald as I'll go see out. I'll go see out on the England Jacksonville.
You like Seattle the best I do Wow, I just don't think JSN has what it takes to full like brian tannas jr. He's it right and um, so cup is very two three in jaxville with the Trevor Lawrence that is Leading question mark, so I guess I just really cup would be like that would be his carolina The alien destination would be offered for target volume for target volume. Yeah, I lean jaxville at the top because I think he needs a brine thomas He needs him on the other side. Okay.
I think he needs and then Yeah, I'll go I'll go pats. I guess second for upside of the unknown like a drink may Jason we were talking on the footcast yesterday as well The fact that like sitting out there on the way right now way where on the on free agency cup Keenan digs and I was making the comment that like a team could They could go one year on all three of the guys and bring them in and you just you have a wide receiver room for a year Team like the the raiders don't have wide outs, right? It's like you could bring those three dudes in the arpe team Yeah, yeah, it would be I think you bring those three in because you're hoping you get about one and a half receivers But if you bring them all in one of them, what about the Giants with uh malleak neighbors on the other side if you like the brain Superstar seriously Right. Yeah, and maybe you're in rogers.
I don't yeah, that's a quarterback problem there. Oh my gosh rogers What is this guy doing whatever he wants? We'll talk about that in a second. We'll take a break We'll come back with some more news before the break you mentioned your frustration with Aaron rogers because you know We've got offers on the table from pit spurt.
It's been reported pit sprits made him an offer Uh, it seems like the Giants have made him an offer or are very interested and then you know He's not making a call and Adam chef comes out and he seems very there was a very funny video seems very frustrated with that mad Yeah, Adam chef. There if you've missed it. There's i'm sure you can find it But he's talking about and rogers making decision and Adam chef There seems personally attacked and personally frustrated that Aaron rogers has not made the decision I believe he compared I believe he compared making this call on his future haul as a quarterback to picking a lunch destination It's not their heart. He's like you just pick a place to go lunch.
I go I am in agreement. It is not that hard if you have an offer from the pit spurt stealers and the new york giants You go to the pit spurt stealers because you're 40 something years old and you have a year or two left You're not winning a super bowl with the Giants When if you're if you want to live in New York, yeah, but you have you're not winning a super ball in New York That still is It'll be really interesting if he does if you were to choose the Giants I think that says what his priority isn't you know who would pick teams like this is Kyle Like if Kyle was on the free agent market If he thought that all the like reporters. Oh, yeah, we're waiting for his information He'd be like I will hold back that information until you're upset Kyle is not here to defend it No, he's not but he knows it's true taking a shot anyways the Broncos They have signed their joke or tight end. Evan Ingram two-year deal just 30 years old Last year was a complete bust.
I mean just kind of a lost season hurt But a near record breaking season the year before we I'm excited about this. I I think Denver is right there. I mean, I love bonic I think this is a huge move for the offense. I think it Mike.
You said it yesterday. It frees them up to Be a focus on maybe running back or other positions in the draft where they had been rumored around the rookie tight ends They've been looking for a joker style tight end for a while somebody that can go out and be versatile and run routes and take screen passes and be a Red zone presence and I think engram does enough of those things and then their defense is getting stronger Weren't they the home of mr. Green law is a green law at Denver, brocco now? Yeah, and who fun got yeah, so a couple 49ers landing there As they you know kind of get rid of other players and so I think I think Denver is like one of my favorite playoff teams next they're gonna be fun I am most interested here Jason because we when we were talking about engram on Tuesday show You were pretty out on engram being a still being a fantasy tight ender.
You're good With a spot this is about as good of a destination as possible. I think maybe the Chargers would have been Slightly better than this for fantasy football, but you know they they don't have Um, you know outside of courtland Sutton. They they don't really have an established next target And shawn pateon wants to use a tight end more but he just hasn't had you know, he's had adam troughton who's not you know Watch it I'm about adam troughton. Um, sensational football player, but for fantasy.
This is really good I mean, you know, I would I would certainly rather have editing room next year than don't kick I was gonna ask it. Yeah, that one's easy. You're taking a late round selection saints re-signed juan jonson They're tight end to a three-year deal 30 million dollars. He's always been 21 guaranteed He's just always kind of sitting there as a um A player that has flashes but doesn't seem to be at the level you build an offense around so I think that's been figured out That's I think that's a fair thing to say.
