FCC Chair Brendan Carr on Drone Dominance, Wireless Security, and the Satellite Race

President Trump just returned from Beijing, where he and Xi Jinping spent two days hashing out a new phase in U.S.–China great power competition. A lot is up for negotiation, from AI chip sales to soybeans. But while the headlines focus on what each side is willing to give on, the Federal Communications Commission has been taking an aggressive line on national security—on drones, Wi-Fi routers, the foreign labs that test our electronics, and more. If you read the news a lot, you might think the FCC is mostly focused on disputes over broadcast television. But the agency is at the center of some of the most consequential issues in economic and national security policy right now. And it has been very busy.In the last 18 months, the FCC has cracked down on foreign-made drones and foreign-made Wi-Fi routers, moved to bar Chinese state-owned carriers from interconnecting with U.S. networks, worked with e-commerce sites to scrub millions of prohibited Chinese device listings off Amazon and eBay, kicked Chinese-controlled testing labs out of the American certification system, and greenlit more than $40 billion in wireless spectrum transactions that could reshape the mobile and satellite markets for the next decade.Step back, and a bigger question comes into focus: what kind of FCC has this become? For decades, the Republican vision of the FCC was mostly a deregulatory one—fewer rules, lighter touch, more reliance on markets. While Carr has done plenty of deregulation, he's also been willing to flex the agency's muscle to achieve specific priorities, from reshoring jobs and manufacturing to securing protections for wireless tower workers in merger contexts. Some of those actions run contrary to traditional libertarian and conservative notions of the role of government. Proponents call it a long-overdue correction to the Republican party's free market absolutism. Critics call it coercion and interference in the market. Either way, it is a real shift and one of the things we discuss on today's show.Evan is joined by FCC Chairman Brendan Carr to talk about drones, Wi-Fi routers, and the broader national security agenda; the recent EchoStar / AT&T / SpaceX spectrum transactions and what they mean for the emerging direct-to-device satellite market; the wireless tower workforce commitments that have become a signature of his merger reviews; and the issues he sees on the agency's horizon.Evan worked for Brendan Carr when he was a Commissioner at the FCC during the first Trump administration.