"Fear and pain are the same... they are both cry-for-help", with Isabel Benatar, on Chronic Pain Recovery, TMS (tension myositis syndrome), Fear and Pain, and Liberation.

Isabel Benatar is a certified Chronic Pain Recovery Practitioner. In this educational and thought-provoking conversation, Zhou learns about TMS - tension myositis syndrome, the stages of pain management, the connections between fear and pain, as well as our own journeys toward liberation. Follow Isabel's work: https://www.isabelbenatar.com/ https://www.instagram.com/chronicpainrecovery/ Books mentioned: Healing Back Pain by John E. Sarno When Things Fall Apart by Pema Chödrön Unlearn Your Pain by Howard Schubiner and Michael Betzold