I mean he was he was there either in receptions and he led the team in receiving yards Yeah, when that number's 548 you did tells you a lot about that offense. Yeah, juan jonson is I hope people was gonna go to denver because he I think that he is an exciting Uh player should he have got put it in the right position. He is Most people don't know who juan jonson is but he is a good player. I've got 21 guaranteed Uh to come back for the saints.
So fantasy wise though, it it could happen I would not rule it out because he's had stretches of games not just like a game here or there He's had stretches so he is on the radar as a punt draft option Man fantasy players need to understand that tight ends get a lot of money and sometimes they're not fantasy relevant sight ends I mean, dude Luke ferrell just got 20 million dollars from the 49ers You'd be like who's that and that's a fair thing to say but he was a jags tight end and that's what evan ingramos So he wasn't a fantasy relevant item, but they do a lot of work in the run blocking and and you know The versatility of a tight end gets paid for but the fantasy value of every tight end is very different Yeah, I mean, this is he's gonna be going into year six and this is with the same team in the same system He's never been relevant. Yeah, so he's a top-of-guy in 2022 irrelevant. Oh, yeah, he had Yards this that year smacks seven touchdowns smacks of a little Jay the morn under 10 points per day situation Rico down a mic One year. Yeah, it don't let your kids go out to be running back the answer signed Rico down a one year deal 2.75 base Encinitives up to six.
I mean, we're all gonna do that right But do you not gonna hit your incentives behind Chuba? This is not this isn't worst case scenario I will say that I was holding on hope that Rico could get a more of a time share job Or I mean a start if he goes if he goes back to the Cowboys, yeah, they're gonna get a rookie in there But it's like doubt will have some starts I would think Uh, but going to the Panthers Chuba just got paid this it too. This is Chuba's backfield. However In terms of high level insurance running backs to me Rico Dotto will be way up there because if Chuba goes down With the with the run scheme with the offensive line and with Rico Dotto is just the way that he runs I think this is a this is a sensational signing for the Carolina Panthers like Dotto would do work if he were given the job He is going to get paid a similar base salary as your vante Williams Which the Cowboys paid three million base, but the incentives are double so a lot of people to understand like yeah Like everyone's like, oh, why would you not resign doubt over such a vante?
There's so many variables Um doubt it might not have been as content to be there. Yeah, we don't know the behind the scenes stuff Yeah, if they've said hey, we're probably drafting a rookie and you're not gonna be in contention for a starting I mean, you don't know and it's double the incentive money And so yeah, Rico Dotto leaves town And um, I don't know probably Just a depth piece if you have talking dynasty if you have Chuba What are you willing to send over to try and get? Not much at all. I don't I think I think if Chuba goes down Rico is not a star here for the Panthers unless the offense, you know if if rice young Um, you know takes another step forward and becomes a great quarterback then it would be far more exciting But I don't be more excited but was great.
I would have been I think Chuba is great. Yes, exactly That's yeah, Rico. I would have preferred to stay in Dallas because then if the rookie doesn't work out Rico's pathway to those top 10 finishes is there I feel less confident with that in Carolina because they're not as good of an office But Carolina 9th and EPA per rush and yes Chuba's part of it But 7th in pro football focus run blocking grades for the other like this is an offensive line Rico last year was 9th in success rate for rushing He was one of five running backs to gain five or more yards on four over 40 percent of his rushing attempts Like I don't get the Rico slander. He was not he was not in elite.
He's not be John But not it but there's like four teams who have a pijon type running back I would say that his one-year contract with 2.75 million tells you what we think about Rico Dotto Yeah, yeah, we do not we it's not slander. It's the market Yeah, he's wanted Rico He would have gotten a deal. I mean, do you think he's better than Najee Harris? Uh, because he didn't get nearly the money that Najee got do you think he's better than Javante?
He didn't yes I didn't bring him back. I think he's for sure better than Javante So they they're not trying to be intentionally anti-reco we're being we're just telling you what he got paid and where he's going It's a one-year deal to be a backup. I also think you bring up a good point if you're in a dynasty league and you've got Chuba Draft season rookie draft season is coming up and and at during that time third rounders Oh, they will be so valuable because people will want whatever name is dropping in a draft They're not actually valuable. They're third round rookie picks.
So that's that's something I would trade for Rico to get my That's what I meant. Yeah, I'm like I'm on the gonna be on the side of if you're ensuring in dynasty ensuring Chuba is a smart thing to do And it will be cheap and if Rico if Juba goes down Rico will be a top 24 weekly type of a starter Panthers wide receiver Adam feeling will return in 2025 Wait for it Yeah, he is 34 right? I don't know Aaron Rogers officially released so he can go somewhere else after 49 million in dead money Dude 49 million in dead money. I love that.
I saw someone posting just the The reality that a couple years ago You had a quarterback play so bad that a team was willing to cut him and take on what was it? 60 million dead cap for Russell Wilson, right? And then the Steelers are like give me that and now now the Jets are paying 49 million in dead cap to get rid of Aaron Rogers and the Steelers are like Give it because they have Mason Rudolph. Yeah, the Steelers say they're scrambling.
They're dealing with uh, uh, the member that Colts, uh, Wince, Mount Ryan, Bill Rivers era The Ravens signed, uh, DeAndre Hopkins to a one-year deal DeAndre Uh, yeah, I don't care at all I did DeAndre Hopkins didn't matter in Kansas City and he's not gonna matter a year older in Baltimore at all Like this is a headline maker. This is cool. You got a veteran I mean who was it does brianth that went and played in Baltimore? Oh Baltimore is Baltimore soaks up all the hulio Did he play in Baltimore was he there?
I think he was from me. Oh, I mean obj was there Maybe it was obj I was thinking about yeah, maybe that's what I was thinking about um Yeah, this this is good. It makes sense for all parties DeAndre Hopkins. I don't think will be relevant for fantasy But this is good for actual ravens So I hulio did not play for Baltimore, but I did come across a 20 22 article in the off-season that was like Ravens top landing spot for hulio jones and t y Hilton So at this stage of the career when you're in the t y Hilton leaving indianapolis party of your career Baltimore's are you thinking of so yeah, des was there back.
I was there Steve smith was there for a couple years de jacks was there and uh, and quan. Yep, and quan spent some of his 30s in 32 you should call Baltimore And um, yeah So if you're 40 and a quarterback you should call Pittsburgh if you're 30 plus and a wide receiver called Baltimore in this division But yeah hopkins he probably have a couple games that he catches some touchdowns and it's some first downs and there you go The markets robinson 49ers picked up the markets robinson on a two-year deal from the rams I mean look probably starting wide receiver to mark is robinson. It's possible. Yeah, it makes sense I mean who else no de bow no i uke.
Yeah, pierce all in genings will be yeah, but while i uke is recovering robinson is going to be a starter as a wide receiver three yeah, um mac jones to your deal with the 49ers as they uh complete the The full circle of who were moving up to take mac jones just kidding is trilancers getting we're gonna get back jones too later like Just the Steelers. I don't know I don't think mac jones is an answer for anything But if you're just scrambling to get a starting quarterback who might be able to win a couple games for you Why do you look at mac jones? Why pay mason root off eight million? You could pay mac jones seven Well, I mean they're both backup quarterback contracts that you know and bringing back mason root off obviously this is a player They're familiar with they know how he is in the locker room and they obviously liked it because they chose to bring him back But you're right i'm gonna head because I they were back into a corner I just made some root off but mac jones being with the 49ers is it's so funny to me because there were all the rumors yes About like chanahan wanted mac jones that was who you know They actually moved up for and then and then changed and pivoted to trilance and now the fact that the 49ers signed mac jones Makes it go maybe they maybe they had regrets Well, they still have to I mean all these players leaving they've got to pay a quarterback now Yeah, they're burning the damn they got to pay Brock perdee or they have to I mean They don't technically have to pay him this year, right?
Correct. He's under contract and he's gonna be brutal Yeah, it says a lot to your team and future free agents and things like that The problem is the justification for paying Brock perdee is the deals that to uh Lawrence have gotten which are outrageous. Yeah, and so then you pay let me just play you pay him 55 million dollars Oh my goodness You pay Brock perdee that money you come out and you're retooling because you've lost eight to 10 players that are fundamental to your offense and you go 7 and 10 You think you're coming in you think x-offees and we're all feeling like Brock perdee's worth 55 million I think that just that will depend on how he plays it if they win fewer games, but Brock is playing well I think we'll give him some grace. They are still the highest Super Bowl odds for the division Um the 49ers post dropping all of their players.
They're just they're just taking the right Yeah, god go on the Rams That's that's actually really genuinely. I was shocked. Yeah You're saying uh not NFC, but just NFC well out of the west Well, I wouldn't have put Seattle in there and I wouldn't put Arizona in there So I guess it would have been between someone's gotta put the Rams in there Um, all right. We'll take a quick break.
We got some more signings to talk about things to debate The dealers signed Kenny gain well the cult signed cliel herbert the eagle signed aj dylan and the bills resigned tie johnson who Kept showing up in fantasy football towards the end of the year that run heavy offense any comments on those backup buddies I just nope. These are other. I mean, tie johnson's a guy that every once in a while if you're really desperate you can throw in there But there's other guys will be uh Probably insurance. I guess the kenny game will one is What is that?
What is this yours running back room gonna actually look like are they willing to turn over? Go back to the old tomlin system of one back with j-lorn. I don't I don't know that that's the case. So maybe kenny gain well Yeah, I also did you sign aj dylan and dylan did I get him?
You did sign a mic you can't quit these guys dude. You got it. You chilling? Uh, there's no chill.
This is always grind in the wire boys You know of all those backup um Jobs I would take a little herbert for fantasy Would be the one that I would be most interested in because like the tie johnson He's gonna be involved but that that's a three headed timeshare And you know, whereas I feel like in in the anapolis you've got john and taylor who has you know rich injury history He has very wealthy and so if he um, you know, if he missed his time That's that's a good spot for an insurance back kyle you check also meeting with the Steelers Uh, just so you know juice so you know juice with another uh opportunity potentially the We have some other signings mike williams. We're back. Baby. One year deal with the chargers He's only 30 feels like 40 gosh That's he feels like he retired four years ago It's it's a place, you know a quarterback.
He's familiar with right uh, we could get mike going back there You could do something yeah if they don't add another year irrelevant, uh post his um acl as well So that's good mbs one year deal with the seahawks cardinals resigns a john's dolphins nich wesbrukake Or you can go score a touchdown one pass a game Uh vans jaferson one year deal with the titans kajaz born to the commanders back to the commanders mariota back to the theaters This is this is what you were talking about my idea I just felt like i was loot like people were turning out the podcast as i read those names not a frenzy You know, this is the this is the light breeze. Yeah, also it smells like sewer breeze You know what i mean? This isn't like an ocean breeze where you're oh, yeah You're going to the black mushroom movie and they just keep playing the trailers Yeah, you're looking up and you're like who am i downwind up right now? Like looking at who's left yeah, let's talk about them because speculating them is more interesting They're still interesting names.
I mean, especially cooper cop. Yeah, keen and allen mari cooper which I that the problem with this list is They're interesting names because they have once upon a time were top tier NFL players and now is are they Anywhere close but like jk dobbins. I think his signing is still it will be interesting Nick chow. Yeah, Nick chow is very interesting to me and nick chub Can he ever make it back?
Probably not that's where that's probably not and these are the some of the reasons why these signings haven't happened Isn't that we're entering the tier of free agents where you might want to see what happens in the draft Or you might want to build a game playing around yeah, um, you know What are you gonna do like keen and allen probably doesn't want to go to camp That's a fair point. He might just chill and wait for someone to need him in the summer Is he in bulk's bulking season right now see back Did we have that last year? He was bulking up man. He had fat keen and allen Never was so worried if you if you like logged into a fantasy league that had shut down back in like 2019 And you log back in to see what your roster was it would say nick chub green hunt cooper cup Amari cooper keen and allen Russell wilson at quarterback.
These are the free agents left. It's the 2019 fantasy extravaganza So you know, I'm very I'm the most interested At seeing where cooper cup goes. Yeah, how wide receiver Um of these of these names But that's I mean, I'm not excited about I mean, maybe jk dobbins if it was a completely Like if jk dobbins goes to the giants. Okay.
Do you care? Is that a place you care? Are the raiders the raiders I do the raiders are you just or do you not care about either until the draft happens because they He just doesn't profile as as toting the rock the the fact that we are this far away from the opening Of free agency in the opening of the league year Uh, it is concerning for all those running backs of starting jobs seem There's very few available and I think these guys is gonna be wild. Yeah, yeah, I agree So uh, that is the remaining uh lowercase frenzy thank goodness for for the foot clan I flew back for this I told you yeah, I mean next year next year next week.
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